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@AsafTheMagniv Yes, but in terms of total awakening… your survival is this mask or game you are playing as a human. You are not a human. You are God. But, you are playing human. This is fine. Awakening and God realization is a domain of reality that transcends survival. There are aspects of awakening which can help improve life. But, also many aspects which are useless. You have to want to pursue truth for its own sake. Yes, in many ways as a human I am working on my life. But, I know that this is just a game I am playing and awakening as Leo describes it is beyond the human and has more to do with raw consciousness and God realization.

@AsafTheMagniv No, awakening has nothing to do with survival. I some ways, developing insight, more consciousness, more emotional mastery, clarity, sober mindedness, clear seeing, etc are all great. But, there are degrees of awakening that transcend all this… that are timeless. Impossible to imagine.

@AsafTheMagniv Maybe Not sure awakening really has anything to do with improvement I don’t think you know what enlightenment and awakening is. I think it goes well beyond these Buddhist ideas of awakening, or whatever. It goes beyond human existence, time, space, the idea of others and even service. I pro improving my life. But, I sense there are degrees of awakening which are not imaginable for many in the forum. Some of which I have experienced. There is no improvement in these states.

No, none of those dualities are "what this place is caught up in" that is such a gross over simplification. God Vs Ego? Truth Vs lie? Etc How is that anything to do with what we are talking bout here? I mean they are tangentially. But, we aren't here spouting dualities off one another.

@Frosty97 Sure

@UpperMaster It doesn’t matter what I think. I think most of Leo’s principles and insights are pretty powerful. But, you also have to be thinking for yourself. So, it’s good to listen, you’ll have more requisite variety with regards ti theory. Ideas will change over time, what is useless today maybe useful tomorrow. It’s unlikely people will agree with him on everything because we all have different life experiences, tastes, levels of development etc. It’s a good sign when you don’t agree with everything a teacher says

Trust your own conclusions, see what results they bring.

No

I feel uncomfortable. I don’t want to pose or pretend. I don’t want your approval. I don’t want your love, whatever that is. None of you know me, none of you love me. I am here to love reality. I am here to awaken. To create. I am building my life and understanding of reality. I am not interested in being stock in an dogma, cult, religion, or spiritual system. I want to cut through the bullshit and know. I don’t care if you think I am ignorant, I don’t care if you think I am a fool. I don’t care what Leo thinks of me. I just want to awaken.

I’d rather be in a state of not knowing than know. I do not care what anyone on this forum thinks. I see what people post. If you want to develop the highest possible understanding of reality, you need to embrace how little you know. How many ideas you have that are wrong, partial, corrupt and unquestioned. Even Leo, question him. Consume him, question him, awaken beyond him.

@Leo Gura I don’t know Anyway, not a good time. Post later I need more trips, and more hours of deriving this stuff for myself. Leo has shown me a lot, but I need more hours of contemplation and direct experience. I have a experienced things that would probably emotionally disturb half the forum or more…

I am look at reality for the first time I don’t what what it is but, I am here now.

@Leo Gura Hm I don’t want to play a game with you. I don’t know. You have provided the tools and techniques. I have watched all your videos. Am doing the things. I don’t believe I am too stupid to do this. Though, I know I am stupid. I will awaken.

You know what Leo? Lead me to the truth. I am totally fine being called an idiot. I am totally fine being told I am wrong, or in falsehood. Ive been searching for truth long before I found Leo. Won’t be stopping at some name calling or perceived impatience on Leo’s part. If anyone is going to awaken it’s me. Do you believe you can guide me there? Provide the tools, or whatever is required.

Kill the Buddha, kill all teachers, meaning keep moving forward. Actually awaken.

@ZGROPIUS He is pointing to something outside all this

@Leo Gura Interesting. Well, I don’t know anything. I am willing to awaken. Don’t go killing yourself until I do. What about “Jed”

What does that have to do with your title?

@Mips not really sort of

Wasn’t he Canadian too which is weirder

Leo’s recent episode reminds me of a class I took where I was taught about the cognition of insight. Will review but thought I’d leave this book here. Book About Bernard Lonergan https://iep.utm.edu/lonergan/

I struggle a bit with this idea, seems to be the same reality with relatively different content. This changing content with an imagination of previously different content seems to be what constructs a seeming consistent reality

I’ve had a few moments

@Holykael have you heard of Byron Katie’s work?

This first album was a great experience. I learned a lot. I am currently slowly working in a second. I did organize a second prior but Covid happened. So waited and went back to school, studied Qigong etc But, I’m setting the plan to start recording again. I’ve realize I don’t care if people listen to my music, but that creating these emotions and states was part of my spirituality. For me this album is very ecstatic and deep, despite some problems with the mix, recording and performance. But, I know I have it in me to create an incredible indie folk album that the world has never heard the likes of before.