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Not all, but some of the people here are defending Leo in a way, where he will always above criticism. He could do any bad behavior and the same surface level defense and logic could be applied every time by them : "Oh this is the higher counsciousness thing to do", or "maybe it is necessary for him to do these things" and other brain rot things like that and then they could never elaborate why those things are necessary or how him behaving that way is a net benefit. The other thing people who are in that cult mindset missing here is that, yes their advice about "just leave if it doesn't resonate with you, or if you don't like his behaviour" is good and fine if you are talking to a person 1 on 1, but that doesn't address any of the criticisms made about Leo. Leo being a content creator and a teacher and the leader of this forum put him in a category where (because he has so much influence, and leverage over people ) he has to take more responsibility for how he behaves and what he says. Because of power the difference, different standards have to be applied. Also, it would be cool, if the blind defenders would actually engage with the criticism and not take the focus off from the things that are actually being targeted and talked about.

@ivankiss I agree. Guys are dumb for not being clear about what they want from the girl and some of these girls are actually taking advantage of these guys by exploiting their weakness and constantly giving them mixed signals and edging them.

People always adapt to things. If you start to earn 5 million dollards a month after some month it will become the new norm for you and you won't get excited about it anymore and you will start to notice the holes and limitations that comes with "only" earning that much money. Being grateful for something can only work if you deliberately practice it or if you have alternative perspective(s) about the thing you are being grateful for. Lacking alternative (harder or more negative )experience(s) and perspective(s) often leads to us being ungrateful, but thats nothing new.

Thats some super elite level shit. You could have probably easily won in multiple powerlifting competitions. That level of strength compared to your bodyweight is insane. My proudest moment was, when I finished doing 1k pullups under about 4 hours, the other one was when I did 2k+ pushups in like 2 hours (both time weighting around 73kg/about 160lbs).

Are there actually laws that would prevent a women from doing those things (this is a genuine question, not a rhetorical one) or it is more about all the negative effects of incredibly harsh and strong judgements and social pressure coming from that society? If its the latter, then I would say that, I don't want to downplay social pressure, because thats a really strong force for sure, but I would personally rather get judged than to stay in a toxic relationship ( but i can totally understand why others would rather stay in that relationship, especially if the social pressure is incredibly harsh and especially if you get indoctrinated very heavily with certain worldviews and social norms )

its really fucking hard to balance things out and there is no perfect system. You have to think of these things from multiple povs, because If you want to make it even much more strict (make it so that much more and harder evidence is required to prove rape) then even more people will get away with rape. You have to sue for defamation, and thats how it needs to be, because the alternative ends up with a much worse system. - If you would want to make a system where if women can't perfectly prove rape, then they should immediately get charged with false rape, then the only thing you will achieve is that almost no women will report any rape (even in current times, rape is considered one of the most underreported crimes). Its not easy to prove rape. If we would live in a society where women wouldn't be slut shamed, then they wouldn't need to play these games and much less misunderstanding would happen, but unfortunately we are still very far away from that world.

One other option could be to move to one of your friends. If you don't have such friends,then more socializing could be very beneficial for you because 1) you don't need to stay home with your mother during the time you are out, 2) you can meet new people who could potentially shower you with certain opportunities (lets be it a part time work opportunity, or a cheap place where you could live, or you could meet with your future husband). So you can either go hard on socializing and/or on dating or you could work a part time job.

@Michael569 Dude, your consistent high quality contribution to this forum is greatly appreciated! ?

I think gesundheit's advice is good here, because I don't think you can actually solve these issues with narcissistic people, because these are not even disagreements, these are more like her narcissistic, fragile ego acting out in a very impulsive way. Rational arguments with impulsive people are not really productive, they need to feel that they are being understood and heard, because if they feel, that they are being dismissed, ignored, then they will probably get even more annoying and childish and impulsive. The impression that I got from your post is that she really wants to feel that she is in control of everything all the time, so if you can make her feel like she is actually in control ( even though in reality she isn't, but you just make her feel that way ), then she probably won't bother you as much. The other feeling that I got from your post is that it is not likely that you can talk about your boundaries with her, so even trying to have that conversation might just end up in more fighting with her. So what are your options? Well, follow what @Gesundheit2 said, the only thing I would add to it is that you will probably need to let go of certain things during your time staying home with her (if you want to and are okay with it). You probably know by experience what are the things (that you do) that are triggering her the most intesively and most frequently. Its about how you want balance these things out (how much control and personal agency you are willing to let go in order to trigger her less often) . If you feel like you are willing to argue and fight and not let go of control and certain things and you are okay with actually arguing, then do that, if you feel that you are really not in fight mode and you just want more peace, then you should let go of certain things for a random period of time. The other thing that might be helpful (especially if the previous advice doesn't work) is that you can try to avoid her as much as possible (or in other words, create programs and make up a bunch of reasons and excuses so you don't have to spend much time with her). Try to go out as much as possible. The final advice here is (what others already suggested) to try to move out as quickly as possible. The worst thing here is that you don't have any leverage in that relationship, she can almost do whatever she wants, because she knows that right now you can't move out. You need to find ways and do whatever it takes to build up your leverage and ultimately thats the best way to resolve or to make more tolerable this particular issue .

