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Yes I would. But I’d claim you never ever left that in the first place. That it is always here. Most of us just don’t recognise it on a day to day basis because of the limitations we’ve obscured ourselves with. What we project. It’s always the case, we just bullshit and convince ourselves that it’s not. To a degree it seems not to be. But it’s not this. This is some of that projection and bullshitting of yourself I mean. Words won’t describe what I’m trying to get across anyway. There is no test. It’s just not working like that. Awakenings are what’s needed to see through these things

Misinterpretation. Heaven and hell is quite simple. In short, hell is a limited state of consciousness where there’s pain and suffering, identification with your limited body mind. Exactly where you are right now. Heaven is unlimited infinite God state of consciousness. It’s that basic. Heaven and hell represent states of consciousness. You can certainly make your earthly time as a human much more heavenly though by expanding your every day state

No it can’t. It can help ‘some people’ along towards truth. But with you it won’t. Because you are primed to just take it on as a belief and not as a realisation. If he gives you a seemingly definitive answer you will think about it for a short period, believe it to be 100% true, and then regard yourself as realised, when you won’t be. Find out for yourself man

Your being too small minded about this. Taking too much of a backseat. Reducing yourself to a mere ant like creature gazing out at a giant cosmos. Actually falling into the trap, the game of life and the dream, the illusion. Infact total delusion. Which of course was your initial plan, as God, to delude yourself that this is the case. Your worth is all it’s worth, your worth is that you are the creator of the whole damn thing, without you, what you truly are, it does not exist! Look at the bigger picture of your worth and not that of the limited human ego’s delusion that you are pointless. Even though in one sense it is all actually pointless?. I love the paradoxical nature of this. It’s just love! It all always comes back to love. And that’s a point or meaning of worth you can never get away from. As far away as you think anything can get from it, everything will always circle back around to love. Which makes total sense, because God, reality, infinity, whatever you choose to call it, is just Love

Yea it really does depend what your after. I mean your not gonna be able to grasp how reality is being constructed by sitting there doing inner work and meditating. You could get the non dual nature of reality of course. But if your wanting to actually see the construction at play, it’s going to take psychedelics. Your not going to grasp the visual aspect of for instance how anything and everything is superimposed all in the exact same place through meditation and inner work for just one example. Completely see through the physical illusion that is manifested, and how your doing it. The same goes for all sounds smells and whatever else, everything, all there at once meshed into each other, into infinity. But if your just wanting to work on your personal self, then meditation and that is good. Merge the two together psychedelics and meditation done in the proper manner then your absolutely flying, provided you’ve a good basis of conceptual understandings in the first place. That’s where the years worth of Leo’s videos come in, to help you with understanding what is to come and interpret what has already been. And of course, what is. But without believing, and only through directly experiencing for yourself

No. This is wrong. I would not like the experience of this, correct. I’d be stricken with pain and fear too. Yet at the same time I’ve previously become conscious of God/infinity to understand that this type of thing is part and parcel of it all so I would not have to ask God anything of the sort when I’ve become conscious of why these thing are and why they have to be possible. There also would be no God to ask in that manner anyway as that suggests there is something outside or beyond to ask. Mad at being in the situation very possibly, very likely, but mad at God because it’s a possibility, no

Strange really why someone would get angry at God/infinity. I mean it’s infinite, it’s not like it’s a choice to be infinite, it just exists and that’s what it is. Infinity contains all of anything and everything that can exist. So if what your doing is exploring your own infinite nature, then you are going to come across these things, from every possible perspective. Count yourself fortunate that your current perspective has you watching from an outside point of view rather than being in the firing line. You can only really get angry at God if you don’t know what God is. If you find yourself angry at God, then the God your angry with is a fantasy in your own mind, a delusional idea of God, something separate from yourself, man in the clouds or something like that. Maybe not man in the clouds, but your idea of God, whatever that is, will be incorrect

There is not another universe going on anywhere that you are not taking the central active role in. Although those scientists are more than free to ‘imagine’ that there is

Because your limited and acting from a limited nature and mindset. Detached from your true nature. That’s part and parcel of being a finite limited being. Become infinite and this desire fades into oblivion. The issue is when you become infinite will you remain in an infinite state? Likely not. So you’ll be back searching for your outside love. Unless you accept your infinitude 100% completely as a finite being. Then the searching will stop. But then you won’t be finite. You’ll be infinite, and there’ll be no one else to love. Gods dilemma. Hence, here you are ?

