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I enjoy a good bevvy. Imagine the modern world with no pubs. How many great new friends and social interactions have most people made via a few bevvies in the pub. And needless to say how many new lives have been created because of a few too many?. So long as you don’t take drinking alcohol to the extremes and moderate how much you have on a regular basis I see no harm in it what so ever. I’m not convinced of its spiritual benefits mind, but then again it is an altered state of consciousness, although an ego enhancer rather than an ego dissolver. Then again, I every now and then enjoy just taking a wander around a few pubs on my own during an afternoon and just observing the behaviours of the public and seeing how people go abouts their lives whilst having meself a few pints. Can gain some interesting insights whilst just taking in the world as it plods along in front of you. Not that alcohol is at all needed to do that, but is just something I’ll do from time to time. But In general I think alcohol is much more of a social aspect of life and won’t do much at all, if anything in ones pursuit of realising God. But then again there may be people who can suggest otherwise ??‍♂️

No idea where to write this so just going to throw it in here, am not after any responses. But spent the afternoon nipping around a few pubs just on my own having a few pints. Whilst listening to Leo’s latest video, through the podcast, just watching people knock about do their thing as they do. And listening to Leo’s no bullshit way of putting things whilst just taking in everyday life at the same time was so very eye opening. Top top listen that one??

I remember leo in one of his more recent videos saying that there was a 2nd dimension to awakening. I can’t remember the exact way he framed it. But he said basically there’s just no way of explaining it in any way so he just can’t go there, can’t even try to even remotely put it into words. So he’s just not. And had realised there was basically gonna be a 3rd and 4th and so on to infinity. Which obviously adds up because infinity is infinity so I guess it should really be of no surprise. Anybody have any idea what so ever? Or experienced what they think would be this? I’m just curious as to whether anyone out there related to what he said and thought along the lines of ‘yes I know exactly what he’s on about’. Or is he totally on his own with that? And I wonder if a point will come where he may find some way to try relate to us just what it is. As it’s clearly difficult enough to relate to most people the basics of awakening

@traveler I get ya point ??

Of course it’s a critique?. I’d have to say that you yourself are lacking the ‘nuance’ that you yourself are trying to talk about. I wonder where you picked up the word ‘nuance’?. Very likely from the man your criticising?. I’m not here to back up Leo’s ways anyway tbh I’m not even sure why I’m bothering. He’s more than capable of doing that himself. I think I’ll zip it ? on here for a while and just observe. I certainly respect all views and opinions, your one included??

Straight to the point, no beating about the bush, no dicking about. Someone before me there pointed out his crying at times. If that’s not showing compassion I don’t know what is, crying publicly in front of millions. Well I don’t know actually if it’s millions that watch his stuff, but you know what I mean. I don’t know what people want, if he was sobbing about and speaking as though he was in la la land to satisfy the soft ollies of the world I’ve no doubt he’d lose the core of his audience. Have to be genuine. And genuine in my opinion is what you get. The ones who arnt keen on it will switch off I’m sure. I’m also of absolute certainty that this would not bother the guy in the slightest if some people do. You really can’t knock anyone for being genuine. But then again, we all have different ways. I criticise other ways and methods. You are absolutely free too to criticise his one

I’ve got a slightly different view on this. He seems to have had an awakening to some degree and has a sort of clear view on awakening. How deep this goes I’m not to sure I havnt seen enough of him, neither to be honest can I be arsed watching too much of him. But what I have seen in a few videos is that I get the general feeling his ego is co-opting his awakening. Although he seems to have a bit of knowledge as such, maybe the wrong word to use, his delivery is atrocious. He’s obviously a highly viewed youtuber and I’m not convinced he’s teaching anybody anything at all, due to the way he’s delivering this stuff. Infact im seeing quite the opposite, he’s making himself look like a fool. And by that I mean to people like the mental health service and just the public in general. Although it’s pretty amusing to people who know what he’s talking about, those he’s actually trying to get his message out too are either really concerned or just taking in his antics for comedic value. Basically watching him for a laugh because to an ordinary minded person he’s probably looking like an absolute dick head. Excuse my language. Maybe more making a spiritual path look like nonsense, therefore not helping anyone to awaken, infact quite the opposite. I’ve no doubt he’s a spot on guy and nice enough, he comes across that way. But he’s making it all look like a it’s a joke, and your average person would no doubt feel they certainly do not want to follow in his footsteps. I saw one video of him explaining the Jesus story. Now there’s no doubt we all know Jesus, if there actually was a Jesus, was just an enlightened human being and not the son of god an all that, but this murphey lad stretches things too far by claiming Jesus pretended to die and then arose to make it look like he came back from the dead. I’m not saying that wasn’t the case, I don’t know. But neither does he, and the mere fact he claims to 100% know this is the case, well, that’s absolute shite and no wonder people think he’s mad. I’m not after any arguments with anyone on here about this I’ve go no interest or time to bother my ass arguing or debating it. As I did find the video pretty funny I laughed and it amused me. The guy can do what he wants but I won’t be keeping too many tabs on him. I’m just putting across a point from how I see it looking at the bigger picture

