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Wouldn’t healing the brain be affecting it? What is the issue you’re experiencing?

Yeah this sounds pretty familiar lol. It’s just more and more depth. Momentum keeps going to essentially exponentially stronger levels. I’ll have to examine it from the “vault of beliefs” perspective and see how this impacts things.

I’m just curious when all these shifts slow down. Did you notice a point where it basically reached a “baseline” which continued on rather unperturbed? Or are new facets/“perceptual” upgrades/whatever we want to call them still getting revealed to you regularly?

You’re welcome Vibroverse self.

Edibles are simply the form that most people seem to report a psychedelic effect with. There are a number of people who experience psychedelic effects when smoking, vaping, etc. Smoking concentrated THC is the most psychedelic form for me. $5-$10 of dabs (concentrated THC) was 100x more potent in one instance for me than 6 grams of shrooms or 10 tabs of LSD were (not suggesting anyone use those amounts, just giving my data). I know I’m an odd case though. This was also only on one instance where it was in that 100x more potent category. THC in stronger forms like that is rather unpredictable how powerful it will be for me. Oftentimes smoking concentrated THC is comparable to one of those high dose serotonergic trips or sometimes maybe 5x stronger. This variance of 1x to 5x to 100x is from the same batch. It’s not a question of “was this laced on the stronger experience?” The chemical itself was the exact same. Be careful for when the Divine selects your trip to randomly blast you past all previously experienced possibilities seemingly without rhyme or reason which can be known to you in any reliable way. The great news is, for me at least, dabs or edibles are the safest during trip and off trip compared to those other substances listed above for me personally.

The switch happened maybe 10 years after starting to use cannabis. So I’ve only had 1.5 years at this new effectiveness. High dose trips (be careful anyone reading, of course, follow strong safety protocols) on serotonergic psychedelics would probably be the best thing that would be transferable advice on how to do it for yourself. It seems to be how it occurred for others. Maybe really intense meditation awakenings could also cause the switch to some degree. Realistically, we’re probably talking about having experiences which alter how your brain processes these mind-altering chemicals to make them more psychoactive. Psychedelics are probably the way this is happening in all the cases I’ve found this happening. Also, it continues to get more effective. It overcomes the effects of tolerance. Most people who consume THC notice huge drop offs in effectiveness from tolerance. Around the time I start running into tolerance issues, without fail for the past year, I will have a huge trip from a low dose and be upgraded from that point forward. I basically call this the divine chemical upgrade or something like that lol. It’s quite humorous. Also, my huge shifts in baseline consciousness have an effect on the effectiveness too, so this is another thing to consider. It’s a feedback loop. THC raises baseline even when completely sober, higher baseline raises effects of THC.

Ayahuasca did it for me, and this was a way worse fear than spiders for you I’d be willing to wager.

THC is a better psychedelic for me than any others I’ve tried. I’m biased because it works quite differently for me than most people, but I’m sure a good number of people serious about this work will find similar things for themselves if they gave it a shot in this way. I say this because I’ve seen a number of people report the effect I’m talking about, just at a somewhat reduced effectiveness. Once you break a certain barrier, it turns from a counterproductive drug which causes munchies and laziness to huge awakenings which can be experienced much more frequently than using typical psychedelics. Of course, most will need to use higher dose edibles or concentrated THC (dabs) to get the effects I’m referring to, but it’s worth it. It’s much more sustainable and healthier than using other psychedelics being used at the same rate. Something amazing can happen for your spiritual growth when you can be regularly entering strong spiritual states on a daily basis or almost daily basis. It’s a cumulative growth. Increasing the frequency of being in ultra-high states of consciousness can make your progress curve become like an asymptote pointed straight up rather than like the graph of an S&P 500 stock growing slowly. I don’t know of any safe chemical/psychedelic options to try to achieve this with other than THC. Serotonergic psychedelics simply cannot be used often enough in a sustainable way to reach what I’m talking about. You’ll burn yourself the fuck out. Regularly using THC for spiritual growth is one of the greatest factors which triggered immense growth for myself in the Theravada Buddhist four path model and stages of insight process which is almost always seen as something accessed through meditative practice (at least to the degree I’ve progressed in it) alone. This progress remains in completely sober states. This approach probably only works well for maybe 10% of serious seekers, but I share it because it’s truly life changing stuff for those it can work for. Obviously stop trying it if it doesn’t seem like you’re getting similar positive effects or it’s causing overall negative effects on your life. If you try this, make sure to experiment with high quality delta 8 and delta 10 THC as well as other forms of consuming it (tincture, vaping, smoking regular bud, and so on). Feel free to test any high quality products of other THC types that you find. Delta 8 and delta 10 seem have some very useful characteristics to them above delta 9 THC. Don’t keep yourself locked down on one variant.

The ego is as much emptiness as anything else. It’s just patterns of sensations which are ever changing. No problem having an ego. Ego sensations remain after awakening. You just understand what they are and see through the “illusion” of solidity to the ego. You also can’t have “seeing through the illusion” without an “illusion,” so there’s no reason to go hating the fact that there is an “illusion.” Everything else is just as illusory as an ego. The idea you need to rip out some thing called an ego and that’s the solution is mainly a thing spread by newbies in spirituality who haven’t gone through the intricacy that the process being pointed to in that kind of speaking/thinking/theorizing involves.