31/36 Would you say, that this test is not a good measure for psychosis and is only reliable for measuring autism?

@at_anchor You could use certain subreddits and ask your questions there for sources, and in instances when you get stuck somewhere. For example for math: If you get stuck this subreddit might be able to help you https://www.reddit.com/r/learnmath/ For physics : https://www.reddit.com/r/PhysicsStudents/

I used to be able to bench (220 lbs/100kg) for 5 reps when I trained frequently and hard.

100%. @Emerald Don't waste your time with this guy (@mr_engineer), the conversation with him won't be productive. He was probably traumatized by a feminist in the past (that he constantly associates with all feminists now), and because of that he can't have a normal, productive, introspective conversation about this subject. This is not meant to be a condescending post, this meant to be a post about how important it is to properly heal ourselves from traumas, because it blocks healthy engagement and healthy conversations about topics that are directly related to our trauma(s). I am starting to learn more and more now, that sometimes disagreements and counter arguments have nothing to do with actual disagreements ( and have nothing to do with genuinely holding certain positions ), and more to do with unconscious , unresolved baggage , traumas.

That stirling cooper guy didn't give the full context about those chat logs.

Thats sounds like an implication that porn (not just deepfake porn, but regular porn) can't be done in an ethical way. Do you actually believe in that? If you really want to establish an argument here, you would have to argue how one person watching porn contributes to how much objectification and how much exploitation of women (assuming you have your own threshold , because there is a lot of stuff that somewhat contributes to the exploitation and objectification of women). How much money does a person generate to the porn industry by sometimes watching porn (but never paying any money for it) and by the generation of that money, how much of that is directly contributing to how much exploitation and objectification of women? Thats more than likely will change in the future.

https://ocw.mit.edu/ ( I don't really know how much beginner source you will find here, but you might) https://openstax.org/subjects/math You might be able to use youtube for your learning , if you search for playlists not just for videos. So for instance here is what you will get if you type in "beginner math" and only filter for playlists: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=beginner+math&sp=EgIQAw%3D%3D

Whats your overall point with this thread? You are throwing around a lot of different kind of arguments and topics.

it felt like that the variable of happiness was used and was just a proxy to demonstrate that a conservative relationship is often times higher quality than a progressive/stage green relationship. Its easy to maintain a relationship, if you only need to focus on a few variables. I think if you have a scenario where more variables are at play and they can still maintain their relationship , now thats impressive, because there is a much higher bar there. The problem is again if you have no or one partner before your ideal partner is that you have no perspective about whats a good or a bad relationship. I don't think you could exclude or ignore that point when it comes to making your point about less partners will directly contribute to more happiness (I would be interested how you would build up that point or how you would refute my point). My problem with this is that to actually make this point you would have to imply that being ignorant is actually a good thing, but is it? For example if there is a scale of happiness from 1-100 and there is a conservative person who is only familiar with happiness at the level of 10 and thinks thats the highest, do you think thats actually trumps a stage green person with more experience who has a happiness level of 25 who is aware that his/her relationship could still be much better? One other things that could skew the numbers is that when it comes to conservative marriage, they are probably much more likely to have kids ( and kids often times correlated with having meaning in your life ). Having kids and only or highly focusing on the kids (while ignoring all other relationship problems) is phenomena that happens very often, especially among conservative people. So it would be interesting to see a comparison between conservative and progressive marriages where they only take into account marriages where they have kids or where they only take into account scenarios where neither of them have kids. One other study that would be interesting to see ( I don't know how one would conduct this study ), where they would somehow measure how honest conservative vs progessive people are about their lifes and specifically about their relationships, specifically regarding to happiness. Arguments here could be made why there are probably more dynamics at play to incentivise stage blue people to lie more. Every study regarding this relationship happiness issue, that was brough up so far has to assume that everyone is 100% honest with their reporting. How do you know that for sure,from the studies that you linked? Its not impossible to imagine that they would consciously or unconsciously lie about it, when the optics about their relationship is probably one of the most important thing to them in order to maintain their image and place in their community. Who do you think have more to lose, a couple who is not in a community or a couple who is constantly monitored by a community and has to hit certain standards in that community all the time? Some people here talking about traumas is also an interesting one, when we know that when it comes to stage green thats where people start to get more open about themselves and start to go to a therapist and actually starting their healing journey and start to get honest. Now, directly not saying or talking about your traumas when you are stage blue does not mean at all that you are okay or that you have no trumas at all. In fact often times the the complete opposite is the case. We know that shaming is one of the biggest tools often times used by stage blue people to socially push and navigate and punish their own people. One other tactic stage blue people effectively use is to repress things. Shame + repression are the two biggest tools highly collerated with stage blue, so to say that they have a highground when it comes to traumas I think is a flawed point.