I went through a phase beginning about 15 years ago or so. Long before I moved toward spirituality type things. Bare in mind I’ve been into spirituality and only really known about it in the sense I do for abouts 5 years. This 1111 started popping up out of nowhere. To the point where I started telling my mates and I genuinely began to get a shiver of fear down my spine when I saw it. It was everywhere. Literally everywhere. 6-7-8-10 times a day sometimes. It was freaking me out. So I googled it and was gobsmacked that there was so much about it. This went on for about 4-5 years before I just accepted that I see it. I’d read all this bollocks about angels and spirit guides an all that sending messages. I was a materialist and it just didn’t cut it for me. But in the back of my mind it still freaked me out. It was too persistent. But I let it go yet still seen it over and over, but without consolidating a belief around its appearance in my awareness. I did try play with it mind. If I saw it and there was a decision to be made, I’d take it as a sign I’d go with the ‘yes’ side of the decision. This ended up being a 50/50 positive outcome and I decided it was bullshit. Since being into this work, the spirituality path, and having my own awakenings, I came to realise it for what it was. I had spotted it in my awareness, and subconsciously clung to it without realising. Low consciousness behaviour. Very similar to when you decide you like a girl, then start seeing her everywhere. Unconsciously creating it. It goes very much deeper than this, and something that only truly came to me through awakenings. Awareness and the focus of your awareness and how that shit works. Simply put though it’s all a load of crap from an unconscious mind. It’s not spirit guides and it’s not angels, it’s no shite like that. It’s focusing on a stand out thing that becomes repetitive because you focused on its oddness in the first place. But again it goes so much deeper how and why you focused on its oddities in first place. And a good deep trip for that insight is probably needed. Maybe some can notice this stuff through meditation and the likes, but I can’t. I know though how and why this 1111 happens and it’s a bit beyond my sober human mind to be able to fully explain. It’s more of a realisation of how your mind is working in its ordinary state. Which needs a higher level of state to understand it. Otherwise you’ll just fill your head with bullshit theories

Lock this thread Leo. You know full well the depths that have to be reached to realise solipsism. You know it. And u know this guy hasn’t it! You know how mental, how crazy and how off the chart that realision has to be. I’m not totally there myself yet but the realisations and stages or however you want to put it that have to be reached, are ludicrous in their own right. A guy doesn’t wake up from reality by listening or watching your video. This is becoming embarrassing now. Time to lock the thread

I’ve got a feeling that psychedelics are going to kick your ass mate where you then realise that you havnt yet awoken to solipsism at all. When you have a true psychedelic awakening of a solipsistic nature, this what you think you’ve awoken to here and now will be put into its true perspective. Your in for a shock bud no matter what it is you think your getting at the moment. It’ll cut through this gibberish that you’ve convinced yourself of. And for the record I’m not saying that what your saying is not truth. You’ve talked the talk, I just don’t think you’ve walked the walk. To my mind this is completely conceptual with you. You say your conscious of it. But I’m not having it. You understand the concept, and believe it with 100% conviction. And no doubt had some decent insights. But insight is not awakening. In a sense I’m feeling a little sorry for you. Because I just don’t think your conscious of what you think you are

I can explain that. I can watch a video or read a book and completely understand what is being referred to. I can conceptually totally get it. I can use my mind and conceptually think this into a belief, but I don’t. I can look around right now and put myself in a frame of mind where I can make it seem completely obvious. Yet I am not conscious of it. Therefore I would just be bullshitting myself into believing I had awoken to it. My conclusion is that this is the case for you. You’ve tricked yourself that you have awoken. I genuinely would like to think not, but the way you’ve portrayed this seeming awakening leads me to believe you have. I think your at the total other end of the spectrum as to why Leo took the video down. One end is of those who could potentially have a mental breakdown and the other end is the likes of you, who have taken it on as a belief and created a false awakening from it, which could be as disastrous as the other end of the scale. Just a personal opinion. Take care man

Has he though has he? Or has he just realised and understood what Leo was trying to convey? Like realising he understands what the map is saying but not yet entered the actual terrain. A true realisation is monumentally life shattering and full realisation of solipsism is right at the top end of realisations as such. It’s one thing to understand that what’s being said could seriously be true, a bit of a wtf moment, it’s another to become directly conscious that being the case. I don’t know maybe he has, but my intuition tells me he hasn’t. Would be nice if he has though

When I dream at night there is no loss of this ego. I can sense it’s this exact same ego structure at play. Yes some crazy things might sometimes go down environmentally and circumstantially during the dream, but it’s certainly my waking ego structure that’s at work as the sense of self in the dream. And especially when becoming lucid, that is when my ego really takes over. The dreaming self for me is the exact same self that walks this earth each and every day

Interesting. The only thing I would say is that spira has to have become conscious at some point of another finite mind. Which clearly he hasn’t. Or he would just say so. This means spira is yet to confirm whether there is or isn’t. So he’s going off a belief that there is. Sound to me like he’s gone very very far, but not far enough. I don’t know the absolute answer to this, but most of my deepest awakenings have been very solipsistic. So I’m leaning towards Leo’s revelations. But yet to be totally confirmed without a shadow of a doubt. Which is strange because during my awakenings there is no doubt. But then I come back and my ego creates doubt. What spira suggests is that there’s stuff going on outside of your consciousness. That to me still suggests a sense of separation no matter how subtle, but it’s still there. Up unto now, that goes against my own discoveries

Just because this guy puts it in a post that seems like it can be understood, make sure you don’t believe it. If your not conscious of it, it doesn’t count. It’s easy to say yea that makes sense. But a lot of things make sense. Just because it’s framed well doesn’t make it true. It very well could be true. But until one is conscious of it them very selves, it’s not. Your reality is constructed through beliefs so don’t just be adding another one to it. I’m not saying everyone is, I’m just making sure everyone doesn’t. You know full well when your conscious of something and when your not. If your conscious of something it’s 100% no matter what you want or what feels good or bad to you, it just is what it is. But if your not conscious of it, then it’s not the case

Like what?

