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I'm naturally very skinny but have gone through many stages of bulking up at the gym. I always got alot more girls when I was skinny but that could also be due to the fact if you go to the gym alot you don't really have as much time to meet girls all the time. One guy I know who use to be skinny became very well tonned and got a well built body but he gets way less girls then he did skinny. Also the guys I know who do the best with girls are normally quite skinny tbf or skinny fat. I think there is to many other factors involved. Some people's frames don't look good with added muscle takes a certain frame to pull it off.

hahaha so true

@Arcangelo in what sense ?

@Forrest Adkins if you invested all this effort in actually going out and meeting girls in real life you might of gotten a hot date already. Complaining about this is like saying it's unfair that some people are born into rich families. @Arcangelo if you actually read his first couple of posts he's stating how unfair dating is for men. This is toxic behaviour, how can this help him in anyway surely it would be better to just focus on accepting and loving himself working with the tools he has then worry about what others can or can't get. And like I said before what is all the fuss about this stuff anyway? Having relationships and sex dose not make you truly happy ? You are all arguing and crying over spilt milk. Come on guys it's time to start maturing and doing the work Leo advocates

@Forrest Adkins I never said anything about denying anything. its truth maybe the girls on dating apps want good looking guys, so what, big deal. Its not ugly, your creating meaning from it in a very negative way. What I am saying is that even if you were on one of these good looking guys you still wouldn't be happy. happiness is what we are all searching for at our very core not sex or validation, they are pretty low down things when you start to wake up. Im not saying they are not of value but its really not that big of a deal. Do you want help out of this or not? There are people on this forum who have more experience in this area and have escaped the traps you are falling into. Can I ask you this, do you want to suffer about this or wouldn't you prefer to find a way out ? because you are literally causing your own suffering here.

@Forrest Adkins I would advise you stop this experiment right now it's very damaging to your own growth. Why should you care about what other people can or could have? You are you, you can't change that fact. Accept it now otherwise your are going to just create extra suffering in your life that dose not need to be there in the first place. I can tell you now from a person with expirence no amount of girls or sex can make you happy, if you try it it gets empty very quickly and you move on to try and find deeper ways of finding happiness. Or most stay trapped and keep consuming more of it without getting the messahe. We all have an equal playing field when it comes to finding true happiness, the type that dose not go away. This is where your effort should be going into. Infact you should count it as a blessing your not in the top 10% because you have less distractions, sex can bea nasty distraction. Stop this experiment right now and go do something that will feed your soul. It's like your stabbing yourself with a pen and complaining it hurts. Learn to love the fact you are even alive.

The problem is in the question itself. Your already making an assumption that rocks are not conscious but humans are. How could you know that for a fact. The old materialistic paradigms coming back into play. All you know to your expirence is that you are conscious, so rocks you and everything else in it is all made up of consciousness. To assume otherwise is just a belief based on no direct evidence.

You have to outsmart the addiction, sometimes its the only way. Your brain will do whatever it can to try and find ways for you to fall back into the addiction. We live in a very overly sexualised society so you have a lot against you. Do a complete detox, icompletely detox from all devises that have internet etc. Do a ten day Vipassana or look at maybe volunteering somewhere that dose not have internet or phone use. After about 6 months your brain will start to free itself from the addiction. Its like being an alcoholic and living in a bar, sometimes you just have to leave the bar. Of course this is extreme and you might not be able to do this because of commitments you have with your life but start looking at ways to get ride of devices the could enable you to access porn for a period of time until its under control

I overcame it, took along time and a lot of hard work. I just went out as much as I could and through myself in as many social situations as I could. For almost two years straight I made sure I met around 3 to 10 new people a day. Its not actually that hard to overcome if your willing to face the fear head on. Of course you have to be mindful not to re-traumatise yourself when doing lots of exposure therapy

@wk197 Obviously they are great things and should be pursued but they are by no means the greatest pleasures in life. As I said before mystical experiences can completely transcend normal sex and relationships they are not even in the same category. If you don't believe me research into the Jhanas and learn how to access both the 1st and 2nd Jhana. Or take some psychedelics Reality itself is so magical and full of infinite love we have just become blind to it. Its just when you start having these experiences and you look back on things like red pill it just seems pointless to invest your time in it. Its like crying over spilt milk. So in anwser to the question invest your time in spiritual development. Red pill has some useful stuff that a man could poss use its just riddled with self bias and misogyny. Its not really about true self improvement it just uses that as a mask to hook people in.

@Roy Totally agree, people are at different points on there journey and its important not to shame someone who is involved in these's ideas I guess just point out there dangers. It seems like there is a growing divide between men and women at the moment which is sad to see but like you said its the way things are and have to be accepted and not judged

@GGG First off lot of the philosophies like red pill, mgtow etc are not actually grounded in actual truth, its more a representation of the possible negative situations you COULD find yourself in. There are so many variables and they are just pointing out the most negative ones. They make it seem like this will be the case for everyone. Its like getting a certain illness and then saying everyone will get the illness also, instead its better to look at how you developed the illness in the first place and look to cure it. From my personal experience it seems if you attract shallow people who will dump you for someone who has supposed superior genetics then its more a deeper aspect of your shadow you are somehow manifesting. You have to be so carful even reading these ideas because if you start to even believe it slightly you might start manifesting it subconsciously. Now the biggest reason why this is such a waste of time is once you start having mystical experiences you really just how limiting it is trying to find your source of happiness from things like relationships and sex, that's not to say they are not great and worth pursuing its just they are not even close to comparing to the greatest joys in life. Its really like complaining about spilt milk. Personally I have had great relationships with women and they have been nothing but honest, humble and consciously growing and its allowed me to also grow. When I was younger I was so baffled as to why they wouldn't act like how red pill or MGTOW would. Once you start to grown spiritually you will see through this and laugh about it. Just don't fall into its traps.

If anyone wants me to go into more detail why this is not worth your time I will happily

@outlandish Yes there defo is a time and a place for them, if only people could see the other side and realise just how much of a waste of energy it is.

Sadguru seems like quiet the joker?

Hey mate, 26 is fine, your never to old really until you hit your mid 40s even then. I sent you a PM regarding this post.