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Very good question. I think here is the crux of the matter. What does it mean to say that something exists? From the video Leo literally said "to exist is to appear". In other words to have a phenomenal quality that you can.. see touch.. smell.. taste.. hear right now. If you can't access it right now it literally does not "exist". That means if you are not directly perceiving Paris or London or Madrid or New York right now.. They don't exist. But see the absurdity and the circulation here. You already assumed that to exist is to appear and then you negated the existence of whatever that isn't appearing right now. Simply because it's not appearing right now. Ofcourse that is true by the definition. But who told you your definition is true? That to appear is to exist? You don't know what you don't know DUH? If stuff exist outside of appearance you can't confirm their appearance-independent existence from within the domain of appearances. It's a lack in your end because you're stuck in your perceptions. A lack on your end isn't conclusive of what is supposed to exist outside of your limitations. Isn't that obvious?

What does your ability to understand my words have to do with whether we are dependent on each other or not for our existence? The key point is this.. The fact that appearances disappear immediately with the disappearance of one's consciousness has absolutely nothing to to do with whether these appearance have a deeper layer of existence. " Just because I don't see it when I don't see it.. That means it's only there when I see it" ?. there Is absolutely nothing in this logical building that is conclusive. Or valid.

Chop wood and carry water

@Nahm nah my intention is not to debunk someone for the sake of getting a "kick" out it . I only care about what's true. Nothing against Leo personally he is my role mode lol l. Also people have really different orientations. Just like how Sexual orientations are different. also what you care about in general. If you care about how you feel primarily . I care about existential understanding. Some people couldn't care less about it. To each his own I guess. And this diversity is here to teach us humility and open-mindedness. No serious conflicts. Just discussing.. Sharing.. Expanding perspectives.. Growth. For everyone ?

In the span of 5 months? Sounds too long. Loa is not time-efficient. I can change my eye's color 10 times in the span of 15 minutes. Lenses>loa

@Nahm thanks All beautiful.. "understood" and appreciated. The reason I made this thread (and a lot about the same topic in the past). Because I really Believe Leo got something wrong with this "appearances" metaphysics. It's confusing you can see a lot here preach this solipsism mentality. Leo thinks "where have you ever encountered anything underneath appearances"? ... And I'm like But Leo why do you need to encounter it to know it's real? The whole point is that if there is something underneath appearances you can't find it as an appearance!! ?‍♂️. Anyways screw this is just me lol. Have a nice day too bro.

Got you. You agree with me. But how can "God" be wrong? ? Jk alrighty. Lol

@Nahm Dude I love you cuz you are woke af.. I respect you too.. Cuz you're mod ?... But what are you adding to this thread with just flirting with seeking_brilliance and throwing cold comments ??

@electroBeam https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Gold-Understanding-Psychological-Projection-ebook/dp/B01H7INFEU

@electroBeam some aspects of myself ?

@electroBeam lol isn't that my reply on your post? so you just came here to revenge lmao

@electroBeam look this isn't rocket science.. There is a communication between two persons right now (me and you).. From your pov and /or from my pov.. for this communication to make sense.. me and you are assuming that on the other side there is a sentient being receiving the message... And my sentience is independent from your sentience. What Leo is saying is that my sentient is literally dependent on your sentient. In other words when you go to sleep tonight.. I and the rest of the universe will literally cease to exist. We were just projections of your own mind.... It must follow that there is no point talking with mere images in your mind. To a dream characters. Watch the video. This is only resolved if you accept the existence of a second layer of reality. If you don't it's straightforward solipsism.

Tell that to Leo.

@Adamq8 I'm not going to accept wishy washy handwavey cute answers.. This is a serious question that is a direct consequence of this view. There is nothing outside of consciousness = I have no reality of my own outside of an appearance in your mind. I'm not a sentient being. I'm just a dead image on your screen. ===>why the fuck are you talking to me? Do you go about your day talking to the trees?

OK if that's true can you answer the question that Leo didn't answer (for whatever reason). If everyone is my Dream why should I talk to them? You see the implications of this view is directly solipsism. That other people are just appearances. They are not sentient. Only me is sentient. Or you from your POV. In other words there is no difference between people and rocks. So why should I talk to rocks?

@electroBeam the path starts and ends right here.

From reading your recent threads you are just confusing the hell of yourself with all these "insights". And well get ready to completely lose your mind if you don't wise up and become conscious of the infinite mindfuck that is this. Be sure the insights are infinte because we are dealing with an infinite reality here. You can let go of chasing that "one final insight" that is going to set you home for good. Unless you fully grasp that you don't know jack shit about Jack shit (Which you seemed to grasp slightly) .. There is no hope for you. Because "knowing" is fundamentally an illusion of duality. There is nothing to know. And no one to know it. Knowing is a misperception of being. Knowing is made of being. In the same way your entire thread is just a bunch of English letters on a screen. That's being. The meaning all meaning is secondary imaginary. Aka bullshit.

Hahaha? ??

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I watched your video. So basically to sum up you're saying the human =the atoms. Not that a human is made of atoms. In the same way consciousness is all the layers.. Not that consciousness is made of different layers. Is that what you're saying?

Life is fucked up. It eats itself. Kill or die. Deal with it.

Time is an illusion. No year is coming and year is passing. If there is an end it will be Now. But see NOW doesn't end because it doesn't start. P.S don't confuse the NOW with the content of the NOW.

Woke AF bro ?

@Nahm No dude lol its just that I don't bother too much replying if the person didn't bother too much being clear as possible about what he is talking about ? That's a dead end answer. It can and it can't. Lol. Even the poor Al has no clue.

And why is that a problem? You don't know that. Maybe it's not a problem. Maybe that's how it should be. Or maybe you don't know anything except for this one thing?

@Someone here @Leo Gura to me these are the most important questions. You can skip over them but you must explain that especially the first question to consider your view correctly. Because seriously if you are just a ghost in my mind.. Why am I talking to you? Or anyone for that matter? I don't know why you occasionally insult your followers or anyone who doesn't agree with you. There was a thread about your cocky attitudes sometimes. You promised you will work on that. Cuz such statements are completely unnecessary and not helpful in any way at all your claim is it literally disappears when you are not seeing it. You mean the moon literally ceases to exist in every possible sense at the moment it is not perceived because being perceived is what existence is in your opinion. The fact that is reapears again when you look again seems less compatible with that claim. It should be more likely to not find the moon again when you look again since it literally dissappeared from existence when you stopped looking. So why and how did it appear again? If you say it's not the same moon.. This is true in a sense obviously its a new moment and a new appearance.. But you can't say it's a totally new moon.. If that's true you couldn't be able to make sense of anything in your life if that's how it works. It will be impossible to make sense of the world.