I’ve watched a fair bit of this bloke and I think it’s difficult to deny he’s on the ball with this stuff. Clearly a different personality type to most awakened people ya tend to come across. But listen to the the things he says and how he talks about it. For me he’s clearly where he claims to be. Gifted I don’t know, as he’s put in a lot of work. Personally I’d say his works paid off more than just being outright gifted. But unless being around the guy and actually getting to know him a bit, then it’s all a bit of guess work I suppose

This is probably the most comical nonsensical title of a post I’ve come across yet? but I love a bit of humour and this done the trick??

Bollocks to this lad? I’m more interested in awakening and living this life knowing it rather than awakening and finding out I’ve just drowned in the bath???

Was a good watch this. Funny to see sort of 2 ends of the spectrum discussing the topic. Credit to the scientist fella at least he’s listening and trying to take on board guru’s views. But it’s clear he just doesn’t get it, at least he can admit that. Most scientists just write these things off in an instant. I’m not convinced about this karmic bubble type thing he’s on about though that’s something that would need validation from myself, like all things I guess. At the moment I just don’t see that, maybe though, but for now I ain’t got that. I couldn’t help but laugh at the blokes reactions though, and could only imagine what it would have been like if it was leo on the other end of that call instead, let the scientist babble on about the brain and then see his mystified dumbstruck reaction if leo just then turned round to him and said you don’t have a brain’? and proceeded to rattle off his why you don’t have a brain episode to him. I think I’d probably collapse and cry with laughter at the science guys mortified reactions. Would be humorous to say the least

I think it’s just a state of confusion. I’ve no doubt it’s possible in altered states to tap into other lives, past ones future ones. But only because you have been, will be, are all of them. Every single last one of them down to the finest detail. I think confusion arises from these people tapping into 1 in particular, then/or 2, 3, 4, 5 and so on to however many they become aware of in this past life regression field that people do by altering their state. But not being conscious that they’re actually God, and all lives, they interpret it as they have only experienced a particular number of lives however many they come across. I think this creates all sorts of belief systems too, beliefs that will stem from this one particular belief of past lives. This is just my own particular angle on what might be going on here

The conclusion I’m coming to, or have come to, is that there is no soul. Not in the typical way people like to see anyway. As in like a spiritual energy body or what have ya that sits within the physical body, and exits the physical body upon death and enters a new realm or dimension or whatever other places people like to associate with. The soul to me is just another story of the ego mind, to give it some sort of relief type thing because it knows it’s going to die, it creates a soul scenario where it can feel like it continues as the individual after death. Clinging onto survival to some degree, therefore creating such nonsense as the soul in this manner. It’s a nice story for the ego mind. I used to believe in such things as I used to regularly astral project, infact I did last night accidentally. This gives rise to the belief as you feel as though your an energy body leaving the physical and ghosting around in a less physical more ghostly like plane. I can see why people get stuck with this idea. But I’m not having it anymore. The deeper and deeper I go with this work the more I can see this is just more projection, no different to how you project this physical world, but with different limitations. For me it’s just God/you/I tricking itself that it’s a soul, in the exact same way it tricks itself it a human being. There are no individual souls in the same way there really are no individual beings. Although it certainly seems like there is. It’s a good way to reference though when talking about deep within you, as in when you say the likes of deep within your soul, or something touched your soul or whatever phrases people use. It’s just God. I’m happy to be corrected by anyone. But for me the notion of a soul is nothing other than pure bullshit in its typical individualised form

