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Hi all. I'm doing noting meditation, where I focus on my thoughts and every few seconds say, 'thinking-thinking-thinking'. I was wondering if anyone had any resources regarding what to expect from this kind of meditation. I'm struggling to find them on the internet. Also, I've watched and taken notes on Leo's vid on mindfulness meditation, so would prefer not to have that video recommended.

@Thought Art Oh, I assumed from its inclusion in your post it wasn't in a good place, generally

I'd personally prioritise number 2

So, to my understanding, by being stage blue they will be subscribing to strong ideas about what is right and wrong. Those in the right are to be looked upon favourably, those in the wrong looked upon disfavourably. With that being so, what ideas regarding right and wrong do your parents subscribe to? I.e. Are they practicing Christians? More secular in their right/ wrongness?

So, by disavowing LOC, you are saying you don't agree with the 0 - 1000 style metric? How about if OP was talking about spiral dynamics stages re consciousness. I.e. a stage yellow person being more valuable than a stage blue person. I personally think it sounds somewhat fascist, re answering OP's question in the affirmative.

I think you would find value in talking this through with someone who coming from a non-judgmental space, and listens and hears your concerns that a part of you has. I wonder whether intellectually understanding will help you to move out of the emotional state you are in.

Perhaps. But not as an end in itself, but they may support conservatism as a means to an end. A yellow thinker may want long-term left wing change. And, although a certain left wing candidate would implement preferable short term changes, it may be that long-term they actually do harm than good to the leftist agenda. For example, if Corbyn had got into office in Britain, it may have been that there would have been a big backlash after his term, with conservatism taking more of a long-term strangle hold than had he not been there. I don't think conservatism can be supported as an end in itself by a yellow person because of free will. Conservatism is generally based on ideas that the individual is a relatively free agent within society and is the maker of their own wins/ losses. However, stage yellow embraces systems thinking which is deterministic as it would see society as working as a set of systems. Therefore, stage yellow thinkers would refute the idea of the relatively free agent within a society.

I'd say game is both inner and outer. You can have sick inner game, but if you're not socially calibrated you'll miss out. Also, tho im not that into this side of game, you look at logistics and that sort of thing. You can go v hard on the outer and get good result, i.e. mystery. However, to my mind, that's a route to mental dysfunction, and you gotta keep in mind whether the juice is worth the squeeze with the outer game heavy approach to game.

@NightHawkBuzz I think this could suit your purposes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJXthKsytpE

Damn wilber got hair again lmao

I'd say out of the need for safety. When you are hateful, your guard is up, the other person is perceived as a threat, so you are in more of a protective mode. When you are loving to someone, your guard is not up as much, you are not percieving them, generally, as so much of a threat. So, you are less in protective mode. When you hate therefore you are acting more in line with your perceived safety need.

Please, and thank yous. Basic politeness. Its actually surprisingly rare. Like @Razard86 said too, seek first to understand then to be understood too. Ask people open-ended questions about how they're doing generally too, i.e. how's it going. If they mentioned they were heading to an event, ask them a couple of basic questions about it. That's what I know helps me. Makes you likeable. However, in terms of being seen as an authority I think that takes some other things.

Agreed re the trauma. I'm not well versed re oxytocin so can't endorse that either way.

I quite liked the content of the video, apart from the woke bashing. However, I dislike that it was only for the muslim audience. I think it implies some level of blame onto their community. I think it disregards the sociological and politics background that creates the conflicts within islamic sects and between different religions. -------------------------------------------------------- And, re Leo's epistemology comment, I think that's spot on. Epistemology can't be overlooked. If it is, to my mind, you're building a castle on sand.

@somegirl Sure. I understand you. There's a book called, 'Self therapy voll.1' by Jay Earley that might be useful for ya.

Ye really recommend this

I personally like Internal Family System Therapy. I think its the psychotherapy with the most potential for deep rooted change. I can give you some recommendations if you'd care for some.

@Vercingetorix I got pretty decent at teh fundamental of getting myself to approach while solo. I get it can be tough af. Tougher for some than others, depending on their psychic arrangement. I found what helped me was: - I 'get to meet her', or 'she gets to meet to meet me', rather than 'I have to approach her' - Starting small (i.e. one approach where i ask for the time), and then building from there - Reframing anxiety as butterflies ( i was therefore overcoming butterflies rather than anxiety)

@Raptorsin7 Ye dude, I wish you the best regarding that. I think a lot of things are about hitting the bottom of the curve, and then your results explode. Maybe you've hit that bottom now.

Great stuff man. This might also help out a lot re IFS. It seems like you'll be having a lot more access to self.

To my mind, rational argument isn't likely to work. The identification with the blackpill movement will be fulfilling some of their needs, albeit in an unhealthy manner. So, I reckon you would need to make it so that he would believe that he wouldn't be losing out of meeting those needs. For example, identifying with the blackpill movement might fulfil a need to belong that your friend has. Therefore, no matter your argument, if you didn't offer an alternative means of fulfilling that need to belong you wouldn''t be likely to get very far.

Agreed

https://davidtianphd.com/recommended-readings/ Best reading list ik of. Would chuck in somatic experiencing too

Thank you. I can't tell you how useful that is to hear from you

@Leo Gura I saw, in a thread about Teal Swan, that you have to readjust your expectations of people who've had a bad childhood. I am one of those whose experienced such a childhood, which has left me with having to deal with some circumstances that others do not have to. I was wondering whether I, and others like, should look to take onboard your teachings differently? I understand its kind of a vague question, but would be curious to hear your thoughts. I also understand your time may be limited, so answering this may not be possible. Thank you.