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@Carl-Richard what are you main take always from what he is saying that supports you tittle?

1. How would you define ego? 2. Yes, that is a good point that I am everything in my experience. However, am I not still relating to the perceived “external world” and even my “internal world” through my egoic filter while in a normal sober state? 3. Yes, there is an illusion or filter that I am placing on everything around me. That’s an aspect of ego in my mind. It’s an illusion, but isn’t it an illusion that exists? And there are substances and practices that alter and lower this illusion correct? 4. Yes, I agree that these thoughts keep me from being insane and act as survival function. 5. ive never heard anyone including raw sensory data (smell, sounds, touch) etc as ego. Why would raw sensory experience be ego?

@vladorion But how do you come to understand what consciousness is? Also, how do you come do understand what gold is? Do you know what Gold is? What is Gold? Or atoms? are you familiar with the concept “structure vs content”? How do you know that different states aren’t structurally different, not just different in the content. How do you know there aren’t states that are structurally different that allow you to understand consciousness better than other structures? My understanding of gold may even change with different states. So hmm I think that makes it tricky.

I don’t think Gold and consciousness can be compared symmetrically. I think there is an asymmetry between them. Mostly because… when in one state (sober) for many years, after smoking some DMT my understanding of consciousness greatly changed. But, I’m also curious. If explore different states of consciousness don’t help you understand it than what does? Being it? Then why so many conscious beings not understand it?

how do you know this? @Hojo

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“There’s safety in the end” - Bon Iver (Heavenly Father)

Read 5-10 books on everything finance over the next 1-3 years

@Bobby_2021 as long as you are human anyway

Why would God care how you die when he doesn’t care how you live? Look at all the fucked up shit in reality. He clearly loves it all.

@Tyler RobinsonI like you ahaha Just because I’ve argued with you doesn’t mean I don’t like you. People are complex

Definitely. The best thing though is not deepen any potential conflict. He’s already sort of paranoid about them. Just, really has to do it in a chill, calm, confident and friendly way. Setting boundaries I think should be done in a cool confident way.

@Gabith Focus on being calm, cool, quiet and professional as well. People don’t know you or care about you. Just be chill, don’t need anyone to treat you anyway. Definitely don’t call people perverts or whatever. If people are making you uncomfortable in this way speak to a teacher.

@peebz The problem is that he has to spend a lot of time with them. He’s best off trying to mitigate any worsening of a toxic school environment. He simply needs to shut up about himself. Take more interest in them/ just focus on his schooling. He may need to talk to a teacher and create space between them and himself. Saying less is a golden rule of work and school. Don’t make it worse by fighting them. say less, relax about it. Be kind. People change over time.

Simply start seeing other people as facts of nature like trees or rocks. Don’t go about trying to get people into personal development who are friends or relatives.

@Gabith Vernon Howard talks a lot about this. Pathways to perfect living is a good book on this. Dealing with sleepy people is challenging. Simply, become an apprentice of human nature. Look to understand them. People are Good. But, they are also selfish, petty, envious, short sighted, opinionated etc. Masculine love means creating boundaries, not giving a shit about assholes and dealing with these types of people skillfully. Not everyone is gonna be your “friend” or “buddy”. People want YOU to listen more about them. Take interest in them. Say less about you. People will love you for it.

@Gabith The book “The Laws of Human Nature” has a good on jealousy and why it’s best to just say less. You can be present and loving still. Don’t stop that. Just, say less.

I’d say, focus on your school work and say less about yourself. Say less, show off less and focus on the school work. It’s often best in life to not show yourself fullly to people at school or work. No one knows you, no one needs to know you. Be kind and professional. Then, allow your understanding of them to unfold over time.

@Galyna yes, I’ll reply in a bit

@Galyna I think the roles can be played out mutually. We can both as questions to deeper understanding of each others words, experiences etc You seem to be in a teacher role atm, wanna start there?

@Galyna hey, I am very interested in this topic. Could we use the Socratic method going forward? Let me know if we can discuss that for a few responses before we go about discussing ego.

I’d like some examples

No I’m saying the opposite hehe, I’m a Qigong teacher don’t forget I can understand why you assumed that though. All good.

@Leo Gura that’s it 100 respawns

@Galyna but if I kill my ego suffering ends If I kill my body and my ego I’m pretty sure it ends and s just love