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@abrakamowse lol you don't have to take it too harsh. I'm clearly just spraying being humorous so it appears more interesting.

@Gesundheit I am you. Stop outsmarting yourself and enlighten up.

Spin away. Spin away. He is giving you the exact correct answer to the question. Reality is a mindfuck. The only way to not get mindfucked when reality is a mindfuck is to delude yourself. You can do that. But then you won't get truth. Cuz turh is the end of everything you think you know. If you think you know how are you going to know? You must not know so that you can know. And both are identical.

Right.

@Gesundheit no it seems there conflict of interests. I'm interested in truth. Direct truth. Like what is true? Stop fucking around what is true? Spot it find it goddammit its right here. You on the other side are interested in endless mind games and speculation. That's all cute but it won't lead you to truth.

Mundane sure. You have zero clue where did this mundane come from and what is it. You are not seeing it for the supreme that it is because if you did that you will die.

It's obvious. It's so obvious that you don't want to believe it. This is God. This is reality. This is truth.

Man ofcourse is polygamous. I mean males. You want to sleep with all the women in the universe that's your secret desire as a man. Eating the same lunch every day gets boring. Females just want that perfect dream guy and they can't understand what does it mean to love two persons simultaneously. True love that is which is ofcourse is completely outside of the male paradigm. So they go against each other. So society will never be fully polygamous nor monogamous.

@Chimera how you are God? Well you are this human being let's start here. Now where did you come from? I mean you gotta wonder. From your mom's body. And she came from her mom and so forth. Now I don't need to describe all the details go back to evolution or the big bang or whatever its basically all the universe Morphing and transforming from one form into another. Having sex with itself and giving birth to itself. Now please can we get way with the apparent boundaries? Let's say everything is one it's all interconnected. Now this one existence is there anything beyond it ? No because even if there is.. it's still it. So it's one. Infinite. And self sustained. Eternal. Didn't come from anywhere. Nothing beyond it. And it's the only thing that there is. And what is all that? It is you. Seems like you are God pretty much.

Hahaha wtf where do you pull that stuff from? ? I can only guess how "done" you are with it all lol.

@Nahm thank you for taking a step back and reconsidering that I am not you and I live in a different universe than you. Most people struggle to see this when it's so obvious. Much love.

Yes ofcourse your post belongs here. That's why mods didn't remove it. And here you are getting your answer from me.

@Nahm we all know what meditation is let's not play games. Whatever it is under your terms.. Like it or not it's just one activity and whatever happens to you during this activity no matter how satisfying or insightful (whatever) is obviously is and isn't the end of the game. That is when it's relative to you or to me or someone like electroBeam. I'm just asking you to appreciate that. The guy writes essays of deep contemplation and you just toss it away by "go meditate". In a way it is disrespectful. And it's completely false that meditation is the answer to everything. Obviously.

I'm not here to tell you what's OK and what's not. Lol I'm saying you are going to a bar and wondering why there so much sluts there...well that's what a bar is. This subforum is for discussing esoteric religion (mysticism) spirituality metaphysics etc. Also new age stuff and Jesus stuff. Read it up there in the description. I know most people think this stuff is just mental jerkoff. But for other people it's even better than actual jerkoff. So get used to it.

Can't be done I guess. Or maybe I will disappear after I meditate only. I meditate daily btw. I can't believe you are stuck on meditation and you think it's the end all be all. Meditation won't help me even with how to brush my teeth let alone to understand reality. Now that's a different perspective. You think understanding is all just a waste of time which is ofcourse true and not true. So let's not try to have a monopoly on what's important or how (what method) to achieve it. @electroBeam can't get rid of your tag lol.

That's not esoteric religious language. The esoteric Christian will say that you are the way. The christ I am the way which means you are the way. What you said is the stage blue literal interpretation of the bible. Which is not what people discuss here.

Keep dreaming. Your very same reference to these things as not happening is the very same evidence of there happening. If they are not.. How are you referring to them? @electroBeam good shit bro.

Not not at all. It is what it is and it isn't what it isn't. But also it isn't what it is and it is what it isn't. Because there is and there isn't any is or isn't. How is that of showing the absurdity of language and logic ? So contradiction is just a language game. "absolute have levels is a contradiction" this is just a word game. There is always something beyond anything. Isn't that obvious? But what is beyond wholeness? Can't have that cause we defined it as wholeness. But what wholeness IS.. Is forever and forever and forever. So there is no contradiction if you get it.

He who knows doesn't speak. He who speaks doesn't know.

I'm not projecting I'm trying to help you brother. Alright I'm being overly sarcastic and pedantic maybe that's not the way. But the juice of what I'm saying is you are making an issue out of a non issue. Everyone is fed up with drama and having to show up every day and fake everything we do but do you got a better plan? Just screw it all and go homeless? Nah doesn't sound nice either

I already did. The message is for you lol. It's not that you never think "oh I shouldn't say" you will probably do to maintain your integrity in society if you care about that at least. But I'm speaking about seeing though it that everything you "should" do you don't really "should" do lol.

He shouldn't do it. Remove this should bullshit from your vocabulary and then live your life and notice how all your proplems will disappear.

Exactly. So why he is imposing that he "shouldn't" engage in drama any more? What value is in not engaging in drama than to engage? But he thinks he "should" not engage. If he just let it unfold sometimes you engage sometimes you don't depending also on your mood. You are not the same person all the time keep that in mind. So he might leave his family now cuz that's his current mood and then regret it later when his not so awake any more. Anyways I delivered my point. Take it or leave it. Peace out.

I'm aware. He thinks that he should obey a certain way of behaving and only then he is a good boy and being true to myself. And I'm saying not at all you shouldn't behave any ways in particular. That's the social programming. That's the conceptual matrix of "should" vs shouldn't. Right vs wrong that he claims to break free from yet he seems stuck at "being true to myself". It has validity within the social norm. But let's not forget it's just a fabrication. Imagine how would you behave if you were the only person on earth? Now compare that to how you behave right now among people and notice the mangtitude of your bullshido to maintain your self image.

@Carl-Richard it's beyond your level of comprehending. I'm pointing out the bullshido of everything we say. Most people are not aware how they are creating their own suffering by imagining that "being true to myself" has any meaning whatsoever. I challenge you to give me any possible meaning of this. Lmao. Flip it upside down turn left right it's just hogwash.