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The Midnight Gospel on Netflix is likely the best actual TV show you’ll find for these topics. There are likely some good movies, but I’m not aware of many other than The Fountain which is loosely related, mostly to impermanence. It’s a good one to watch though for sure.

Your consciousness will forever be alone, and this world and all its inhabitants is a dream, including your ego, body, and mind. The reality is that you as consciousness have created this dream. Do the best you can to enjoy the dream and help your dream character as well as other dream characters. This will be the most enjoyable and sustainable path, at least within this dream. Love means realizing you as consciousness have created your human self and all other beings. As the source of creation, it would be wise to treat your creation well if you wish to experience harmony.

@Vibroverse I agree. I should’ve made it clear in the initial post that I’m talking about solipsism from the point of consciousness being the self in the definition of “self alone/alone self” rather than the ego being the self instead of waiting until later posts to clarify this.

@Inliytened1 This isn’t backtracking, at least not in how I meant it. I didn’t clarify enough immediately in that same sentence, but it was covered in detail in other parts of the writing, mainly near the end. What I meant by that statement is that you can never know if the person sitting across from you has a “separate” consciousness from you. The idea of separate consciousnesses or partitions of consciousness can never be verified as they will always be perceived from the same thing that perceives your human body, ego, etc. Ultimately in the process of perceiving things from their (human) vantage point, if this is indeed possible, this would originate from the same source as you (consciousness) which aligns with everything you’re saying.