I listen to mikes Hotboxin podcast regularly. He’s a very intelligent guy, a lot more intelligent than people give him credit for. His historical knowledge on a very wide range of subjects is quite astounding to be honest with you. He regularly talks of his toad experiences and has no doubt gone very deep into consciousness. But from the way he talks about these experiences, Mike doesn’t know what consciousness actually is. He’s done the toad with no prior work into consciousness. He basically just blasted himself in there and gets completely overwhelmed. He’s talked about how he died, he became god during these trips. But yet he still doesn’t realise he is god. He consistently talks about god as if gods out there somewhere, as if we will be judged at the end of our days, that type thing. Tyson is absolutely laced with beliefs, even though he’s had a number of direct experiences using the toad. Maybe he knows in some way, but his ego definitely is not accepting whatever he was subjected to during his trips. He no prior insight to what consciousness is, so basically when he trips he just doesn’t have a clue what’s actually going on. He seems like someone who definitely would get there if he found or came across the right guidance. Actualized.org would be perfect for Tyson. And he seems the type of guy who would do the work and take it seriously. He’s clearly a masterful learner, to learn the boxing skills he did, with his early background and that deserves nothing but respect. And as I say his historical knowledge is right up there. Infact, that is one podcast I’d like to see leo on, as Tyson would be nothing but highly interested in what he had to say. But in all likelihood he’s not even aware of Leo. Leo being mikes teacher, now that’s be a story? unless Tyson decided to knock him out one day when Leo’s trying to get through to him by calling him a donkey?. Anyway either way, mike Tyson is not enlightened. Far from it. And unfortunately if he ever did become totally awake, and decided to make it public, they’d probably lock him up in a mental institute claiming he’d gone mad and thinks he’s god, because of the unfortunate way he’s been perceived down the years. Because that’s the way of the current world

This exact thing happened with myself. My face morphing, young face, old face, different weighted face, healthy looking, unhealthy looking in a multitude of different ways, how I’d look if I hadn’t looked after myself, how I’d look if I’d looked after myself even better than I have. Every single possible emotion on my face I could imagine, from happy to sad, from genuine to just downright evil looking as if I was one horrible piece of shit. My eyes going through grief as if I was dealing with a parents passing or something, eyes glowing with pride, and many more, to many to list. Just everything. All whilst I knew my expression wasn’t actually changing I was just staring relaxed into the mirror. I looked at my arms and I could see them altering in size and shape, sometimes thin, sometimes as they are, and sometime more muscular. I realised at this point that all these different expressions and bodily transformations were already there. All’s I’m doing from one moment to the next is morphing, but in reality it’s not one moment to the next it’s all actually in this one singular timeless moment. I began to watch the movement of my hands as a began to wave them, seeing them move through like a squiggly sort of transparent sort of like noodley thing all around me. Only way I can describe was like a plate of noodles or something. I walked around my apartment in this manner, observing how I wasn’t actually moving anywhere, just morphing, and everything around me morphing in this one moment, not actually within a time frame. I come to the conclusion that this was just me wandering around in infinity, it was beautiful. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong on this. But this was the realisation I came to. And that everything I ever see, everywhere I ever go, is really nowhere, just morphing in this one and only eternal sort of spot. The only place there is, which didn’t even actually seem like a place, just seemed like nowhere in the middle of nowhere, but everywhere if you get me. I realised well I clearly just morph into whatever when i identify with being someone, as in right now I’m identifying with being this particular form. That’s about as far as I got. I look forward to expanding this n this just finding an absolute understanding of it all, the mechanics of it, the how’s the whys you know, just everything, whatever it may bring. Got to get to the bottom of reality. But on a finishing note, I didn’t actually turn into anybody else, I didn’t turn into Hitler? although I realised how I could be him. I’m glad I read this post as it’s fantastic to hear the same or very similar experiences. Helps me confirm I ain’t going around the bend? unless we both are hahaha

Trump is full of shit, shit shit and more shit. Never have I heard so much drivel drool out of a mans mouth. Especially a leader of one of, if not, probably the most powerful nation on the planet. You would think that with me being from the UK that this wouldn’t be of any interest to me. But it is, as the UK kiss America’s ass and without siding with America as we always do, then the UK is actually weak as piss. No doubt most brits would claim otherwise, as most people I know do, believe we’ve got more about us than we actually have. But it’s not the case. We need America, and we need it ran well, not by an idiot like Donald trump

? I don’t think he was quite after a riddle of guru type nature? just ya basic good old down to earth answer @diamondpenguin yes mate you can see mars with the naked eye. No idea what it looks like through a telescope probably pretty cool with a decent one ??

Yea I guess your right I’d have been better just chilling out and taking it in for what it is. But it gave me more of a feeling that I just wanted to give good old sting there a good crack round the chops ?. Never mind ey @Galyna and certainly don’t be apologising for anyone’s reaction to the movie, it’s not your fault stings a donkey hahaha. It’s good you enjoyed it ?

