The observer

Heaven is as real as hell. Pun intended.

People don't understand how powerful the illusion is. When there is suffering, good luck convincing yourself that it is love. People naively assume that if they're not suffering right now that suffering doesn't exist. But are they blind? Do they not go out and interact with others? They don't need to go too far, there's suffering everywhere. I guess that's what's most problematic about the internet, is that it distances you from the suffering of others and how real it is that you can arrogantly recite some silly spiritual lines to show others that you are special and knowledgeable. It's easiest to sit behind a screen in your comfortable armchair, plug 5-Meo, and philosophise about love when you don't actually have real challenges in your life. You say that God created this as a gift to you, you narcissist. Stop being a baby, and be a man. Go out and start interacting with others. Show us how loving you are. Prove your love. Put it to the test. Be true to your word. Everyone can talk, but not everyone can walk. Be God, as you say. You don't have to heal the sick, or give sight to the blind. But just put yourself out there, in a real human way, not the electronic imposter you are. Be like Jesus. Are you willing to give your life for humanity as you claim? Love is a huge word that you don't even deserve to utter. You don't know how sacred it is. How can you forgive them sinners when you are hiding? How can you love them when you live alone? You only love yourself. Narcissus. And to add more silliness on top of yours, you can't even put up with these imaginary humans that you interact with from distance. I can only imagine how poorly you would handle it in face to face. If you don't suffer right now, then be grateful. You're just lucky. Not everyone is lucky. You don't deserve to receive love because you're corrupt and not helping. But who am I to tell reality how it should be? I'm even more corrupt than you and most people, perhaps even the most corrupt and evil one. But there's always a higher wisdom behind all these seemingly stupid things. That's one of life's greatest lessons. You're just new to the field. You are a fish, lacking in experience. You believe in myths. Naive. Overheat.

It's not, and even if it was, it doesn't mean it's wrong.

@Leo Gura Imbecile: noun 1 a rude way to describe a person that you think is very stupid Thanks Leo. At least, I'm learning new rude/offensive words to avoid using since that's not allowed here according to the guidelines. But hey, that's your place and you can be rude as much as you want. Name calling is love. But truth demonstrating is not. I see. Have a good day..

@Nak Khid Don't bother dude. It's denial taken to its extreme. https://www.simplypsychology.org/defense-mechanisms.html "Denial is a defense mechanism proposed by Anna Freud which involves a refusal to accept reality, thus blocking external events from awareness. If a situation is just too much to handle, the person may respond by refusing to perceive it or by denying that it exist."

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Is that right? Or wrong? I could also say that everything you think about fear is wrong and will always be wrong. In fact, that could apply to anything. Simply put; The map is not the territory. I thought we're done with that long ago. The word 'love' is a map. The territory is not at all identical to it. And in fact, it's quite commonly opposed to love, as it must be. At this point, I am pretty sure that this is just semantics. What you must realise though is that you're confusing a lot of people, unnecessarily so.

So does this mean that imagining differences/being trapped is not love? Whether yes or no, it does not matter. That would still be a difference, hence disproving love theory.

Don't worry about awakening. Worry about delusion. Even if what you're saying is true, then you should be more concerned about being deluded than about being awake. The problem here is of triple risk. The first is that you think you've got it. The second is that you don't get it. And the third is that you're spreading your delusion while convinced that it's not. Open your mind. You ain't awake. Awakening does not mean closed-mindedness. It doesn't have to do with finding the answers and arriving at conclusions. Awakening means infinity. There's no endpoint to it. Whatever answers you have today, tomorrow might bring you the opposite. Use your mind bro, please, for once.

Yes. The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao.

I wouldn't be talking if it was. And that exactly is the illusion that I'm trying to explain. It's the same as the egg-chicken problem. What comes prior? What's more fundamental? Love or the absence of love? The answer is both and/or neither, i.e. cannot be understood by the mind. And, in other words, is uncommunicable. People desperately want love to be the fundamental particle of reality, and I'm one of them. But as disappointing it may feel for most, that's not how it is. When someone says reality is love, that's a good indicator for you to know that that person is exhausted and now is healing. And healing is love. It seems like love and it feels like love. But that's about it. That healing cannot go forever. It will stop at some point, when that person is ready to continue. The conclusion that everything is love comes in the form of projection and bias. I've fallen into that trap myself, so I'm not superior. I'm just a human being with human expectations. When you remove your wisdom tooth, that relief sure feels like love. But look how easily you forget the pain and suffering. On a global scale, it seems like the whole world is healing. So, that makes the trap even more sneakier. For that reason, and as a conclusion, we'd assume that the world is made of love. But the world is simply healing from centuries of pain and misery. We tend to forget, and we take love for granted. The cycle will repeat, after healing, there will be abuse. And after abuse, there will be healing. Contraction vs. Expansion. And all this confusion will repeat as well. That's the nature of reality. You don't know until you know. And no matter how you try, there will always be something that you don't know. Sure. Even my words have no importance whatsoever, because truth is always truth regardless of what I say. It's not affected by my words or understanding. So, it doesn't actually matter what I think reality is. Whether I have the right or wrong understanding does not mean anything, and that's still part of truth. But anyway, since I have the freedom and knowledge and experience to talk about it, why not? Everyone is doing it after all, so why can't I?

