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@r0ckyreed alright then.. Go pass the highway without turning right or left.. Remember When you don't see the cars.. They are just imagination ?

Yes how exactly do I induce this state? I can't just fake it.. It won't work.. Is there a method or something that I can do to induce it?

@Forestluv OK so what exactly am I unaware of? Precisely in this topic at hand about the nature of how knowledge works. In highlight to my responses in the first page. I'm not sure what is your objection exactly. ?You are saying my perspective is limited and partial. And I told you yes it is. So is your perspective. And everyone else. My statement of "I fully understand oneness" seems annoying to you for some reason. I'm not gonna waste time trying to show you how I understand it. Feel absolutely free to say that I don't understand yet. No problem at all.

@Keyhole so how I go about it? Should I actually do something that makes me almost dead (obviously I can't do that) or do you mean just to pretend that I'm dying?

@Dodo LOL chill out bro.. I feel ya.. I feel ya Sounds extreme to me.

@Dodo seriously are you trolling at this point? Why so freaking annoying bruh..im about to have a mystical experience and become enlightened from the level of patience that is necessary to argue with you at this point lol.....

So why you seek so hard to make me not seek this freaking mystical experience? Why don't you just breathe a little and let what is just be(which is me seeking the Mystical experience) ? ?

I guess I know better what has been revealed to me and what hasn't. You are confusing things. What you call "the ego" is the sensation of" I'm a separate entity inside this body perhaps somewhere behind the eyes.".. Is that sense there? Yes sometimes. So its true as long as it is there. Yet other times like when you are let's say so immersed watching your favorite TV show.. That sense is not there.. So it's not true at that moment. There is no true experience and false experience. If there is an experience it's a true experience. If there isn't.. There isn't.

A thought. An experience. A sensation behind the eyes somewhere. Does that make the ego true or false? Or maybe it's true and false considering that this sensation comes and goes?. And so whatever Is present is true. If it's not presently experienced it's false.

@Forestluv you are right. There is always more to get. Just offering my perspective on the subject. That's one way to look at it. There is infinite more ways ofcourse. BUT they are all at the level of concept.. At the level of direct experience the three grains of sand are all of reality at the moment that you are holding them. There is indeed infinite more grains of sand... Only as concepts.. Until you experience them directly. ?

It's not possible to experience falsehood.

@Dodo check this chick out.. I don't feel like rambling all day.. She says it better than I can ever say it anyways.

LOL you have to do it this way right? ? I guess you are wrong then (you didn't explain your position anyways you just said go contemplate it) . You tell me who is it that knows and where is the boundaries between the knower and the known? What I'm saying is there is only absolute knowledge which is direct being itself. There is no knowing via duality or a medium of separation. That's what nonduality entails. That's absolute knowledge that cannot be false because it's direct. If we assume separation then all sorts of "how do you REALLY know" nonsense questions start arising which are just based on false assumptions. Aye

Again this is a teaching.. A teaching is for separation.. For duality.. For the ego. When ONENESS is recognized.. All that becomes laughable. There is nothing that should be done. Who would do it? There is no one. Separate. This whole selfish vs selfless thing.. I don't buy it. They go together. It's not bad or good to be selfish or to be selfless.

Well as I said there is two ways of looking at it.. Relatively speaking if we agree there is a knower and a known.. There is knowledge through the senses..and through logical facilities . That's all nice in the relative world. How exactly does that work I have no idea. It's the same thing for everything else.. I could say it's a pure irreducible miracle that anything works at all. I have a grown nondual understanding also.. And I fully understand that reality is ONE thing.. From this perspective knowing is illusory because it's a distinction. There is only being. And nah I'm not just parroting this stuff. I'm fully getting it. ?

@Dodo first of all you have to understand.. You are not here on this earth to live the life of ramana maharshi.. That was his life.. His way of relating to existence.... You are here to live your life.. Your way of relating to existence...why should you listen to what ramana said and follow it? How do you know he is not full of shit? What makes ramana's teaching better in any way than the teachings of a prostitute?

How? The way i see it knowledge is illusory. From the absolute perspective. Who knows what? If everything is ONE.. Who would be standing outside of everything to know it? Knowing should ultimately collapse into being.

There is two levels of truth.. Conceptual truths and ultimate truth. Conceptual truths are always partial and relative statements. Any truth that you can put into words is not absolutely true.. If you say everything is one.. That also means everything is infinite.. Is two.. Is three.. all a matter of perspective. Conceptual oneness doesn't make sense without the concept of manyness. What is one without not-one? So ultimately all conceptual insights are not ultimately true and can't be. They might be conditionally true tho. So all insights are half true and half fantasy. Then you have the ultimate truth itself which is not anything you can say or think or figure out. And This is it.

Then you didn't fully grasp that ramana maharshi stuff that I taught you ?... Let me adjust something for ya......... You can't go "wrong".. You are the eternal Self.. You are God regardless of what you do.. What you think.. Whether you are satisfied with your experience.. Not satisfied.. Or in between. The ultimate teaching is there is no teaching. A teaching of any kind is still in the realm of duality.. It assumes a you that is outside of everything that can or should do a specific one thing.. One right thing.. And all other options are false . That's what you are preaching recently. Now you are entering the realm of dogma..of religion. Of right vs wrong. Of this the way and whoever doesn't follow it is an evil sinner. Consider this.... There is nothing outside of everything that needs a teaching or a one right formula. You are a drop in the ocean bro.. One with the ocean..Everything is the Self unfolding in a perfect eternal harmony. Which means you are free and safe.. and you can't ever get it wrong.. because wrong does not exist except inside your skull. . You go on teaching people to stop chasing experiences and recognize that they are already the Self.. Without recognizing that this very chasing of experiences is itself the Self. ?

@Dodo "Dudo" look... All this Ramana maharshi stuff that I taught you I know very well There is no contradiction between what you're saying and chasing after a mystical experience.. Or any kind of peak experience for that matter.its not like you should give up everything to be a mature spiritual person.. Let me ask you this.. Do you care about eating good food? Why so? Just be the changeless Self beyond the space-time bruh?.. Don't chase after tasty food... Don't marry.. Don't buy nice clothes etc..... How do you like that? ?

Breaking news.. The universe might end this very second..that's a fact. You can't prove that everything won't just disappear boom gone this very second. No you can't. You want to believe it can't. But it most certainly can. What the fuck is holding everything together anyways?.. Just a creepy thought. Pulling it out of my stuffy subconscious. And be sure you can find thousands of such creepy thoughts. When you understand this you might want to consider to let go of a lot of bullshit that you think you know.

Thanks. Nice list.

No worries. Although it's not against the forum rules if we did it outside the forum lol. Will check it out. Thanks.

If you still think there is a "should" or a one right way or another that you gotta or can install to direct the river of life.. You haven't Self-realized yet. If you are realized you would know it's all just happening spontaneously. There is no secret forumla or magical teaching to how you should live your life or how things should go. Things just go. Before Self-realization you are under the illusion that you are driving the boat.. After Self-realization you realize that you are just laying on a piece of wood floating on the middle of a fast river. To go with the flow is still a teaching that implies a duality. There is no other possibility than to go with the flow. After Self-realization there is no action step. It just can't be explained. You become one with everything and merge with the happening of life without interference or trying to impose your own ideas of what should happen and what should not. Before Self-realization there is life and a question about what to do in life. After Self-realization there is just life.

Anything you can't see hear touch smell taste right now is a fairy tale.