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It’s normal and fine to have weaknesses and make mistakes in life. What I have learned is important is that by consciously moving through those painful moments with self compassion, objectivity and curiosity you can grow through them. Mastery over mind, emotions, cognition, decision making, actions, is a complex topic. This is a decades long process of developing self mastery which life offers us to take. Don’t shy away from the pain when the light of awareness is shown on aspects of yourself that make you uncomfortable. Instead, lean in, be patient and curious. Connect to your values and adjust accordingly. This is the value of not identifying with anything ie, a nice person, clean person, a calm and respectful person, a knowledgeable person, etc. Because often we have faults in areas we consider ourselves strong in. Instead, make your values and intentions in these areas explicit to yourself. If we focus on seeing what is true as it arises and responding and working with reality consciously I think we can develop a greater, deeper and more mature relationship to ourselves and reality.

For that? That's just a fit build isn't it?

@mavelezm Well, what is cancer?

A side note, as I don’t believe these things can heal thyroid issues like we are discussing here. But, a general point. Placebo is a strong healing modality. Yes, the body naturally heals most things. But, placebo plays a role, and can aid healing. There is science and studies showing this. Being more relaxed, good energy circulation, and calm clear mind, positive intention… (meditation, reiki, prayer, dancing) can of course lead to healing and health. It’s a mindbody system that we are comprised of. Somatic practices like yoga, dance, etc are good for you. The body naturally heals, these modalities can aid in that natural healing process. By allowing the bodies system to harmonize and run more smoothly, your body may heal things. Many diseases may come from the body being out of balance, stress, etc. So, yes these things can play a role in healing many lifestyle created diseases by bringing more harmony into the system. This thyroid issues doesn’t sound like a lifestyle disease and likely requires more serious medical intervention. Knowing when to use what healing modality requires maturity and education. You can straw man these things, and of course point to fantasies in the healing space. But, there is of course healing and health benefits to meditation, dancing etc. But, these are complimentary, life style, preventative and maintenance type healing modalities. Calling them fantasies I think is false over generalization. Now, these general mind body cures don’t help with serious diseases like H. chatgpt: The conversation in the screenshot touches on two perspectives about self-healing, the body’s natural processes, and the attribution of healing to specific practices or beliefs. Here are some reflections: 1. The Role of Natural Healing: It’s true that the human body has remarkable self-healing capabilities, such as immune responses and cellular repair. Many conditions resolve on their own without specific interventions, which can lead to the perception that a particular practice or substance was responsible for the healing. 2. Placebo Effect and Belief: Belief in a healing method, whether it’s meditation, supplements, or other modalities, can activate the placebo effect. This doesn’t mean the method is ineffective; rather, the mind-body connection plays a significant role in outcomes, especially for conditions influenced by stress and perception. 3. Serious Disorders and Medical Intervention: While some conditions may improve through lifestyle changes or alternative methods, serious disorders often require rigorous medical intervention. Over-reliance on anecdotal evidence or unproven methods for severe illnesses can lead to harm. 4. Skepticism of “Healing Narratives”: The point about people attributing healing to specific practices without scientific analysis is valid. Many anecdotal claims are not rigorously tested, leading to misleading conclusions. However, dismissing all non-scientific approaches as “fantasies” may oversimplify the complex interplay between physiology, psychology, and belief systems. 5. Body’s Intent to Survive: The idea that the body inherently wants to survive aligns with evolutionary biology. However, autoimmunity and other conditions suggest that the body’s mechanisms can malfunction, challenging the view that the body “never attacks itself.” In conclusion, while the body’s natural healing ability is impressive, a balanced approach that combines medical science, psychological factors, and holistic practices can often be the most effective. Dismissing one perspective entirely may ignore valuable insights from another.

What I like about Chinese medicine is that it acknowledges that that body naturally heals itself. The techniques used in Chinese medicine are used to help guide and balance this natural self healing mechanism. Like, a gardener doesn’t grow the plants but by tending to the land, pruning weeds and watering them, etc… it helps the natural healing process of the body.