I did actually make the point to nahm on here a month or 2 ago that he was always speaking in riddles. I didn’t have a clue half the time but I wasn’t sure if that was on me or on him. Confused me. Seems like a nice genuine guy though and never had any issues with him. Just I didn’t get a lot of his responses. Got to the point where I’d see him respond and I’d instantly just project an image in my minds eye of the riddler from Batman ?. But there’s no doubting he’s a good guy

You just started imagining shit. And then you believed it. It is as simple as that

This is just so tricky. Because to use infinity and time in the same conversation just does not commute. You say then surely you’ll ‘end up living the lives of those I interact with at some point’, so that implies a reference to time, as in one after another after another. But infinity is timeless, it’s one eternal moment that contains the notion of time within it. So it’s not like you will end up this or that, it’s more a case of you already are, right now. You can’t be someone else after you’ve been you. Because this ‘after’ your thinking of, doesn’t actually exist. It will be now, same time, same place, same moment, with the illusion of there being a before and after. I don’t know if this helps with your solipsism question to be honest. I know what I’ve discovered about solipsism and realising the sorts of thing I’ve just mentioned has helped almost cement my current understanding on whether I think it is the case or not. I feel 99% certain of what I think to be the case. But I’m not 100% so I feel it necessary to delve further before an undeniable conclusion is reached for me personally one way or another. I’d like to definitively tell you the answer. But right now I can’t. Good luck with your TOE

Is that even allowed? Bang out of order

Same happens when looking at your own face in a mirror. This is a point when it becomes completely obvious that you are everyone that has, is, and will ever live. And the seeing it in another makes it completely obvious that you are hallucinating every seeming other person in the moment. And everything else that goes with it. There’s nothing really there. But at the same time everything is there. Consciousness solidifies it in an ordinary state, constructs it all so perfectly and consistently. That’s why it’s so hard to see through from an ordinary human state of consciousness. You see and realise you’ve never ever really moved anywhere, that you are infact the whole thing, morphing and changing that creates the seeming moving around moment to moment experience. And a lot lot more but that’s kind of a short way of putting it. I’m guessing though that you already know all this?

Completely speculating here but from an outside perspective it seems like Leo may have outgrown his own creation, as in actualized.org. I don’t mean outgrown teaching the radical things he teaches, but outgrown the current structure and format of the website and his channel. I mean launching these things out for free so any Tom dick an Harry can latch onto them and cause both themselves and him a multitude of bother might not be the way to go abouts this anymore. He did claim in his statement ‘people’ so not necessarily those who are avid followers of the true work involved. But when he says ‘people’ he’s not wrong in saying that, as we well know that 99.9% of the worlds population are genuinely not ready for these sorts of teachings. And his latest deleted video was available, for free, to that whole 99.9%. Maybe, it’s time for a total restructuring of the website and channel, where these deeper more advanced things can be taught. Not exactly sure how that would be done or what the format would be, as I’m no computer internet whizz but I’d imagine it would have its difficulties and would be quite a lot of work. As I said I’m just completely speculating from an outside point of view, I don’t know the guy or any of his thoughts on the matter other than the statement he wrote. One things for sure though that one of, if not his most satisfying thing in life, other than awakening himself, is the teaching of it to HELP others the best he can. And he does a damn good job at it too. Either way, however he decides to move forward is completely his decision and I’m all for however he wants to move the channel forward, if at all. Because what I’ve already gained from it is 2nd to nothing in terms of not just spirituality but also many aspects of life in general. So whatever video is next, it doesn’t really matter, because the guy is free to make whatever choices he wants, as each and every one of us believe we should be able to make whatever choices we want

Whaaaat? This is a travesty it’s gone before I even knew it was there. Can’t argue with his choice though. It would have been nice to have some extra pointers and explanations to use with own realisations and possible future realisations. Just means that this particular subject is going to have to be completely worked out by the individual without some form of help and guidance from leo. It’s always eventually the case anyway it’s all on the individual to verify everything for themselves so I guess no one is really in any a different spot than they were to begin with. With all the work and videos upto this point anyway there’s more than enough to help lead one to clarify the solipsism issue when it arrives during awakening. But the extra video would sure have been good