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Seems you can create a course, start working with people one on one. You may want to take a short coaching program, and invest in some reasonable online marketing courses or free online courses. You can work with people one on one, or do group coaching. Define your target ideal client, master serving that niche. There’s a lot here. So, study and research. Don’t let some marketing course take all your money though ? My marketing course was expensive… however, I now have access to very power tools, website/ funnel builder/ automated emails… all in one tool, etc coaches, etc. What I payed for mine and the value I have.. is pretty amazing honestly. I can build a business. It will take time. I know how to build a funnel, make webinars, ads, how to create a before and after document, avatar research, offer skeleton, how to build out a course, basics of sales, etc… all will take time to master.

I’m trying. I am willing to self reflect and improve. I know my values even if I sometimes slip up.

@Raptorsin7 Yes, and we are all hypocrites and devils learning how to love. I love Tate as myself. However, personally I don’t value someone who runs webcam businesses as a teacher and has evidence that suggests he does the crimes he does. I want a strong, masculine, fine powerful man to show me the way. To make me feel good, happy and confident. But, not at the expense of young men and women. I see your potential to be a fine man. I believe in you. Because we are all devils, we can be a bit more compassionate with ourselves and others as we make our way toward higher levels of growth.

@Raptorsin7 Yeah, we are all hypocrites and devils. Welcome to the club. Welcome to humanity at this stage in our development. We are all trying to become more conscious and loving. Growth takes time, embodiment takes time. To lead and share the information Leo shares is to surely put oneself in the position of being a hypocrite. But, I see him trying his best. Many of us here are.

Hey guys, raptor is very triggered. There won’t be much use in speaking to him. In this state he will only speak poison to anything that seems to attack his feeling of self and ego. Might as well leave him be. When you really love something it’s painful to admit that there could be reasonable criticism against it. A good sign is when you can look at both the bad and the good of a teacher or situation. If you are resorting to insulting others it’s pretty obvious you are hiding something from yourself. You want to fight and blame others because, to see you own BS is painful.

@Raptorsin7 Sorry for cursing btw. Well, I’m painfully aware of my foolishness. However, as a general rule fools tend to not think of themselves as fools. Sorry mods!

Okay last post, promise. What kind of retreat? What real work? Forget, Leo honestly. He is trying to teach you to be your own man, realize you are God and to live the best life. Who gives a shit. You come to a teachers forum and expect him not to teach? It’s not about Leo for me… but consuming all resources. I feel like I get a lot of different perspectives, teachers, books, practices and tools for direct insight here.

@Raptorsin7 Leo teaches life purpose, integrity, big picture thinking, contemplation, proper use of mind expanded substances, meditation, high conscious business, Truth, What is God?, epistemology, understanding good and evil, how to love, self inquiry, self deception, love, healthy pick up… Tate teaches young men to treat women like shit, how to traffic them, how to be a selfish cocky asshole, etc… jeez man. Okay, last post for the night. Best wishes to all!

@something_else Leo gets criticized constantly on here ahaha. I give him a hard time.

@Raptorsin7 Yeah, what’s this personal development forum all about? If it’s so bad, why you here?

@Raptorsin7 Leo does not push suicidal beliefs on people. That’s retarded. He promotes living the best life! Leo’s work is just deep and nuanced. The thing is, culture and young minds have so much other factors involved in their mental health. Blaming Leo is sort of silly. Though, yes, this work of awakening is dangerous. There’s nothing wrong with a girl doing porn if she chooses. However, Tate’s situation seems to be different. Like holding these girls against their will and taking half their earnings.

@Raptorsin7 I personally think, that over time as you mature you will make finer distinctions between Andrew and Leo. Right now it’s confusing and difficult. It’s hard because you love Tate a lot and it seems we are demonizing him. No, we aren’t demonizing. We have values of behaviour we think can be dangerous in society. That includes rape, abusing women, grooming young teens, selling drugs, trafficking women, hustling/ scamming men. It’s not Tate, but these actions. Leo refuses to sleep with sloppy drunk girls, admits he didn’t sleep with a super drunk girl which many guys like Tate would… and, if Leo is found a crimes we would want to hold him accountable as well.

