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Honestly, I don't know because I am just looking at text on a screen. I don't actually know any of you. @happyhappy Ah, be mindful here. There is talk for reparations being made as a lot of wrong was done to these people. Don't tell others to grow up. Especially in these contexts of massive systemic oppression this isn't an issue where people should just "grow up" and move on. There is still justice that has yet to happen. We need to be open to this discussion without putting others down.

This is probably a complicated issue where not everyone would agree. Segmentation is a natural part of marketing. Marketers naturally target their ideal clients using all the aspects that make them them and their race may be a part of that. Quote from this article I thought was insightful: https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-695487 In late 2020, the ADL changed its definition of racism to be “the marginalization and/or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges white people.” It also added that systemic racism is a “combination of systems, institutions and factors that advantage white people and for people of color, cause widespread harm and disadvantages in access and opportunity.” Seems a lot of people define racism as white peoples oppression of people of colour. Ethnocentrism is more general I think and can be applied to anyone.

@ChiLongQua @PurpleTree This is important feedback for our leader here. How can we lead and teach others when they feel attacked by us no matter how right we are. Like the guy who tried to convince doctors to wash their hands. He yelled, attacked and upset the doctors who refused to wash their hands and sick people died because of it for years. I say he is nuanced when you see him before he got rightfully triggered. There is no room for racism here guys. But, I get that people are coming from all angles and experiences. You are speaking to yourself here the on forum. We are all one being. Let's work on respecting our differences.

It's like saying "I am not racist I have black friends" We can have people who we love in certain categories like friends, sisters, family etc but still have beliefs that are toxic.... know what I mean? This is why this work is so fucking hard. We all have our mess, but do we see it?

Yeah in an ideal world white people would listen. But, people are immature, defensive and selfish. I am kind of blown away by some of the responses people provided. I'll take more time to read everything. To gain more context. When I first came in I think I just saw everyone including the OP name calling in this and other threads and thought... "This doesn't add up to me.. how can we ask for respect, but attack others?" But, I see thats not the case and we are far down the line and that the OP is actually pretty nuanced in their opinion. OP was getting ridiculous immature pushback. Let's cultivate a space for people to grow and mature. It's going to be emotionally difficult. Embrace that instead of blocking and demonizing one another. A major part of spiritual development is recognizing our own biases and seeing things from other peoples perspectives. We can't do that if we cling to our opinions and fight others. I don't live in the US but I to follow this stuff closely and I am always learning... It's really complex. I have much to learn.

I understand. I need to review the thread in more detail. There is no room for racism on this form. No, you should get points for saying racist things... you can't spread hate here. You make a racist post you should be banned or warned.

Yes. There is no room for racism here or anywhere else. I expect better from this forum as I see it as a place to spread and cultivate universal love. I didn't read thoroughly through all the threads I just saw everyone name calling everyone else.

@Cocolove So far so good. You shouldn't take it more than 3 times a week.

It's obvious to anyone with a heart that Joe Rogan shouldn't be using that word. I am interested in learning more about other peoples perspectives. I want to calm down the warzone. People need to hear the OP. Let's cut out the name calling and attacking.

It's a tough call. People need to be given the right to be heard, to educate others. But, there needs to be a recognition of respect and intent. I can't tell the intent of the OP or others on the thread. Everyone seems to be fighting with everyone else. I'd rather see some real discussion, learning, sharing, acknowledging, apologizing, etc... But, just like everyone on the internet people wanna fight, name call etc because its all we know how to do right now. That is fine. We are scared, defensive and hurt. We are a family, so we can work through this I think. Signs that things are not going well on a thread for me are: 1. Name Calling 2. Putting other people down for their inadequacies 3. Personal Attacks 4. People making wide sweeping statements about other groups of people based on aspects of their being they can't change 5. People not listening to one another 6. Anger, hatred, fear, jealousy. 7. Attacking and overgeneralizing everyone on the forum ( not recognizing and respecting the complexity and diversity of those who come here) 8. Wanting to hold other people accountable for your perceived hatred in them, but not noticing in yourself. I feel scared even posting anything on this thread. But, Racism, ethnocentricity are important issues here and we need to cultivate a space for these voices to be heard. But it doesn't work if we treat our threads like war zones. Nobody likes being called names, not being heard, being attacked, etc.. People will naturally defend themselves. Doesn't mean they hate you, just means they are human and rightfully defending themselves. When we are in a low vibrational state (anger, fear, hatred, distrust) we project it and see it in everything and everyone. EVERYONE on this thread. Let's work things out. Not spread more fear and hatred. I refuse to pick a side in this though because everyone. EVERYONE. Needs to have these conversations if we are going to cultivate safe communities. Let's spread love. Intelligently.

It's okay if you want to insult me. I know who I am. I know I love everyone. Don't need it to be reflected back at me.

@bejapuskas Are you sure? Seems like a lot of putting others down going around here. Seems uncalled for. Everyone just seems scared, angry, upset and defensive from both lines This is a personal development forum so, it shouldn't be a surprise that imperfect people struggling to understand things and grow are here. The whole world is incredibly imperfect. Welcome to earth 2022. "These people here only understand their left hand and lube." Why? Why are we putting other people down? What does this have to do with Joe Rogan, or defending human rights? How can we ask for respect from others and not share in respecting others? We all have to come together eventually. Everyone is scared, wants to be right, to feel respected, to feel loved and safe in their communities. Lets create a safe community here on the forum. People need to be listened to. Remember, if we are attacking one another we are contributing to a toxic culture here. Let's avoid that. I love you folks. See you on the other side.

I feel bad for anyone with hate or prejudice in their heart. To think you are better than another.... instead of wanting to love and build a safe world for everyone. Sad.

Watch this often

3 seems to be my number I don't believe it just see the fox

Just notice how good and bad things happen regardless of a limited things bias. All finite beings want to survive and have their biases appealed to. However, notice how many times the universe does not meet your bias and you suffer. Why? Because God does not have your biases. You do. Because, though the universe includes your limited bias, its not solely biased towards it. God, includes and transcends your biases. For example, whatever happens its Gods Will. It's God's will when your biases are not appealed to as even when they are appealed to. God loves whatever is the case. God loves and is biased towards the whole, which means not being biased towards just you.

@PurpleTree Are you saying like.. if they didn't feel inferior they wouldn't need to try to make themselves seem superior?

So far I like it. I definitely notice a difference but need a few month months to really tell you what I notice that chances.

So live or die it doesn't matter then hey

@mememe Yeah, It's complicated

neti neti?

She was definitely coming from love with what she was saying. She’s not canceled just taking a little time out it seems. How people define ‘race’ or use the word ‘race’ can be a bit subjective and we should as a society be patient with people in these circumstances. Maybe she meant skin colour. The Jewish People are a race of people. The Holocaust happened. It’s very Important. what’s sad is a lot of people don’t even know about it…

People get canceled on principle not on political leaning… It’s only 2 weeks. seems like she thought they were a group of people or a religious group and not ‘race’ as in skin colour. But, Jews are a race of people. she said it was a problem of ‘mans inhumanity to man’ which was true. But it was still about race. People also make mistakes with this sort of Language all the time. Even our man here.

These are YOUR biases