@Adam M What is MM?

Brendan Burchard is great. Love his app Growth Day.

Great tune! Especially the intro.

This is a great window my Oura ring provides. I need to improve my day time stress management. The data shows this. Also, I can use this to test with data to show effectiveness of relaxation techniques. As you can see I used one recently.

He said he was against him until it served his political goals. Notably trump is corrupt.

Haven’t tried this but looks interesting.

I generally listen to Actualized on YouTube not this app.

Sandy rocks

I have decided to reveal my true identity.

@Spiritual Warfare Okay, thanks for clarifying. I come to this conversation with some baggage I admit.

@Spiritual Warfare Part of our shared humanity is the distinctions among us. We all play unique roles in society. We are one, but we are also different. Same same but different.

That’s fine. But, I’m saying no. You can not tell us how to think and then tell us how to think. Sneaky sneaky. If you want to do that, that’s fine. And, likely a healthy mind can hold the perspective you share among other perspectives. Personally, men and women are useful categories because most men and women share enough pattern, and have a biological and social relationship where those categories are useful. I am wary of this extreme post modernist/ liberalism. Partly because people misuse it and demonize those who are cis gendered and choose to stand and express their opinions that there being men and women is normal and healthy. It’s normal and healthy to be born a man, and be a man, born a woman and be a woman. Are there exceptions that are also healthy? Sure. But, this idea of removing these labels I think is none-sense. What a man is, what a women is can be broad.

If false that mind and body are separate. They are a single whole. If you had the body of a dog or tree you’d think like a dog or tree. Humans are unique as they can express themselves very uniquely and create their own ideology, identity, illusions, stories etc. The vaste majority of people who are men or women, think like a man or a women and have tendencies that are biologically driven. There is of course social constructs involved in gender identity and roles. But, I think stage green/ liberal people get lost in their own illusion that gender and sex are completely independent. This isn’t to hate on anyone, but I have learned I can hold my ground and my own view in this. People who wanna demonize me because I see a world where most people are men and women, and that being normal and healthy as a problem are them confused. It’s a nuanced area of human understanding. I have respect for people of differing views. But, when they try to tell everyone to think in their twisted liberal fantasy i say no. I will not. I used to. But, after contemplating it I see it’s a delusion on the ego.

@Spiritual Warfare You can’t tell me what to do or how to think. I’m a man. Born a man. I’m attracted to women not people with a uterus.

Economists have sounded the alarm on what will happen to the US economy under trump. We will see.

Thanks Barrack

The cultivation of a highly functioning mindbody, systems for living and mental models can take years and decades. And, you likely have few quality role models.

Well Musk likes him - Who is Musk really? Well Joe Rogan likes him - Who is Rogan Really? Well Jordan Peterson Likes him - Who is Jordan Peterson really? Well Andrew Tate likes him - Who is Andrew Tate really? What is the actual quality of these individuals minds, psyches, education. What is the purity of their minds, intentions etc. What is their epistemology, metaphysics, science, their understanding of truth, self deception, etc… Self deception, ignorance, cognitive biases are plenty. Even, and honestly a lot of you guys on the forum are seriously fucking deceived. You should feel embarrassed. I think the vast majority of humans are swimming in such a pile of human dogshit, meaning their minds are built out of dog shit… Dog shit news sources Dog shit education systems Dog shit food and water sources Dog shit public intellectuals Dog shit religions Dog shit politicians People are swimming so deeply in this dog shit and they can’t see it. If they did they would puke and have an existential crisis. Who knows how chemically, and toxically warped minds and nervous systems are too. It’s crazy. The corruption is nearly total. People have no fucking clue how twisted western science, religion, materialism, food, etc actually is.

My own ignorance is upsetting as well. Especially for understanding Canadian Politics, and US Politics. How all these highly complex systems that these nations consist of work, all the moving pieces and players. As well, my own life systems, these must be brought into balance as well. It’s easy to judge leaders, countries, Politicians, thought leaders. Public intellectuals for their ignorance and disharmony. But, I must also see it in myself.