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@Javfly33 yea of course you can awaken and become enlightened. And function just fine. You can be enlightened and function perfectly well, function far better than you do now. But that wasn’t my point, my point was that in these radical states you can not. And it clear you can not. Because I’ve been in mega high states where I’ve realised I am, have been, and will be everyone that’s ever lived. But it takes extreme levels, states, to realise these things. An example being that my whole bathroom turned into a a shitty showery bog and I was in a trench in the middle of world war 1. I was on lsd yes. But the clarity of the situation in the moment, something that can only be known/seen however you want to put it, from a higher state. In these states, you can not function. I’ve never had 5meo so I can’t comment on that experience. I assume that would take me far deeper. But then I’ll never know until I know. So I just go off what my direct experience has shown me. Either way, you can’t function as a so called normal human from them states. There’s being enlightened, which I’m sure you can probably function from, and then there’s ridiculously higher states, which I’m afraid to say you can not

This is absolutely true. It’s impossible to function in a structured manner in these higher states. People can’t even function properly, walk, think, eat, and certainly go abouts their daily job whilst drunk. If someone had 10 beers they couldn’t do any of that stuff effectively. Yet some people have some ridiculous beliefs that in mega high states of consciousness you should just be able to wander around doing these things. These things can’t be done when reality itself ceases to function accordingly. Sometimes I chuckle to myself at the naivety. A lot of people, infact most, just don’t understand what states of consciousness actually means

Look mate. It’s called teaching! I’m looking forward to Leo’s next 2 hour video where he just sits in silence and looks into the camera? sounds like that’s what you would call a great teaching. Behave yaself fooling around with such idiocy. Humorous

It’s just mind man. Mind is completely formless which creates/imagines form. This should be obvious through your dreams. Your formless mind creates and imagines a full on seemingly formed reality. You could move around and interact with an entire world in your dreams. Then you wake up and realise that you havnt actually moved an inch, other than in your imagination. Realising that all that form you encountered was actually nothing. So the ‘something’ was actually ‘nothing’. Same goes here, when you think your awake, your actually God asleep, dreaming this. A seeming ‘something’, that when you awaken you will realise it is all actually nothing. Pure imagination, formless consciousness. Therefore form and formlessness are absolutely identical. Your just a formless mind, never truly moved anywhere, because there’s nowhere to go, imagining that there is ??‍♂️

This is easily Leo. Made it relatable to the average man. Spira and watts are great, but they’ve a way about them which just doesn’t relate to the average man. I had many questions a few years ago and had no idea where to go with them. Coming across spira and watts and many others, just had me thinking what on earth are these people goin on about. It was the depth of Leo’s videos, the explanations, taking these things into my everyday life, ones like the actuality video, perception, what is truth, and many more, hours of detailed explanations, but also giving you a guide of how to investigate these things for yourself. These type thing made it much easier to realise what the likes of spira were actually on about, what they were pointing to. Now I appreciate them a lot more. I had no idea how to delve deep into my own mind before watching Leo’s work. Too many also make shit seem far too holy rather than just being a normal bloke or whatever. And I found that most of these new agers just sidetrack you with their nonsense beliefs. Ya could sit in the pub and have a beer with Leo and a good laugh, and also a serious discussion, although he’d probably stick to the lemonade from what he says. It’s a posh cafe with a slice of cake and a cup of tea with spira?. So yea that’s a pretty easy question for me to answer

Intensity of imagination. The more intense the more solidified and material it’ll be. When you seemingly travel to New York, it is so intensely imagined that you create a full on cubic reality. You do this wherever you are, because if you didn’t your reality would begin to collapse, as does on lsd with a high enough dose. Only this would be happening without the use of psychedelics and therefore of course you would feel as though your going insane. The same happens with a night dream, you imagine so intensely that it create a solid cubic reality for you to seemingly navigate. Become lucid in that dream and it’ll begin to melt or morph or collapse. Depending on how lucid you become will either keep the solidified reality and you just navigate it, or realise that not only are you in a dream, but you are the dream, and everything in it. Creating it through pure imagination. God mode in your sleep. Our waking reality is pretty much the same thing, and the levels of how lucid you are in this waking state, in the same fashion pretty much determine how awake you are in the terms of what spirituality is about. The waking state is much more intensely imagined than the dream state, hence why it’s so much more difficult to break out of. But even still more often than not the sleeping dream will have you fooled nearly every night, even if there’s a spaghetti monster in it?. God can certainly create a living material spaghetti monster, but you don’t do it, and probably for good reason, to keep you grounded in this life that you’ve created, solid, material and structured, with the spaghetti monster as so called imaginative fantasy