@oMarcos Thinking your mother is dreaming herself from the same source will forever be unprovable unless you recognize that capital Y You is the consciousness that is dreaming lowercase y you. Is this the source you’re speaking of, or are you acknowledging belief in the existence of a source other than “your” consciousness. Your is in quotes because ultimately you don’t have consciousness; consciousness has you. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that belief. I’m just trying to understand where you’re going with this. People claiming past lives have only witnessed or seen evidence for those past lives through their own consciousness. The existence of past lives ultimately is no proof that there is a consciousness other than yours. It’s all viewed from one perspective always - your consciousness. Yes, I’ve never seen him flatly say “I don’t have beliefs,” yet he regularly says that his most important insights are not beliefs. Maybe he will admit to have a belief that there’s toilet paper in his bathroom when he isn’t present, but the things that seemingly matter most to him such as Love being the framework (maybe framework isn’t the most fitting word - I can’t think of a better one atm) of the Universe he claims are not beliefs. I already see it this way. You just put it into words, so why are you claiming it can’t be put into words? Sure, words never do direct consciousness justice, but they can be useful signposts. We’re both likely aware that the map is not the territory, but we are also aware that a map can do a good job pointing out important aspects of a given territory to a limited degree. To understand more completely what I’m really getting at when I’m talking about solipsism, read this that I wrote: “When you go to sleep at night, you often find yourself in dreams. In these dreams, most people will still have a human body. In waking reality, there is an unsubstantiated claim or story given by people that consciousness is somehow generated by the brain. The experts aren’t so sure, or at least they don’t have any solid evidence. Look up the “hard problem of consciousness” to understand how this is unsubstantiated. In the dream, you typically do not think along the same lines. If you were to lucid dream, you would certainly not think you were the dream body or somehow generated by the brain in your dream head. I say you, but I need to clarify exactly who you are. You are consciousness. Consciousness is the only constant you can find in all realities. In the dream, you are literally everything perceived in the dream. It’s all generated by your consciousness. We understand fully that everything created in our dreams comes entirely from us and is an extension of us. Surprisingly enough, there’s no solid argument against this being exactly the same case in waking reality. Your brain, body, and mind are all generated by consciousness in the same fashion consciousness generates the entire reality in dreams. Beyond your mind, body, and brain, you as consciousness generate this entire reality. This entire reality IS consciousness and nothing else. It’s the same way in a dream nothing is separate from you as consciousness. You as consciousness are the sole source for everything in the dream. No one thinks everyone in their dreams are conscious, separate entities once they’ve come back to the waking state. It’s the same in this reality. There’s absolutely no way you can actually be shown something outside of your consciousness. There will never ever be proof that other beings are conscious separately or outside of your consciousness. Even if you merged consciousness with another being in the waking state as a way to somehow prove the existence of another consciousness, guess what it would be? It would be fully engulfed in exactly one thing: you as consciousness or otherwise put your consciousness. You are the source of everything that exists in your consciousness, and your consciousness is the entirety of your universe and always will be. Nothing can ever exist outside of your consciousness. Existence relies completely on perception and consciousness to even be relevant. What is the difference between a fairytale land in a book, the black void people typically conceive of as nothingness or nonexistence, and a reality you imagine exists like heaven? They’re all just imagination. The only thing that’s real is what you can experience in this very moment. As soon as something exits consciousness, it exits existence. There’s no proof for something existing outside of consciousness, and there never will be because the most fundamental building block in any proof is, you guessed it, consciousness. Before using reason or logic or any other conceptual tool to prove something you use precisely one thing first: consciousness. Even if you and I are both conscious entities, we live in completely different “universes of consciousness.” Precisely, that is to say that one consciousness can never be shown another consciousness to exist without perceiving the other consciousness through the lens of the original consciousness. As soon as one consciousness comes into the other, the secondary consciousness immediately becomes an aspect of the primary consciousness. So if you were to completely merge your consciousness with mine, your consciousness would be held within my consciousness, and it would be the same for you if the process were done from your perspective. This is a clear mechanic of consciousness. We can never know if the person sitting across the lunch table from us is conscious. We can only assume one way or the other. Anything imagined to be separate from the perspective of the original consciousness will always just be one more aspect of the original consciousness. In this way, we are entirely alone as consciousness. We are not alone as human beings. There are plenty of humans walking around. You can clearly perceive that, but by the very nature of perception, consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness without it immediately becoming another aspect of itself. Consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness as some sort of separate thing. Once the “other” consciousness is viewed, it only exists as long as it is in contact with the primary consciousness - the point of perception, and it is only truly the primary consciousness the entire time. In this way, you can never truly share space with another consciousness. You cannot perceive another consciousness. Anything you perceive is just you. You are consciousness. Everything is you. Everything is consciousness. It will be this way for eternity. You as consciousness will likely visit innumerable dreamt up worlds that you’ve created. You’ll perceive yourself as some kind of avatar or character as far as we can tell. You’ll at first see all the rest of the characters in your dreamt up creation as separate from you, but in truth those dream characters are just as much you as your primary character is. They’re just characters held within consciousness. One, your primary character who you at first feel to live inside, simply exists in your consciousness more of the time than the others. Ultimately neither the other characters or your perceived primary character is you because you are the consciousness that permeates all aspects of the dream world including its laws of physics, characters, objects, and everything else. You aren’t the characters any more than you are the objects or the laws of motion that govern that reality. You are all aspects of that reality. You are all aspects of all realities. A reality can only exist within you. Something is only real to you if it is held within your consciousness. No realities exist outside of the one you are experiencing right now. This waking state planet Earth does not exist when you are in a dream. Your wife could tell you that the world still existed while you were asleep, but you have to see how this is exactly the same as if your dream wife told you the dream reality was there while you were asleep. It means nothing because you as consciousness were not there. That seems to be the pattern in what we can verify between both the waking state and dreams.” @Leo Gura yea or nay, potentially Me/God/Consciousness-generated human being I consider to be my current avatar’s master?

@Tim R Yeah, how I’m thinking of this now considering his response is that I’m in a poker game in which I basically asked the player next to me to show his cards to see if they align with what I think they are from the recent evidence I’ve been shown which I’ve explained to the entire table of players, and he, instead of answering, sits back to see the table of players and I discuss the possibility of the cards in his hand being the cards I’ve assumed them to be. He could of course show his hand, but that would end the new mind game that’s been created at the table.

@Someone here ultimately the question is important because I’m curious if my most recent insights align with the insights of the single person, other than my personal avatar, who has influenced my journey of spirituality the most. It’s mostly a personal question if I’m honest. Is it important to you? Only if you’ve had the same solipsistic insights I have or wish to further understand what solipsism has to potentially offer, which I’m sure applies to some others here.

