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Yeah but .. The imaginary world has imaginary rules ..if an imaginary body gets hit by an imaginary bus ..the imaginary body will die an imaginary death..to then return to the imaginary source..the source of imaginary things .

@Davino I have reached levels of awakening that there are no words to describe them. @AerisVahnEphelia no .

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I wish for the day that I will be able to understand a single coherent sentence from you ..😅 That's what I said I'm OP. The complete surrender is death . Not mentally masturbating on a spiritual forum and call it surrender. Only with TOTAL surrender is when full enlightenment happen..and that is by death .

I don't understand.

1) is there any relationship between sleep ability..and easiness to drift off quickly into unconsciousness.. and age ? Because the more I grow up I notice its difficult for me to fall asleep . Take Babies..they fall sleep in a matter of few minutes after resting their heads on the pillow. While adults struggle with insomnia and everyone is sleep-deprived . What's the connection here ? 2) is it possible to sleep without dreams completely? These days I've been very vivid dreams . And i hate vivid dreams because they make me question my entire existence lol. So how can I have 8 hours of deep sleep without going through the REM phase which induces dreams .? And is that possible? I had a conversation with Nahm before and he told me he sleeps without dreams since his awakening.

@Princess Arabia the dream analogy might have some explanatory power here : As long as you are in the dream..then you are not awake. Its obvious right? To be fully awake is to wake up completely from the dream into the real world . Are you following? So within the dream there are degrees of lucidity. But there ain't full awakening inside the dream . Doest make sense . Inside the dream there are only degrees of lucidity. Leo Is more lucid than me or you . But he is not "fully " awake because he is still here on planet earth In the dream matrix. Do you get it ?

I think it means the same thing . These Sufi sages call it also being "drunk " (metaphorically speaking ) in the beloved. Its the same thing . The devi (ego) submits to god whether willingly or forced to. BTW I'm very fascinated by Islam and the Qur’an. I think this spiritual tradition is so underrated. Unfortunately rarely do people here talk about it . Thanks man . You are a polite person .

There is a threshold of woke territory ..when you become fully conscious that you are absolutely alone in existence. There is no people who are awake or not . Only you..either aware of what I said or not . And time is a persistent illusion as per Einstein motto.

Just like how you know you are dreaming while you are a dreaming in a lucid dream.

Something to contemplate.

@Osaid fair enough. Im not mentally masturbating. Im using intellectual contemplating to arrive at trutth because i have no other method..no psychedelics no nothing btw .. I think being willing to ask stupid questions with a childlike curiosity is what leads you to some of the most satisfying unexpected answers. And ultimately to enlightenment. Which reveals you have no clue what enlightenment is . Because in all spiritual literature in the entire fucking history of mankind it is said that enlightenment is the dissolving of the "I" which claims to be enlightened. Its also up to you to answer this question or not : WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

What should I ask you ?

Have you experienced that ?

Why did you sleep 38 hrs? How is that even possible? Didn't it backfire at you and actually became an annoying experience? Too much sleep will force you to be alert .. Because for me if I sleep more than 16 hours my body starts aching ... Anyways..that's something pretty out there man..I hope anyone here can help you with this . My only advice is force yourself to wake the fuck up early . Good luck !

@DefinitelyNotARobot do you consider this a mystical experience or spiritual experience? Also ..a question..do you consider this experience positive or negative ? I've had crazy dreams before . And I discovered at least two of the main causes of nightmares ...: 1-overeating before bed . Actually try it .try sleeping on an empty stomach..and notice you will sleep lighter and deeper 2-too much sleep. Yup .the more hours you sleep you get to see all kinds of weird ass dreams. Better to sleep from 4-6 hours a day before getting into REM phase.

"the unlimited cannot be understood since understanding is something that occurs within it. awakening is becoming limitless, and the need to know or understand is greed that grabs and creates limits. This is what creates psychosis and problems. the total break does not create problems, it is perfect". @Breakingthewall

You are so fooling yourself. Stop dancing around with these poetic descriptions of what reality is . If you think God doesn't exist you are clearly stuck on a very shallow dead end with this new age spiritual hippy bs. Yeah you can sit on armchair and spout your atheistic philosophy when you are happy and healthy ..but just wait for the dark night of the soul.. The inevitable suffering that you MUST face at some point in your life . Hell..even something as trivial and silly as diarrhea can make pray for all the gods in existence. Humble yourself. God Is watching your nonsensical denials of him .

Because there is God's creation and it is under its control and not a single atom moves against its will.

I didn't say God created itself. Think about this ..when you dream at night..aren't you simultaneously the creator of the dream AND the whole dream ?

First of all ...If you are fully aware of this present moment you will know it's impossible that God doesn't exist. because God is not separated from creation.. God's fingerprints are present in every moment of creation. If you can see it you can see him. But you cant see him directly without dying ..yes because God is infinite.. There is no place for both YOU and HIM to be .. He takes all the place.. If he is to be present.. "You" have to leave first. Defining God is impossible because God is infinite .so it includes all the definitions I could come up with for eternity. It's THAT level of bizarre and absurd.

😎 cool

Love ya too . But you didn't answer the question.

@James123 and do you know who you are ? Please answer with complete honesty and after deep reflection..because from reading your posts ..your understanding seems a little bit limited and shallow 🙂