You absolutely are. If you wouldn't be looking at it from an ideologically driven view, then you wouldn't have given an extremely biased analysis and take that is only in favour of stage blue and is against stage green at the same time. All your points so far could be made by a regular conservative stage blue guy. You claimed to be stage yellow multiple times now in this thread, which is hilarious because no stage yellow would try to virtue signal that "I am stage yellow guys, I hope you see that, do you guys see that, I am stage yellow, hey guys don't forget, that I am stage yellow, right guys? I hope you all agree", also its hilarious, because your whole analysis on this topic is to boil down all complexity to one variable and to one party, how is that tier 2? Show us where is you tier 2 analysis , show us how could your analysis be differentiated from a simple stage orange analysis that is filled with biases that are against and resistant to stage green? You haven't made any arguments or points yet, you just stated your conclusions without making any backing arguments for your conclusions. You said you know the "stats" and "facts but you haven't brought any stats yet. You seem to not understand that throwing stats around without knowing the context doesn't mean anything and you have demonstrated that multiple times now. You seem to also not understand that a stat is not = to a study where people who know how to contextualize statistical numbers will create a hypothesis from those numbers not just a random joe like you who think he can just conflate correlation with causation and can just imagine a causal chain between the numbers to get his biased conclusion without any rigorousity. You had nothing to refute or to say about the points I made about potential negative things that could come up in marriage, with a super young conservative girl. Its interesting that now you talk about tinder, when earlier in this thread you said ,that you want to find a marriage material who could be the mother of your future child. Why the hell would anyone want to search for a serious relationship on tinder? Do you really think that using tinder you will find a really conservative stage blue girl? This "point" of yours is equivalent to saying "I went to a strip bar, I saw a lof of slutty women, therefore all or most women are slutty". Why would you correlate all toxic and slutty women who are on tinder with only stage green women? If you are selecting from a group of people that are statistically much more likely to look for only casual sex, then you shouldn't be surprised when you get a women "who is dicked up" to use your insecure terms. The other interesting thing is that while you claim to be yellow, you throw the label "toxic" around like a tier 1 person would, not realising that things that could be considered toxic for some could be a + in the bag for others (another point indiciating that you are just stage orange, with biases against green). Also its interesting that this discussion now has to be about green vs blue, when there is much more nuance that could be talked about, if you wouldn't be so focused on SD and on giving incredibly biased takes.

?????, Boiling down a problem to one party and one variable --> "tier 2 analysis" at its finest again. Also implying as if staying in a marriage is always the better choice. Says the guy who only want to date stage blue women and excludes all possible stage green relationships because there are some toxic stage green women. Is this really stage yellow at its peak? Because thats really dissapointing. Im gonna keep mocking you until you realise that using SD as a dick measuring tool or as a tool to be condescending towards others in not the right way.

The new bing chat is powered by ChatGPT, but you can do more things with it compared to the regular ChatGPT.

Saying that sounds strange after you sourced multiple studies to sell a point, and you actually made multiple arguments in favour of conservatives (when it comes to marriage) and by that making it sound like thats the preferable path for a person if he/she will want to get married down the road. You used those studies to strengthen your point further(because you thought that they are reliable) and now it seems that you don't care anymore or you want to abandon those studies. If you agree with my conclusion then talking about other variables isn't relevant, it is only relevant if you disagree. If you actually disagree, then please elaborate.

Your saying about "from 25-30 women don't develop personality" is false. OP's orginial implication was that he preferably want a really young girl, because then he won't need to work through her trauma. That could even mean a 18 year old girl. People probably gain more variety exp in their 20s and maybe in their early 30s than anything that comes after that. Most people from their early or middle 30s to their 70-80s don't experience that much new things and their life just on a complete repeat (the same exp over and over again). People in their 20s don't know shit about themselves, most of them not even sure what they want to do with their life, most people in their 20s don't have more than 2 serious relationship behind their back (most of them only have 1 or 0 ) , people in their 20s changing their philosophy about life and about themselves a lot. So the idea that a 20-25 year old women won't change that much is a silly notion in my opinion. @Devin You have to be very careful just reading study conclusions without actually taking a look at sample size or what they did take and what they didn't take into account. 1) For example conservative people tend to have much less relationships, therefore they have a much more narrow perspective on what a quality relationship looks like and what they even like or don't like. Lets go with a super conservative scenario where the girl don't even have a relationship before they get married to her guy, what do you think how much outlook that girl will have about the notion of "quality or high value man". She won't be able to compare her relationship / marriage to anything else and this problem alone can skew the numbers in the conservatives favour (because I have looked at your studies there isn't that much of a gap between the two) 2) Conservative people obviously have a different valuesystem where most highly conservative women will find a marriage a good relationship if the kid is being taken care of. In a conservative relationship the only big thing a man needs to hit is to provide resources and thats it, the conservative women don't have almost any big standards. Just that alone that conservative women have a much lower standard for a relationship could have a big effect on these numbers. Those are just 2 things, but more could be mentioned.