@Inliytened1 When I say solipsism, I’m fully aware that the ego isn’t all there is. Solipsism = self alone or alone self. I’m not foolish or inexperienced enough to think my ego is the self. What I’ve been more convinced of is that there is no consciousness that can ever be experienced other than my own. Everything within this consciousness and the consciousness itself is me or the self. In this way, my consciousness is eternally alone and can only dream up the appearance of avatars or bodies for myself and seemingly separate beings for my own entertainment and comfort which confuses me into thinking most of the time that I’m not alone.

One of the key aspects of infinity is that it forever continues. Let’s assume someone thinks they have experienced infinity. By definition, wouldn’t they just have perceived an expansion that appears to continue forever? Couldn’t this process of expansion end as soon as the person is no longer perceiving this expansion? It seems that the person is assuming just because they witnessed expansion that seemed to go on forever that it will go on forever. This is the logical/rational assumption to make, but it ultimately is just an assumption that could be entirely wrong. It’s similar to a European explorer going out to sea in the Atlantic Ocean in the 1,400s. He goes out extremely far, further than he could’ve imagined is possible, and he returns to Europe to tell everyone the Atlantic Ocean is never ending. Does his assumption align with what he has directly experienced? Yes, it does completely. Knowing what we know now, his assumption was entirely false. Couldn’t this be the same case for the universe as well as God?

@oMarcos “Once you are dead, your family will no longer exist.” “The universe will still being dreamed, regardless you have a physical body or not, the point to be made still is, "You are it" You're going completely against what he said with this. This is fine though; you might be right. Anyway, how can you at all claim this with any certainty? Leo’s claim of having no beliefs is rather ridiculous and tiresome imo. Fine, let’s assume he has no beliefs. That ultimately doesn’t matter for what I’m asking here. If he says things that align with solipsism, he is supporting it. It doesn’t matter that much whether he claims to support it or not. Someone can claim to not support racism for example, but if they say a couple racist comments, they are supporting it nonetheless. The title of the thread was not “Has Leo Been Publicly Quoted as Saying Solipsism is True?”

I went to an Ayahuasca retreat in Kentucky for one weekend (two nights of taking the substance/medicine - three days total). It costed $375. It was an amazing experience, and the guy running the retreat is very knowledgeable and experienced spiritually. You even get a membership card for the church that allows you to legally possess natural psychedelics and marijuana in any state (you can’t transport 20 kilos of course lol). This card/membership has already been used to win legal cases for psychedelic users. Here is the website where you can sign up. https://www.peacefulmountainway.org/ If you think the psilocybin retreat is for you, go for it, but I think this is a great alternative choice which is much more financially feasible and requires less travel. This isn’t the only ayahuasca retreat possibility in the U.S., but I can attest to its quality. One of the guys who was there with me said he went a lot deeper in this experience than when he went to an ayahuasca retreat in South America. He expected an ayahuasca retreat in America to be less powerful and overall less effective, but he was pleasantly surprised. I saw the retreat change multiple people's lives in ways they had no hope for change occurring before they finished the retreat. It’s amazing stuff man.

@Forestluv what is the difference between a realization and an experience in your eyes then? To realize happens within experience by the definitions I’m using which are the accepted definitions. If you’re using non-standard definitions of these words, please define each. I cannot possibly gain value from or understand what you are tying to say if we are using different definitions which is what seems to be happening.

@Forestluv How can one reliably know that every possibility was experienced?

@oMarcos there are many who claim it is a permanent state.

