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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude ,look ..What you call “ sense perceptions ” is just the conscious awareness of the body. Conscious awareness only perceives through the senses of that body. There is only one Consciousness and all bodies are in it and not other than it. Just like when dreaming at night, a dream character has its point of view due to its senses…and yet the entirety of the dream is you and there is no one else there. If the dream is about being chased down an alley, it is you chasing yourself…there is no one else there. Each body has its own sensory awareness and conscious awareness, but it is all of one Consciousness. -
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Great stuff .thanks for sharing .This is akin and reminded me about the measurement problem in quantum physics. You can't measure the state of a system without disturbing the system. More accurately, whenever you measure a system, you are merging with it, to create a hybrid system. You can't disentangle the observer from the observed. It's all tangled up in itself lol -
Someone here replied to Hanna Luna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But I'm God cosplaying as a human ..this "human perspective " is the only perspective there is . So if I'm God and I'm the only one that exists..then I will definitely have to face my infinitude and taste every single goddam thing ever ...who else is there but me to experience that ? Exactly. So are you making a distinction between actual infinity and potential infinity ? Like..there is probably infinite potential to God's capability of dreaming ..but the question is will every single possibility be actualized? Thanks .that brings up some clarity. -
Someone here replied to Hanna Luna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What kind of pain ?what exactly are you referring to? -
Someone here replied to Hanna Luna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Leo, does that mean that somewhere sometime in this eternity we are stuck in ,there will be an indescribable suffering and pain ? Because I can think of these possibilities that she mentioned..imagine being burned alive for 10,000 years without taking a nanosecond off or without dying ...is that an inevitable part of Absolutel Infinity ? if the answer is yes then this destroys my whole life .how can i be a sane functional person if I already knew that ? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no way to disprove solipsism, because anything that is non- contradictory is logically possible. So unless there is a contradiction in solipsism, it's possible that only you exist. For the same reason, it is also possible that the “Simulation Hypothesis” is true, or that we are all “ brains in a vat” (Hillary Putnam's update of Descartes' “evil demon”), or that we are all in a teacup about to be drunk. Logical possibility is one thing, but judgments of probability/plausibility will, of course, differ. I don't know how would you go about proving an external world. You are projecting the idea that what you are experiencing right now has a deeper independent reality to it. Which you call the external objective world. You Believe the world exists when you are not perceiving it. recognize it’s a more of convoluted belief system that requires extra mind baggage that careful and direct study of experience and reality does not need. In fact.. if you studied your direct experience long enough you’d notice all sensory perception has no solidity to it at all.. it’s just a fluid.. spacious.. fluctuating field of is-ness popping into and out of a void. the “objective” reality science thinks is out there is quite literally impossible if they knew what they were actually studying, which is perception. The thoughts that think there’s an objective layer are also popping into and out of this void. This requires an extremely stable...mindful concentration of what is really happening vs what your mind thinks is happening. Again all this is off topic. I want someone to explain to me why am I me and not you ? I provided my explanation. Do you agree or disagree with it ?and why ?and what is your take ? Are you consious of the brain ,or are you brain of conscious ?? Which is first order and which is secondary? Which is actual and which is conceptual? Thousands of years have passed and science can't solve the mind-body problem. Because they are coming at it from the materialist paradigm. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think you are really conflating cessation with nirvana or liberation . Although this is taking us away from the original issue in this thread (why am I me and not you?). In Buddhism , Nirvana is the extinction of emotional defilements. Cessation is the disappearance of all sensory perception when going deep into meditation. . But extinction of sensation is not realisation of YOUR TRUE SELF. Actually in Buddhism THERE IS NO ANY KIND OF TRUE SELF ANYWHERE TO BE FOUND . So are you aware of that? -
Don't worry ..I know why I'm taking these medications and I knew about their side effects before taking them . I take them because they are necessary for my condition. I suffered from depression, mood swings, anxiety, panic attacks and felt like I was losing my goddam mind . 2021 was pure hell for me . And now I'm finally healed thanks to these medications. Also I'm pretty sure Invega and Zyprexa are SSRI’S. I'm on both because my situation was severe . I was so miserab,I was suicidal. So the 3 types of SSRI’S were mandatory. But thanks for your gentle reminder.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Correct .but remember that this was just an analogy . In our case here with consciousness..there is not the equivalent of "radio station" that is displaying the radio waves . Consciousness doesn't arise from the brain or from atoms or any physical substratum ..consciousness IS the substratum. I can't really convince you that what you're conscious of right now is the only thing that exists (aka solipsism). Just Sit down and look at your hands for hundreds of hours until you realize that this hand is all that exists . The problem is you already know this ...but the mind comes up with constant stories and conceptual overlay that contextualise the present moment. For example you believe that you're in a house right now ..in a country ..in a planet ..In a solar system..in a galaxy..in a universe etc . None of that is actually true .there is nothing outside the walls of your house .until you decide to move out .just like in a video game. The frames appear only when yon enter them . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sorry i didn't see your previous post . Well,"cessation " in Buddhism has a very specific and concrete definition..unlike what @Carl-Richard suggests. Its the passig away of all sensory experience until all you are left with is a void . And this is actually a very distinct thing than ego death and Samadhi. And it requires incredible degrees of mindfulness and you gotta go really deep in meditation before you manage to stop even your thoughts and emotions. Actually...it's not that these STOP, but that they stop controlling you. Thoughts, emotions, feeling and perception never stop while we have a functioning brain … they are part of the human condition. What Buddhists learn to do is to relax and not be pushed around by those things .. to reside in full and open awareness of the moment instead. Which is very difficult because all our HABITS are to be constantly distracting outselves FROM the qualities of this moment, and sometimes that includes dwelling in the past or hoping tomorrow will be better. Anyways ..to get back to the original topic of this thread ..what is your explanation that you see from your eyes and not mine ? Why are you ,you ? And not me ? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No .they are not the same thing. this is a mistake, a mistake based on misunderstanding.dependent arising, and the word nirodha (mistranslated as “cessation”), and in general misunderstanding the way the Buddha taught the rhetorical methods. Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about . I studied Buddhism for years and I know the difference between terms such as "enlightenment ","cessation ","samadhi ","shunyata "etc. Cessation of perception and feeling is described as one of the meditative attainments in Buddhism, the one leading to liberation. However, not all Buddhist monks anddescribed in the suttas experienced this meditative state, indicating that it’s not something needed for liberation. Cessation in brief is to introduce a meditative state called Jhana and from there on build into a state where the perception (notion) of the body is not present anymore. The mind is fully occupied with ‘mental’ work which will shut down all notions of sense impressions which includes bodily sensations. Also false. That's duality .consciousness is sense perceptions. You are carving out that distinction based on what exactly?..there is only one substance out of which all of reality is made ..and that is consciousness/perceptions/awareness/ being ..etc call it whatever you want. Anyways..I want to get back to the original topic of this thread because we've been losing track of the original question. I explained why I see from my eyes and yours because I'm the only conscious being in existence at the moment. And you are me in a different timeline. That's my explanation. What's yours ? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes . I understood what you said. You asked if the world still exists when we are not perceiving it ...and I told you no .it ceases to exist if you are not perceiving it . When you wake up from a dream ..you don't assume that the characters in your dream were conscious or exist outside of your mind. Why is that ? Can you answer this question? Consciousness is a field that all beings are connected to, like a receiver is connected to airwaves. What we recieve and are aware of depends upon our perceptual apparatus. Just like a radio .. It could be AM, FM, TV, Microwave etc..so if your consciousness is not displaying for you Japan or China at this precise moment..then China and Japan literally don't exist right now ,anywhere. Except as a thought . It's obvious..if you take away sight ..the visual field disappears. If you take away hearing ..the adutory field disappears and so forth. So what happens if we stripped all sense perceptions? The answer is rather simple but quite radical at the same time ..simply the entire world will disappear. Because it was not an object. It was a perception. An image in consciousness. Just like a TV ..if you switch it off ..the whole movie disappears. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes the world ceases to exist if you are not perceiving it via any medium. If you see a full bottle of water..then that's what exists. A full bottle of water. If you see half a bottle of water then that's what fucking exists ..half a bottle. Reality is precisely what you are consciousness of fully at any given moment .the mistake is you are imagining an external objective world that is the underlying source of perceptions/consciousness. But go ahead and prove to me ..if a tree falls in the woods and there is no one around to hear it ..does it make a sound ? And for whom ? A blind person loses only visual perceptions. So the visual field doesn't exist for a blind person. But If he moves around ..he may hit the walls of the room..touch things ..smell and taste things etc ...because now his consciousness has been reduced to only that . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Cessation is ALL of that ? What a Flexible definition. Because these things you mentioned are not the same thing . Ego death is when your sense of self dissolves . Samadhi is when you experience oneness with everything. There is no comparison to an alteration of relative reality with an awareness of ultimate reality. Consciousness is purely subjective and that is the main reason why humans have a hard time seeing its true nature as all pervasive. In fact consciousness is not a substance but it is a concept. It is a concept that points at wakefulness which is basically perceptions namely, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, feeling and thinking. What you conflated as "sense perceptions ". Consciousness cannot be separated from perceptions. In deep sleep, there is no time, no space, no cosmos, no observer and no consciousness but just silence and stillness and LIFE in a state of deep peace and un-manifest POTENTIAL. This deep sleep is the ground state and all the other known states of existence namely, wakefulness, dreams, swoon, coma, death, NDE, OBE, hypnotic states, yogic trances and altered states of consciousness induced by drugs, come and go in the ground state of deep sleep. Now the million dollar question is “Who or what is it that actually sees, hears, smells, tastes, feels and thinks?”. Very few humans can come up with a meaningful answer to this most fundamental question. Do you have an answer to that question? -
OK I apologise. Didn't know it will come off as that . @Leo Gura please lock this thread .