I mean if you want to twist it to your nondual agenda, then yes. You are absolutely correct, and you are not doing anything related to how religious people interpret things ?

@WokeBloke go see the discussion between @Fearless_Bum and I on the last couple pages of this thread It covers some more intricacies of this question.

There has to be some basis of perceptual difference for people to even make the thought-based distinctions though. You might reject this idea possibly by bringing up theoretical distinctions which are more or less “fully” created in thought alone, but I come at this seeing thought itself as just a sixth sense door. I think you agreed earlier that thought was the same infinite intelligence as everything else or something by a similar name. You probably get the idea. I know you’re pretty familiar/experienced with the nonduality stuff. I’m just pointing back to duality because integrating the two has been of a lot of value for me, and I was just sharing in case someone here might be interested in contemplating “further” into this. No need to go back and forth on the perceptual difference topic between you and I though. I think we’ve essentially said what was needed at this point.

The hug circle is a great improvement. I hope everyone keeps being willing to participate. I think micro-dosing will help you potentially more than big dose trips for now. Having a healthy integration of stage red doesn’t mean using it often necessarily. In a lot of cases, the more you go up the spiral, the less need you’ll have for it. Regardless, never build up an identity of always being averse to stage red.

There is a key difference between 0 distinctions on the level of thought, language, or other symbolic overlay vs. 0 distinctions in perception. I am referring to 0 distinctions in perception. All experience relies on distinctions in perception. When there are no distinctions at all you reach cessation. There is no “what is.” You can have no thought, no person, no word response and all of what you’re pointing to so far and there still be perceptual distinctions. Perceptual distinctions can still occur at the level in which no functioning of the mind, human organism (which doesn’t even exist in this state), etc. is even possible. If you think you’re having 0 distinctions while you can drink a cup of coffee, this is infinitely more distinction than what I’m talking about which was still experiential. Just for clarification, this paragraph is not referring to cessation.

I’ve noticed people use this word in very conflicting ways. For example, this video describes samadhi very differently than I see most people using it:

I don’t think it’s at all the same as enlightenment, but they are positively correlated of course. I’m glad you tied it to Samatha. I just realized I completely read over that connection. I always thought Samatha = concentration, which it does, but it also means training in samadhi. I guess it’s all essentially the same just with varying depths.

But do you see the oftentimes tear-jerking perfection in each one of them the whole time? It’s hard to get there and harder to stay there, but it’s a great goal to have. Glad to see you’re treating them with love. Love disarms without any need for conflict.

Sensory experience is built upon difference/duality. Lack of food > Hunger > Seek food > Eat food > Lack of hunger If “reality” is not also dualistic, how is language dualistic? Is language not “reality”? Creating language, thought, anything a human ever does is just as much a response to sensory experience as burning your hand and pulling it back from the fire. Seems as if you’re creating a duality between your reported accurate experience of reality and other things which are ultimately just that very same reality. Nonduality and duality are ultimately the same. You don’t get one appearance without the other. 0=1. People seem to be falling in love with the = and forgetting the entire role of 0 and 1 which allowed them to ever reach =. I’m just telling you guys from personal experience: insight into the whole equation takes you far deeper than getting caught up on one part of the equation.

One observer is essentially what I was pointing to. Just different ways of saying the same thing. I say singular perspective because it includes experiences beyond the observer/observed duality. There are not multiple perspectives at a single moment in time.

Dhammarato has a much different approach than what I’ve learned from watching people associated with western Buddhism. It is called the Supra-mundane dhamma, and it was developed by his main teacher/master who he learned from. He roughly claims or suggests that enlightenment is not a permanent shift as many people describe it to be. He has very different criteria to evaluate progress than what is taught in the book Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha which I have used as a manual for expanding my practice following my first encounters with cessation at the beginning of this summer. Before this, I hadn’t made any attempts to dive too deeply into Buddhist practice specifically as I was focused on other methods. His method is more focused on moment-to-moment replacement of unwholesome thoughts with wholesome thoughts and putting the mind in a joyful state intentionally. This has made meditation a lot easier for me. It’s roughly just as effective as other types of meditation from what I’ve noticed, but there isn’t as much resistance. If you’re struggling to meditate or meditate as long/often as you want to, I think you could gain some things from watching this talk, especially the last 2/3 or half of the video as this is when he gets more into his technique and direct advice. His technique is a far simpler approach than many I’ve found which has a lot of advantages to it. If you wish to start having coaching with Dhammarato, you can contact him on Skype at the username Dhammaratog. Call him between 10 am and 4 pm Thai time.

My favorite is when you enter the marketplace and get your nails done and a pedicure. #feelsgoodman

Consciousness is always a singular perspective.

There is no experiencer separate from content. That separation is mentally constructed and somewhat arbitrary. Getting to separate the two is still a regular point on the path and a useful place to get to. Just knows there’s more.

Yeah it’s empty. Fine enough perception can get you to the point of being in one collapsed instant where perception is occurring before things even arise from my experience. Really trippy. The content is always moving, and the present moment is just more content. It’s not a solid ground or container separate from content.