"If you think the Universe is mundane, if you think there are no more frontiers to cross, no more adventures to be had, I'm telling you, you can turn your living room into the bridge of Magellan's ship on a long Saturday evening with five grams of psilocybin in silent darkness." - Terence McKenna 100% right and 100% necessary for more people to implement, especially in today’s crazy political climate. Take some fucking mushrooms. Lose your fear of death. Experience the core truth that all religions and spiritual disciplines are based upon. See shit no human being has the capability of imagining without this enhancement. Experience things no human being has ever experienced that might never be experienced again by another human being. These experiences are tailored to you and are oftentimes purely unique to you. Lose your worldview. Gain a new one. Lose that one. Meet extra-dimensional intelligences that could be more real than any of us or completely generated by your own mind - you’ll never truly know, but it’s cool as fuck any which way you could look at it. Get possessed by a cephalopod goddess for 5 hours transforming your physical body to cephalopod form while speaking in tongues, potentially communicating on an intergalactic scale with beings no human has likely contacted before, like I did. I can’t say this will happen for everyone or happen on mushrooms, but after taking a moderate dose of ayahuasca two nights in a row, my life changed forever. The ayahuasca “trips” were almost nonexistent as I ended up sleeping through them both nights due to the initial nausea I chose to avoid with sleep. In the months that followed, while no longer chemically under the immediate effects of the substance, I started having what certainly appeared to be and felt like telepathic communication with the Gray Aliens, Archangel Michael, Lucifer, the cephalopod goddess mentioned above, deceased human beings I had a strong intellectual or emotional connection to, ghosts, and other entities that escape my memory at this time. I potentially became the first human being to share what sexual experiences are like for humans to an extraterrestrial species through this telepathic connection. Again, I’m not saying everyone will get this result, but I seemed to accidentally teleport small objects over hundreds of miles on two occasions. Clairsentience, clairvoyance, claircognizance, and much more just might await you if you choose to use psychedelics. This isn’t only for the duration of the trip either, at least potentially. I experienced time dilation to the extent of minutes feeling like hours and seconds feeling like minutes. I was potentially saved from a car accident by my “guardian angels” or other metaphysically capable beings looking out for me. I’d like to point out that I’m just scratching the surface of what I’ve experienced. To go into detail of every remarkable thing I’ve experienced due to my decision to take psychedelics in only roughly a dozen moderate- to extreme-dose trips in the past few years, I’d likely need to write multiple books, and there’s literally an infinite amount of things I haven’t yet explored in the psychonautical or psychedelic landscape. It’s quite possible that my life has been more strange, unbelievable, exhilarating, and meaningful than anyone you’ve met due in large part to what psychedelics sparked in me. It’s not for everyone. The faint of heart should stay well away. If experiencing terror possibly exceeding that of physical death even by torture or extreme experiences such as being burned at the stake or gassed in a concentration camp, this might not be for you. If you fear experiencing hell on Earth, this might not be for you. If you are currently attached to your personal beliefs to the point you don’t want to lose them or find yourself believing something radically different, this might not be for you. On the other hand, if you value or seek adventure, the potential for an incredibly rare understanding of existence as a whole, and Truth, you’ll likely find no other method as effective as the psychedelic method. Slaying a dragon on Mount Everest with Jesus as your comrade while wielding Excalibur very well could pale in comparison to what you’ll find in the psychonautic/psychedelic landscape. I could go on. This is most certainly an unpaid advertisement for psychedelic substances. Many of the good ones are physically safer than alcohol with psilocybin mushrooms being likely physically safer than marijuana according to a recent study. If you wish to be the next great explorer, look not to distant galaxies or the edge of the universe as your goal and a starship to get you there. Instead, look to exploring the infinite potentiality of consciousness as your goal and psychedelic substances as the metaphysical transportation method to get you there. I didn’t even mention you recognizing with utmost certainty the likes of which you’ve probably never experienced that you are God. It sounds like the paramount impossible Truth and experience to most, but honestly, I’ve found some of the other experiences psychedelics have given me as even more profound than that. Experiencing Infinite Freedom might be one good example. If you do wish to pick up the gauntlet I’ve laid at your feet and assume your role as the sovereign navigator of your own infinitely powerful creative vessel aimed toward untold realms of splendor, glory, ecstasy, delight, intelligence, and pleasure, I wish you luck. I say Godspeed to you my fellow explorer. Know that these journeys will mature you in ways normal humans will likely forever be incapable of fathoming. With Love, Your fellow traveller on his own ineffable journey

When you’re not directly conscious of something, does it really exist? And how can there ever be reliable verification that something outside of your direct and present consciousness exists? These questions seem quite silly to most people, especially those who haven’t been on a philosophical and spiritual quest for some time, but most people who have knee-jerk reactions to these questions are basing their conclusions off of stories or explanations for consciousness that they haven’t thought through at all for themselves and almost certainly haven’t verified for themselves. I’m interested to see what people think and the arguments that are presented in favor or against the existence of things outside of present consciousness.