@Raptorsin7 There’s 16 year old girls coming forth with screen shots of his messages.

@Raptorsin7 Okay, demonstrate away

@petar8p “I didn’t do it” - criminal ahaha, obviously the law will decide

The thing is, many of us here are very uneducated and undeveloped. I am beginning to see this.

@Raptorsin7 Because he is a rapist, criminal, sex trafficking hustler. Don’t need to be spiritual to see why we have problems with him.

@Raptorsin7 Why do you love him?

OP also has an image and quote from Epstein?

@Danioover9000 he doesn’t really say a lot about Tate but his own views and a few things Tate said. There’s more going on than that. He’s a human, he’s charismatic and ‘smart’. Yeah, you can pull a few good things… The criminal lost faith in the government? The criminal had daddy issues? Man, people…

Sameness vs difference. Make your own distinctions.

A lot of the guilt instilled in men is BECAUSE they abuse their power and sexual power. Then, Tate comes along and is so proud of it… all these devils can take pride in their devilry. Sorry, but that’s not what young men need. There is an unfortunate trauma being caused in young men. They are carrying the fear and guilt because many of their hero’s were financially and sexually abusive. This is leaving a void and gap for young men who don’t know where to turn. Many hero’s are dying in the light of their fans. Abuse is omnipresent in our society. To a sick society, telling darkness from light is hard. They invert and we can’t see the difference. We don’t have a good sense of the value of things as young men, and we don’t know what healthy goals are nor do we know how to get them. We want to be tough and masculine, yet we wanna make this idiot Tate a hero? That’s retarded. Be a real man, be a man of honour, wisdom and intelligence. Young men don’t have high quality men to guide them. They are also average people who want quick and easy luxury and success. Tate sells you fools gold, and you are all too happy to defend him for it. I know it’s painful… anyway.

@bloomer I wonder what nuggets of truth are there. Look, I am pro taking nuggets of gold from everyone. You can learn things from hitler, Donald trump, Tate etc… but, don’t cling or stop here. That’s my view.

@bloomer Yea, men of today have needed a charismatic sex trafficking rapist conman. I complete agree. Forget a charismatic man of integrity , charity and higher values. That’s for fucking idiots. The impact on culture is hard to measure for sure. Depends on what people see of Tate, who they think he is and their projections in him etc. seeing a confident funny man, yeah can be helpful in the surface for men caught in constant fear, guilt and shame generated in our culture right now. But, we definitely can do better than Tate. I hope soon, this becomes apparent. If all it takes is for someone to make you feel good for you to like that… that is pretty shallow. It’s, “yeah, I still like heroine… I know it’s addictive and killing me and others but it feels good”

Here is a great talk about trauma and illness in our culture. The book itself contains many clues around why certain public intellectuals do so well, why there is so much addiction and mental illness in our culture. There is also a lot of great discussion around the mind body connection and illness. He also talks about oneness of all beings. He also discusses the difficulties and ignorance of modern medicine and how it ignores how trauma and emotions affect healing and illness. He talks about how discussing these these can end doctors careers so they either don’t practice what they know works or hide their practices from colleagues. I’ve included this song because of its lyrical and emotional content. ————— Chained To the wall of our room Yeah, you chained me like a dog in our room I-I-I-I-I-I-I thought that's how it was I thought that we were fine Then the day was night You were high You were high When I was Doomed And dying for With no light (no light) With no light Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Mah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Mah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Ma-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Mah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Mah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Mah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Tied to my bed I was younger then I had nothing to spend But time on you But it made me love It made me love It made me Love more It made me love It made me love It made me Love more Uh, oh, oh-oh It made love More Do what she said The words she said left out Over unto the sky where I'll soon fly And she took the time To believe in To believe in What she said and Love She made me love She made me love She made me Love more She made me love She made me love She made me Love more Love more Love more (made me love) Love more (she made me love) Love more