Thought about this a lot down the years as used to enjoy many time travel themed shows. A couple of my favourites were a series called 12 monkeys, there’s a film too but never seen that, and a Canadian series called continuum. Cool shows I preferred continuum as I enjoyed the storyline more. But on the real notion on time travel, I’m not convinced at all that it’s physically possible in the way we see in the movies. But I wouldn’t write it off in terms of altered states of consciousness. Not that I’ve ever even remotely experienced such a phenomena. But my mind is open to the possibility that one could potentially so radically alter their state, that maybe they could end up winding up in a different time period. Only then they’d have altered consciousness so completely they either wouldn’t even realise they’d done it themselves, or if they were aware, then because all that would exist would be that state and environment dreamed up, then they would come across as a complete madman and be thrown in the nuthouse for claiming such a thing. So my belief is time travel likely doesn’t lie within the realms of physical laws, but within states of consciousness itself. Who knows??‍♂️

So @Nahm what are u actually saying mate? All I ever get from you is riddles! Do you think Jesus was a living human being or not?

That energy or whatever u want to call it, that ‘I am’ is the exact same I ‘I am’ as I am. Your just a different configuration of that ‘I am’. Same ‘I am’ though. This is how I’m you and your me. Same ‘I am’ different configuration

Yea but you do realise right that it’s representing and expressing a state, of the point that it’s where God completely becomes you that you’ve totally forgotten your God, therefore beaming out those words, to what is now seen as an outside God. The idea that there was a man called Jesus who was crucified on a cross all those years ago needs dropped. It’s all just representing states. It’s how they felt best communicating it in the times. Through these mysterious stories. If it can’t be seen through that the stories of the bible are not about an individual human being from a couple of thousand years ago, and that these things represent you, as man, and the various states of consciousness passed through from being full blown God, infinite awareness itself, to limiting yourself in human form, and all the way back, awakening and resurrecting yourself fully to your infinite being, then there’s a lot of work ahead. I’m not religious. The bible is a representation and a great one at that. But it’s representing you. Not a historical figure called Jesus

Naa. The crucifixion represents God crucifying itself into the body of man. To become you. You’ve already suffered the crucifixion limiting yourself as human. You are the cross, your human limited mind and body. The resurrection represents the total awakening to yourself as God, to put it short and sweet. No historical actual physical Jesus. The misinterpretations of this are scandalous

You can become conscious of how your doing it. From a massively heightened state. Interpreting it with your finite ego mind is where it becomes tricky. You can barely explain it to yourself in your own head once returned to an ordinary state and that’s with being able to perceive imagery in your own imagination along with your vocabulary trying to explain it to yourself with words. Never mind trying to explain it to another person using only wording. And in an ordinary everyday state so to speak, your not conscious of it. So your going off memory anyway to start with, of something you can’t even explain to yourself properly. When in a state of being conscious of it, it’s completely obvious, but ultimately so shocking and unbelievable at the same time. You become the ‘how’. Infinite intelligence pours through you at painful levels it’s so effortlessly intelligent. I remember once holding my head in my hands not being able to take the intelligence that I was becoming aware of. Like every drop of the heaviest rainfall you can imagine ploughing right through me. And then I let go, and had one of my greatest awakening experiences to date. The release of the limitations, the beauty and awe of the design and what’s at play. But that’s so unexplainable from my limited vocabulary. It even becomes as if there’s not even a how. But at the same time you see how. Greatest thing about it, is that you know there’s even more depth to it than what I experienced. So many facets. So much more to experience. Or to be

@OneHandClap I’m feeling you man! Your seem abouts as half way there as I am???

It’s all a story mate. That’s the beauty of it. When u awaken, if you ever have, I’ve no idea if you have or not. Maybe you have. But all’s you’ll find is us, me and you in the exact same place. You’ll laugh at me and I’ll laugh right back at you, as you?. It’s painfully humorous. But again as I always say, I’m not conscious of this now. Next time I am I’ll give you a wave ? haha. As I hope you do me too??. Love ya’s all in that state. In this state, I’m still argumentative and full of shit. Looking forward to the sun rising tomorrow ???

No. This is verifiable. It doesn’t continue! In a paradoxical way it’s always happening. But the only thing that will be perceiving it is you. If it continues for instance without the finite self that you are, seeing it, then it’s only because You, with a capital Y is seeing it from a different perspective. I.e maybe mine, or @SQAAD ‘s, or Leo’s, or whoever’s. Whatever’s. There’s no rising of the sun if you don’t witness it. Sorry to break that to you but is what it is. Not arsed about Leo’s words when it comes to that. It is what it is. See ya when I be ya???