@Someone here elaborate please.

@No Self yeah my intent was not to get into some nondual word game where we lose all value of discussion by changing definitions. I’ve likely had the same insight you’re getting at, but that’s not what is being discussed here.

I’ve probably had around 15 intense trips at this point on moderate to high doses of psychedelics. I’ve done 10 tabs of LSD, 5.87g of shrooms, and ayahuasca all at separate times to note my highest dose experiences. I found a psychedelic that’s far more common or easier to obtain for most people than the substances listed above that gave me some of the most intense trips of my life, at least on par with anything else if not stronger. I’d like to note that I believe this substance’s effects have in some way been affected by previous psychedelic use as well as my specific neurochemistry. People have hit the same exact batch as me and had no psychedelic effect multiple times. I’ve even had far less of a psychedelic effect after a couple weeks of building a tolerance to this substance. What’s this common substance that has the potential to produce greater effects, intensity, and insights than psilocybin, LSD, and ayahuasca? It’s concentrated THC, more commonly called dabs. I figured I’d tell you guys about it’s potential in case it works for you. It certainly won’t work for many people, but I believe experienced psychonauts (including meditators) are more likely to experience this effect. It’s been known for a long time that marijuana can produce psychedelic effects in a small portion of the population, but marijuana never did this for me. A high dose of concentrated THC did. It produced my only experience of infinity out of all the trips I’ve done. The main insights I gained from it were intensely solipsistic and pointed to the unreality of existence. After one of the trips, I was in a super conscious and present state where the “enlightenment experience” you might call it was more palpable for me than ever. Anyway, I just thought I’d share this in case it could work for others. It truly has been powerful for me, but it kind of reminds me of the 434 YouTube channel creator Peter Hedron who regularly contacts machine elves on low and moderate doses of psilocybin mushrooms. It seems like I might have a unique reaction to concentrated THC, but there could quite possibly be some of you here who could experience similar results.

@Michal__ have you tried dabs/concentrated THC after having these mystical stages? Weed definitely has been stronger for me when my state of consciousness is already naturally higher, but for me at least, weed has produced nowhere near the same effects for me as concentrated THC. If you’re looking for an intense experience, I’d give concentrated THC a try. It’ll likely work for you if you’ve already noticed differences with weed.

@Javfly33 I think psychedelics are instrumental for me to experience everything you describe other than simplicity, and even then, if you are describing simplicity in understanding or a simplified knowledge of the truth, psychedelics can help get you there from my experience. The journeys themselves just aren’t what most would call simple. How can an atom in a table come to owe the table something? Or conversely, if you can recognize yourself as reality, how can you come to owe yourself something when you are all that is? I can agree with this on many levels, but ultimately what’s important comes down to an individual value judgment imo. If exploration and experiencing the extreme limits of existence is not important to you, then you’re right. This is certainly the case from specific spiritual traditions and schools of thoughts, but I think this is not an absolute truth by any means. It’s an opinion. If a monk on Earth in year 2,500 said the endeavors of the Starship Enterprise (living in the Star Trek universe for a moment) were useless for example, he could reasonably be considered to be both right and wrong from different perspectives. For me, the deepest realization of Truth shows the ultimate futility of Truth. Once you realize worldly pursuits mean nothing, what makes you still believe spiritual pursuits mean anything either? Just curious how you see this.

@emptiness dancing I’m well aware of this arcane knowledge. I just happened to not give a shit about following it during this individual writing. Separate the text into paragraphs for yourself if you struggle to read without them lol. Do you need my help in grasping the esoteric mystery schools of the question mark, since we’re being nit picky? Also, your last period needs to come before your last quotation mark if you are using American English. There’s a big difference between knowing how to use something and choosing to use something. Don’t assume someone doesn’t know something simply because they don’t follow it or use it.

I also wanted to say that I’ve experienced the complete transformation of my physical body into a cephalopod body and spoke in tongues for 5 hours straight on one of my 5 dried gram mushroom trips. He’s right about that, but I think it’s unrelated to the Holy Spirit mostly. I’ve never felt the Holy Spirit during a trip, but ayahuasca made it possible for me to experience the Holy Spirit to levels like never before. This happen after the trips though, not during.