@danilofaria This is a dreadful program. I turned it off half way through it was a painful watch of people who have no fucking idea what so ever. Actual idiots when it comes to the use of psychedelics. Serious materialistic paradigm going on with these people. It’s a terrible advert for psychedelics but then it’s mainstream so what’s to be expected other than what it is. It’s half the reason why the general population have literally no chance of ever waking up

@Leo Gura I’m finding myself a tad confused. I do not claim to know the answer to this what so ever but hopefully in time after deeper awakenings I can clarify this. But as your creating them, are you saying that everyone you look at is basically not actually got anything going through their mind, until you actually interact with them, and even then, there’s still nothing going through their mind it’s just actually your own mind talking back to you? Although the majority are unaware of this. Which still wouldn’t add up because that majority are all my/your own projection anyway. So basically I can see people in the distance at work here and hear them talking to each other. But in reality is that just me I’m hearing and they are actually over there in the distance as my projection and basically just empty heads ?. Which infact I would find pretty hilarious if I’m honest. I really thought I was getting this shit down after what I feel we’re 4-5 real deep awakenings on lsd. That’s all that’s available to me at present so I’m trying to go where I can with that. But last few days my thinking mind has lead me into a state of confusion rather than the clarity I thought I held? not in a bad way, I feel great, just my ego mind has begun questioning itselsf, or that’s how it feels anyway haha

@Florian no harm in looking into it. It can happen spontaneously so at least if you looked into it you’d be more prepared for what’s to come. Because experiencing what you say you have there with the sleep paralysis and vibrations, the very next step will be the sensation of leaving the body, so without even trying, your edging closer and closer to an obe anyway. Best to be prepared than to just exit and shit yaself?. Remember though, if you do try to proceed, this is all mind, as much as it feels like a soul or whatever leaving the body. Good luck with whatever you do and whatever follows next ??

This is sleep paralysis and the vibrational stage that proceeds astral projection. You can train your mind to help you project from that position you were in of the trembling/vibrations, so when you try to move, instead of being stuck, you will move, literally get up out of your body with an astral body, pretty much like a ghost body. And you will be out, in another sort of realm. Like a more subtle dream like version of this world. You can fly you can go anywhere your mind can muster up once you’ve got the hang of it. You can also end up places you don’t really fancy being at all. Can be quite disturbing at first as you will encounter entities, human like, alien like, all sorts of weird things. It’s amazing what you find you hold in your subconscious. And all’s this whilst laying in your bed a sleep. Very much like lucid dreaming but there’s a different feel about it, it’s hard to describe. This can feel ultimately real, as real as your everyday waking life, but a bit more dreamy. As real as it seems though, it is all just still imagination, projection of your own mind. But a very interesting one to say the least, and you can do it all without the use of psychedelics or any substance, just by going to sleep but learning how to remain aware. I spent about a year exploring this state of consciousness, very intriguing. But what I found was that people seem to get stuck on the idea, and the way it manifests seems to trick those that do it that this is their destination when they die. I’ve come to realise that this is not the case, and is just more projection, of this particular life your living right now. Great fun nonetheless though I’d advise anyone to have a pop at it. If interested I used ryan croppers techniques to get me there I found on YouTube if that’s any use to you, and it took me about a month to 6 weeks to nail it before I had my first experience. I won’t lie I shit myself at first, but then it became a great experience as I worked out the ins and outs of what was actually going on. Now I don’t try, it’ll just happen spontaneously from time to time I’m not fussed about it anymore, but I make the most of it if it does happen. It’s an area of consciousness that’s interesting, but your not going to get to the depths of reality through it, that’s far and away beyond astral projection

Exactly the reason I think Leo going on Rogan’s podcast would be a pointless exercise. As to the type of character in general, not all but in general that are listeners of it, would likely listen to what Leo says about being god and all that, then runaway thinking and believing that they are god cus some guy on the joe rogan podcast said it. Ego’s running round believing they’re god, without doing any work, having absolutely no idea what consciousness is. That’s no good for anybody to be honest. Yea there may be a minority that took Leo seriously and begin a dedicated spiritual journey type thing, but they’d be in the minority. I think anyone who’s serious about the nature of reality will find Leo themselves, or, and other spiritual teachers, because they’re genuinely interested and are searching anyway. Just a personal opinion, but from where I stand, Leo and the joe Rogan podcast don’t really mix ??‍♂️

Rogan is asking the questions. That’s all good. But his best bet would just be to sign up to actualized.org, take on board Leo’s teachings, do the work, and get those questions answered ?. It seems he’s currently of the belief these things can’t be answered, yet they can

@SoonHei all of u. Gobsmacked. Great to see u all?