If you die tonight, the sun will not rise tomorrow. IT WILL NOT. This universe doesn’t go on without you being conscious of it. So literally, if your not conscious of the sun rising tomorrow, it will not rise. This goes for if you sleep for the next 48 hours too. You would have assumed it rose, and set, whilst you were out, but it didn’t ??‍♂️

As clever as all that shit is and how it works, what’s involved, the mechanics of it and all that, which I don’t know very much about by the way, but is quite ludicrous in its own right, when I realised it was all imaginary was a hell more of a wtf moment. I knew how the phone I was watching a video on was imaginary, the video appearing was imaginary, being created in that very moment. It was clear and obvious what was going up on, even how my mind was holding the internet in place to be able to stream the video. Sat there in disbelief. Then now as I’m in a so called ordinary state of consciousness, I still feel wtf is going on there, with videos, with recordings. I have that sense of something was recorded say 10 years, in the past, and now I’m watching it. But I’ve been in states where that has melted before my very eyes and knew clearly how it was being created in that very moment. Infact in this moment, because it’s the same moment. But my daily state doesn’t allow for me to see through this, so I conceptualise the idea of it. Even though I’m fully aware I’m not conscious of it now, I know it is the case. For me though, that’s not good enough, to be conscious of it now in this very moment, and then I’ll know I’m truly getting somewhere

@FlyingLotus cool. Cheers

Hey I only ask because I usually take a couple of hours out of a sunday and enjoy. Try to take on some wisdom and lead what you say and contemplate it throughout the following week??

The issue is here that your question seems like it’s coming from an egoic standpoint in order to minipulate. I’ve personally never consciously/knowingly transmitted thoughts, neither would I care to. I certainly wouldn’t appreciate someone transmitting thoughts directly to me. Now I’m fully aware that all communication is a type of transfer of thought from one to another. But the manner in which your framing it seems in the form of manipulation through the transfer of thoughts to worm particular situations in your favour. My thinking would be that if you were able to transfer thought in the way your asking, that it would come from such a higher state of consciousness than your currently in, that the petty thoughts your ego wants to transfer would become so meaningless and nonsensical that those thoughts are not at all what you would end up transferring. It would likely be something of a much higher and all round loving state of consciousness than anything that might benefit you personally

Hahaha I knew some fucker like you would be on babbling some nonsense along those lines?. I could see it a mile off haha??. Was just genuine question though as sundays are a nice relaxing day to sit there and take in some good old actualized.org hahaha. Kinda get used to it ?. It’s great to have someone put some decent stuff to you that you truly have to contemplate. They are few and far between. I could always throw on some fool babbling bullshit haha. But that tired me for a mere 30-40 years haha. But tbh I enjoy the depth of what is usually a good bit of Sunday wisdom and Leo delivers that. Netflix it is then????

Funny as I spent a couple of days the other week with similar at the top of my contemplations. I was thinking about having more senses than what we have as humans. What other type of senses there might be that I can’t even comprehend. And wondered if I had all possible senses simultaneously, infinite senses, that I would just be completely infinite without being able to distinguish any particular one, therefore all cancelling each other out, so simultaneously having no senses at all. So I concluded that withdrawing all senses would be exactly the same as having all senses. I would be completely infinite in both cases as both are exactly the same. Which made total sense to me of the notion of God, the infinite, being both everything and nothing simultaneously. It was really the perfect strange loop how I grasped it. Our senses are our limitations. But in a peculiar way the less senses you have, the more limited you become, until you actually reach zero, then you become infinite. The more you have the less limited you become, until that point where not one can be distinguished from another and you’ve come completely full circle and ended up at the exact same place, infinite. There seems truly to be no way to escape infinity. No matter which direction you head in. Ya just come full circle and it’s absolutely fucking astonishing when you really think about it. Totally understandable why God limits itself, why it has to, to experience anything at all, as in itself.

This is easy as I contemplate this just about every day at some point. I’m awed at it’s ‘diversity’. So many things are possible. Infact I could live this current life over and over, in a multitude of different ways from the get go. Literally infinite different ways. I could never run out of different ways to live it even if I was this personal character time and time again. But even just during this one lifetime the diversity is unbelievable. From this very moment now in my late 30’s the variety of ways it can go from here is unnumbered. I also love the fact it can be worked out what is actually going on. What a life is. But without it being so diverse you may not be able to do that. A monkeys life is not diverse enough for it to work out what it truly is. Where as a human life is. So as much as I love working it out, it’s the pure diversity of the whole thing that I love the most. Both the good and bad possibilities. I just try to stick to my own relative opinion of what’s good

Interesting that. Good stuff

No difference no. But… the difference is your imagining this so fucking hard that it’s become real. And your puny tiny little ego has no control of it! I imagine that you imagine you have some sort of control of it through your weak ass human imagination. Which you don’t?