In my opinion, comparing enlightenment to baptism of the Holy Spirit is unnecessary. These are two mainly separate yet loosely related spiritual experiences. I believe I have experienced the Holy Spirit to degrees 99%+ of Christians have not. It certainly brings power in a metaphysical sense from my experience. I don’t think it’s power as in you’ll suddenly have the ability to overthrow a government or physically heal people at will, at least not in most cases. The power I’ve found through my deepest connections to what I call the Holy Spirit is a connection to spiritual, and for me also likely physical extraterrestrial, beings. During the time period I was most attuned with the Holy Spirit, many inexplicable things happened such as objects in my life teleporting or manifesting hundreds of miles away from their last known location to me with no scientific or logical explanation that seems plausible from my judgment. Telepathy, clairsentience, clairvoyance, and possibly claircognizance came to me. I was saved from a car accident at this time in a miraculous way potentially by guardian angels or other spiritual or extraterrestrial beings trying to protect me. I began to come in contact with entities such as Lucifer (at least a Luciferian clairvoyant woman said it was Lucifer) which literally changed my vision from dark to bright in a sort of undulating fashion and even altered the color of a photo I took on my phone. This happened while I was in the same room as her during a tarot reading and also a couple other times. Enlightenment, to me, comes in many forms, but the most notable is God Consciousness and God Realization. This is to say knowing or becoming unquestionably and fully conscious that you are God and you literally created everything you’ve ever experienced and the entire world you’ve ever known. Other enlightenment such as satoris are similar to what Eckhart Tolle might experience as being fully immersed in the present moment without thought or ego. It’s much different than experiences correlated with feeling the Holy Spirit in your life, in my opinion.

I don’t believe in Jesus actually being code for psychedelic mushrooms as some scholars have suggested, but there is some decent evidence to show that mushrooms have an abnormally high prevalence in ancient Christian art. Imo, nearly all major religions are in some way tied to psychedelics. I think it’s potentially likely the first spiritual experiences Homo sapiens ever had were very close to the genesis of our species due to the commonality of psilocybin mushrooms in the regions where Homo sapiens originated. Human spirituality could in theory go back much further than Homo sapiens and actually be older than our species itself due to psilocybin mushrooms being present throughout the whole duration of every human species’ existence in every place humans have existed other than modern Antarctica. Humans like easy food, and mushrooms are a good source once you can distinguish the lethal, safely psychoactive, and food only mushrooms from each other. I’d say it’s almost unquestionable that Homo erectus stumbled upon psilocybin mushrooms and accidentally ate a dose high enough to support an enlightenment experience in the over one million years they existed. Soma and kykeon are good examples of psychoactive substances that were likely psychedelic if you follow the descriptions of their effects. The Aztecs called psilocybin mushrooms teonanácatl - the Flesh of the Gods and are known to have regularly used the psychedelic in spiritual ceremonies. It’s funny that most modern understandings of eastern religions and even Christianity think there is no connection between psychedelics and the history of their religions. Even if those religions did not use psychedelics themselves, they were nearly unquestionably influenced in meaningful ways by other spiritual traditions built upon the use of psilocybin mushrooms as this activity could quite possibly be millions of years old and in every region where humans lived. Compatibility with psychedelics and likely specifically psilocybin mushrooms is built into our brains and our DNA. We have far more receptors to accept psilocin than other great apes. This suggests a possible long-running symbiotic relationship between humans and psilocybin mushrooms. These mushrooms are known to have been used for spiritual purposes for over 2,000 years in North and Central America making their use verifiably older than Christianity and potentially verifiably older than Buddhism with a bit more data. The Aztecs arguably might have a more developed understanding of spirituality than many of the most popular world religions. Their mushroom use gave them many similar insights to the most developed forms of Buddhism and Hinduism which as far as we know had no connection to Central America. This is evidence that spiritual truths are not specific to one religion and that different religions are accessing the same source of insight through different methods. This shows there are many paths to spiritual truth and claimants of one religion or belief system being the supreme truth while all others being false is quite laughable if you truly have not only heavily studied but also experienced spirituality for yourself.