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There is a huge peace that comes with discovering that you are not in control. These days I'm walking around with a constant mild smile in my face.. Observing the show and completely seeing it for what it is.

@Sam Johnson how do you expect "other people" to exist outside of your imagination when you yourself don't exist outside of your imagination?. In reality there is neither "you" nor "other people". These are just nothingness misidentifying with a stream of thoughts and appearances creating out of them an illusion of "person" and "people" as solid entities when there aren't such things . The problem is you are assuming an experiencer on top of experience.. When there is nothing but experience alone. On my end as in your end. There is actually no two persons communicating right now. That's a thought which in not the actuality of THIS. Only being is real. There isn't a single "person "in reality. I know this sounds insane and it is.. It is absolutely true tho.

Precisely because it's nothing. The nothing that you think is not actual nothing.. And that's why you think you can "get it". The nothing that I'm pointing to is not the nothing that you think you can get. For it's not a nothing.. It's nothing!

@Joker_Theory the identification with the body will come and go. The watcher must forget that it's just the watcher and become diffused with the body. That way the body can survive. The body needs the watcher to survive. The watcher doesn't need the body. But even when there is an appearance of identifying with the body.. You never actually cease being your ultimate true nature.

There is no difference between anything. There is nothing but nothing. Stop trying to get it using the mind. Sit down and become perfectly still. And the rest will take care of itself.

The true Self is always in control. The false self is not since its not even real. Nothing is in control. And that nothing is YOU.

Actual nothingness is not your concept about it. I can't explain it to you and you can't understand it. You either experience this or not.

Thanks. It happened as An experience not as a theory. I had the theoretical foundation for a long time but here it became my permanent living experience. I can describe it as a clear seeing that I'm not this body.. mind and world. And have absolutely nothing to do with it. It's just a passing movie and my true nature is the watcher. A silent detached watcher forever. Imagine that you start viewing your body as not your body (not you) just like how you view other people's bodies as having nothing to do with who you are. That's what I'm experiencing.

Sit down and meditate.. And find out what is actual. No. .It's just that the intellect must be dropped to realize what I'm saying. The mind has to be still. As long as you are on "yeah but this yeah but that" mode you won't get it.

LOL it's not philosophy or intellect. When you transcend all philosophies and the mind.. You naturally discover this.

@justfortoday yes you are saying the same thing but using a different terminology.

So I've been going through what I would call a radical identification awakening. As a result of intense meditation sessions and self-inquiry. The seperate sense of self and doership is completely collapsing.. The veil has completely broken and I'm aware that I'm not the ego.. Who thinks it's doing stuff. I'm not the body or mind. Or the world. The body is seen as the world.. Not me. A complete understanding has occurred that I'm pure present. At the center. What's surrounding the center is none of my business. The body mind and the world. It will unfold naturally as it's always done. But I as pure present nothingness is just a vessel for it. None of it is in my control. This point about control is very important.. Because it leads to the discovery that you are not who you think you are. You think you are separate entity. You are a specific thing. You think you are the doer. You're not. When thoughts arise.. You are not thinking them. When the body moves internally or externally.. You are not moving it. You have as much control over your body as you have over my body.. Zero. If you raise your hand.. You are not doing It. This is important because that means you are not the body.. And you are not the seperate self who is in control. So what are you?

@Nahm ??

Happened during meditation session. Trying to identify what you are from what you are not. And becomes crystal clear that whatever is arising is not who you are. For you are the emptiness that everything arises inside of it. So whatever thought perception sensations arise.. They come and go.. You remain ever present. As nothing.

You are not the doer.

Said the intellect.

@Javfly33 thanks dude.

Ofcourse you don't.

Intellect is making Distinctions and shoulds. As always. Nothing wrong with it btw but it won't get you here.

This is not a philosophy or a belief. You become conscious of it as being the ultimate truth. Only thing that exists is nothingness. And that is me. Period. Ofcourse it's not possible to get it intellectually. Because the intellect is what's working a full time job to prevent this realization. You need to destroy the intellect.

The "you" and "me" That you are referring to here are the bodies. The body is not who you or me are. What you are is nothingness. So am I. Therefore we are identical. The relative domain is made of infinite dualities that are actually unified and one. So there is literally no difference between your cat.. You.. And me. All equally nothing.

Your consciousness? Lol. you ARE Conciousness. Not an owner of it.

There is only one thing that needs zen.. And that is YOU. you are not talking to me and pointing out gaps in my communication.. You are talking to yourself and pointing out gaps in your own understanding.

There is nothing wrong with anything. And ofcourse that means even thinking that there is something wrong.. Is not wrong.

Thanks. Meditate daily. Practice self - inquiry daily. Ramana maharshi method.. Asking who am I? .. Answers will come up.. "I'm this body I'm that guy I'm this thought etc".. Notice that you are not that because these are temporary appearances that comes and goes but you are ever present. And keep subtracting. Also read the collection of Robert Adam's satsangs.. I've post it on the high consciousness resource section. It's very helpful.