@SamueLSD Maybe I am using wrong words, I'm not originally English. But yes, I have experienced that same metaphysical love. It was no ordinary bliss. Bliss is my current state for most of the time. And definitely, the reason why it doesn't happen for you is because of trying to make it happen. It's extremely paradoxical. It occurs when you let go of it, and the more you let go, the deeper it gets. But there's a limit to that. Afterwards, you're going to hit a wall and not want to go any further. You wouldn't want it anymore, because you'd be full of it. You'd feel completely healed. That's when you know you're ready to reconstruct again. It's a process of construction and deconstruction for infinity. And the trap here is to attach to either of the dynamics. You can't hold your breath forever.

Yes. There is a huge trap here. The love you experienced was due to the absence of the ego, that's true. But your conclusion is false. The absence of ego permanently is not love. It's the process of fading away that feels like love. The same way you would call an inhalation after deep exhalation/keeping your breath for a long time love. There is a relief, a healing, and a sense of expansion. Of course you'd call it love and nothing else. Because you were lacking in love, and then you opened the doors for it, it flooded. That doesn't mean everything is love. It means you can't have love without its contrast. When you let go of the ego, you feel free, temporarily. And then the ego starts to reform itself again. It then starts to build tension, and then you release it again, and you feel the love. That process gets repeated for infinity, and throughout everything. There is no stopping it. You can't have love without letting go. Letting go means having/holding on to something and then losing/releasing it. To have love, you must lose something in return. Nothing comes for free, and you can't keep losing forever. So, love cannot be absolute/the substance of reality, because it is temporary. It only exists in duality. And for the record, I'm speaking from experience. I've experienced an extended ego-death over the period of nearly 8 months. Beside many, many little ego-deaths after that. Yes, that felt like love. Especially the first, longest, and deepest one. It was extremely intense, I would cry from ecstasy multiple times a day. I would watch the sunset and melt from love. My peripheral eyesight had become much clearer, like viewing life in HD. There was literally no one behind the eyes. I thought it would never end. Yet, the ego would always return and fear would accumulate over and over again until I release it. The first one happened after years of suffering. Depression, anxiety, fear of death, neurosis, attachment, OCD, delusions, sleep paralysis, nightmares, night terrors, and some other things that I can't recall.

Yes I am the controller. Bwahahahaha The controller is infinity. Or, in other words, duality. Movement requires space and time. But it all happens without a person. Just like how magnets get attracted to steel, or vice-versa. It's attraction. In both ways, closer and away. Love and fear.

How did you come to this conclusion? I see, all difference is imaginary. Without difference, there is only one. But how come one is love? That I don't agree with. Here I am asking you with an open-mind. Don't just tell me that I'm not awake or that I need to plug 5-Meo.

There's no because. Do whatever you want. You're absolutely free. Isn't that beautiful?

LMAO. So, now you're using consensus as proof of objectivity?

Science cannot explain reality. However, we already have the ultimate explanation of psychedelics: Delusion. And with delusion, I mean a mere shift in the state of consciousness, which means absolutely nothing except whatever meaning you give to it.

@Leo Gura Like you're the one who's come up with this whole awakening thing. As far as I know, the concept was invented long before you were even born. I guess in the future, we're gonna require an official certificate from you. Otherwise, we ain't awake. Of course, no one's awake, even the Buddha, Jesus, Ralston, Sadhguru, Ramana, Krishna, and basically everyone else that disagrees with you. Only you. We're all evil devils. And you're the merciful God that's still putting up with our devilry, because you're all loving. I wonder why you would silence us then? Sounds like your creation sucks. You preach open-mindedness, and yet you seem like the most dogmatic and projecting one of all of us.

You might as well kiss his feet. LMFAO. LMAO. You got it backwards.

Lol sorry for that ??? I mean I know I'm stupid but not enough to take even your words for granted. No problem though. Somehow, and with your help, I've got the answer I needed. Or, at least, some clarity. I trust your wisdom. So, the damage is done hahaha. Posting here, cuz, house rules ??

Wow! It seems like you have a coherent story for the paradigm you're using. I would investigate; What is here? What is there? What is direct experience? What is existence? What is truth? What is delusion? What is non-existence? Direct experience is not existence. That's just a thought. I'm going to flip your paradigm upside down; Notice the trick: Now if you want to imagine/think that there is some thing called direct experience here, you can. But notice that is not truth. The thought about direct experience is TRUTH. But you imagining that thought actually means something and that direct experience is actually existing right here is complete delusion.

@Javfly33 So, is your direct experience not imaginary? How do you know? What's the difference between existence and imagination? After all, all distinctions are imaginary. Right?

Says who? Have you (ego) ever directly experienced that? How do you know that truth (God) does not exist outside your perception (ego)?