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I'm talking about 9s and 10s ..those women who make you open your mouth like an idiot and you dream of making out with them . I'm talking about those absolutely stunning glamorous women who are the dream of every man.... anyone in this forum have dated or had sex with such women? If so please confirm and I will follow up with a question. Thanks
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why it's the hardest? Have you been to America before ? I heard that you have to have a consistent job or studying in one of US universities to get the licence..but I'm not sure . Anyways I'm doing my research these days and will see what will happen . Going to to America is one of my greatest dreams. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And how should I know who's from India here? Do you suggest to make a survey (open a thread asking if any Indian fella are here ..show yourself). I think it's a good idea -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There might not be "separate " self in reality .I will grant you that . But there is infinite SELF or Self with a Capital S. And that is everything that exists . You believe that the universe exists ,right ? Now let me ask you a simple tricky question..where does the universe exist ? Do you exist inside the universe or does the universe exist inside you ? If you pay attention you will notice that the entire universe takes place within your consciousness. Including your body and what we call the external world..they both exist within consciousness. Evident by if you close your eyes the universe will be gone temporarily. And if you fall asleep, the whole universe collapses . So it's clear that everything is a figment of your consciousness. I didn't find any strong counterpoint against this line of reasoning. But if you disagree..please go ahead and explain to me where I'm incorrect. Much love too ❤. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No I'm not making excuses. If I had access to psychedelics I would definitely use them . But I looked and its just prohibited in all Indian cities. Even Street drugs in India, especially synthetics are always of dubious authenticity. I only have one option : buying online and getting them delivered if possible. Otherwise the only place i have a slight chance of getting something nice is Delhi or Bangalore. I looked in Mumbai ..and its absolute shit 99% of the time. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Firstly, I hear that term mentioned a lot in the forum. the term “cessation.” I am personally very skeptical about the use of this term because it is not a scientific term and bears a very vague definition of itself. What is the cessation? Well, in terms of neuroscience, perhaps our minds are our cognitions or streams of consciousness, but even these terms are not defined in a quantitative sense either, so it’s really difficult to know what we’re talking about when one brings up this discussion of “cessation.” From a philosophical standpoint(which I think is the necessary one in this situation) it is likely that you are afraid of the philosophical implications of solipsism . You are simply denying it from an emotional standpoint and not from a rational standpoint. Because from a rational standpoint it is more obvious than obvious that your direct experience I'd the only thing that exists. analyze your situation. You are likely afraid that you are the only existent being within a universe that only exists within your mind, as this is the technical definition of solipsism. First, you know that you exist because you have conscious awareness of your thoughts and have logically considered what it means for other people not to exist. So we can surely agree that you exist, based on this logic. Solipsism is the only worldview that makes sense. The reason people don’t believe it is that we can infer nothing useful from it. It’s a one-stop deadend. -
OK I'm almost spamming the forum with my posts..I promise this will be the last one for today ?..but I just noticed a decline in the quality of the posts on this subforum recently..so i thought why not elevate the quality a little bit . So recently as I said many times I'm experiencing insane levels of happiness and satisfaction with my life .I shared some of the reasons already. So I don't want to repeat myself. But here I want to talk about my meditation habit .I meditate 1 hour everyday in the morning. I just simply watch the blank space between thoughts. And that's it . That's all it takes to calm down your monkey mind chatter and relax and enjoy the present moment. Because that's all there is to do in life . I mean imagine you have so much free time ..what the fuck are you gonna do with your life? Yes you can try this and that ..but at the end of it all you will be back to baseline and bored. So all that is left is to just bask in being and chill out on nothing. When you feel your life is nothing but noise, you create some spaces in between so it becomes music. When you have been driving and driving, it is good to take a break and stretch your legs, to relax. To balance your incessant doing with some not-doing. It is like taking a rest on the beach, taking in the scene of the vast ocean rather than to always be fighting with the waves. The best reason to meditate is to have no reason at all. Why do you need one? It is true that a beginner always needs to be convinced by the way of some reason. It may work in the beginning, but any reason is too narrow and your mind can come up with as many as it likes. But meditation is more like an adventure, it is more about getting used to facing the unexpectedness of life than having a specific reason to be on one.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Who is the happiest man in the world ?? I claim that meditation is the very first thing you gotta do to get out of depression and sadness and anxiety. I cured my anxiety using a simple meditation technique (watching the space between thoughts) and since then I'm preaching about it on the forums . The reason it works is because when you are caught up in anxiety you're overthinking about the past and the future. And meditation blocks your thoughts from racing into the past and the future and makes you grounded in the present moment. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Then why are you not having it? (If it's not too personal for you to answer). -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You DO see from my eyes. "I" am you in the body called "me." "You" are me in the body here called "you." We are each other. All of humanity is each other. All of life is each other. We perceive "you" and "me" as separate individuals because we equate ourselves with our consciousness and consciousness-as-experienced is individualized. consider.. When a single cell splits into 2 cells, which cell is the original cell and which is the "new" cell? Think about the 10 trillion cells that make up your body. Which one of those is the original fertilized egg, the original "you"?