Ulax

I'd look into learning more about epistemology. Maybe Leo's vid on why rationality is wrong could be thought provoking for you.

@Michael569 Have you read the book?

Ye I think for the most part its sensible to push off spiritual work until the future when dealing with trauma. That said, I think IFS therapy can be an appealing approach for folks who want trauma recovery as well as spiritual insight.

@Sugarcoat Ye dude, imo, its important to get grounded and actually develop a strong ego, i.e. strong sense of identity, before you transcend it. Imo, spirituality is fucking great but its also v important to understand that, as Leo says, mentally ill folks are like moths to a flame when it comes to spirituality. Maybe someone can focus on spirituality as a means of mental health recovery. However, I think there are a lot of traps to fall into with that. Depth psychology and getting one's life generally together is more important imo for those who have mental health issues.

Welcome dude. I'd recommend starting with what Yarco recommended

I like the question. To my current understanding, my major regrets centre around my actions towards various other people in the past. Some on one off occasions and some over a period of time. However, on reflection, I'm of the understanding that it could never have been any other way. Using a particular sense of 'should', if something did happen, it should have happened.

@thisintegrated Oh cool, sounds like you've had some awakenings. And jiiinx re age lol. Looool sounds like you 7w8's are just tryna vibe 24/7. I think I differ on the idea that most folks want a life purpose centred around fun. I think there can be a masochism to a lot of folk's LPs, i.e. jordan peterson. Tho i can see how many LPs could be centered around fun. And nice re multiple personalities ;). Dissociation? Or just conflicting parts to you? Or something else?

@Leo Gura Damn, my manifesting worked

@Ulax Ah gotcha dude. Sorry about the illness. How old are you btw?

@Roy Haha dude! Almost same exact thing happened at my 18th!

Yo dude! These parties sound fun. Nice to let loose hey? I'd personally recommend staying off the weed but that's just me. (I stopped having the devil's lettuce after a weird experience where I experienced a paranoid delusion that everyone in the world wanted to fuck me. Was an interesting experience xD). I think drinking can bring some fun memories and wild experiences, and helps bond with people. I'd just make sure not to over do it. That said I had my fair few experiences of getting blackout drunk growing up ;). Back in my teens I used to go to quite a few parties/ gatherings sober, but importantly I'd leave my phone at home or bring a dumbphone with me. I had social anxiety and wanted to overcome it. That way I found when I was anxious about the prospect of introducing myself to people, I couldn't just avoid saying hi by pretending to be on my phone. Worked a charm! Ended up getting pretty effective at getting myself able to go and meet new people when I was out at events. Am in my early/ mid 20s now, and it deffo helped me in college, rest of high school, and elsewhere, i.e. getting started in pickup. Also, I reckon you could start practising building social networks by adding folks you like on your socials, and then inviting them to other events. Could even throw some events yourself if you're up to it!

Haha represent! You got your life purpose direction sorted btw? Would be interested to hear from a fellow entp

Hey dude, would recommend the book how to win friends and influence people. Maybe some therapy could help you out too.

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I said 'in that aspect' at the beginning of the quoted sentence. I think you've understood my comment differently than I intended it to be understood. Also, I'd say I do have an idea.

I think its because the sense of objectivity meets these folk's need for clarity, stability and understanding of the world. Also, i think the stage orange and blue worldview that I think conservatives have is very reliant on the maintenance of the idea of objectivism. And I think in their discourse objectivism is a default position. I think saying there is no objectivity to them is probably the same as telling them the sky is gay. However, to my mind, there are countless contradictions and incoherence's that arise in the maintenance of that belief, and to maintain their sense of stability, perhaps, they choose to just continually deny reality, and deny objections, creating elaborate rationalisations to back up their points of view. However, I'd guess that their lives have been pervasively defined by a subculture and upbringing that mirrors these traits of right wing ideology. Say ideas around punishment/ reward style parenting, church as centre of community, being an outcast at school etc. I'd like to share my story actually. I think it could shed some light on a type of personality who becomes a right winger. I used to be right wing myself up until around 20. I was a proud and vocal right wing libertarian who believed in laissez-faire economics. I saw myself as being part of a movement to say western civilization, tho I was civil in how I went about it. I have tried to become conscious of why I adopted the movement so strongly. I'd say my father's behaviour was often authoritarian, controlling, plus also neglectful. And I think that was the key starting point. When I reflect on why the right wingers appealed specifically I think it was because it met a lot of needs that other things didn't meet. The certainty of the messaging, i.e. from ben shapiro or milo yiannopolous seems big. Met my need for a sense of clarity and understanding of the world. The idea of institutional racism being a myth met my need for stability and sense of acceptance. Plus the right wingers approach met my need for empathy, and sense of being understood and that I actually belonged. I would often feel a sense of mistrust towards the right wing talking points and also a sense that I wasn't critically examining them, but I would quickly rationalise that, tho doubt would remain. I think being right wing just simply fit my survival strategy at the time. I think I got out because I happened to have a friend who had bipolar disorder/ npd. So some of the time he would be highly authoritarian and grandiose, which I think met many of my needs like the right wing stuff did. However, when he wasn't in the manic/ grandiose bipolar state, he was also a passionate left winger who seemed adept at politics and caring about people's interests. Consequently, I think the authoritarianism of him met the same needs as the right wing authoritarianism did. Further, I had more needs met by the left wing understanding of the world compared to the right wing one I was used to. Reason being because I wanted to be accepted by him and also it produced less cognitive dissonance in me. Nowadays, I'd say I'm more able to think for myself due to consciousness work. Although, I'd say I only really got out by luck. I find it kinda shocking to contemplate about what the root of my behaviour was in the past and how i was seemingly not aware of it.

I appreciate your providing the question. I find it an interesting one. I don't think it is ever fair to slut shame women. And I don't think its ever appropriate. I would draw the boundary at abuse. And see abuse in this context where people communicate an attitude that shows there is a category of slut and that being part of that category is bad. To my recollection, I personally feel a sense of repulsion when I'm with someone and they sincerely use the word 'slut'. I stopped hanging around with someone last year in large part due to that. If people say, 'When I see a women who I think sleeps around with lots of different dudes, I feel disgusted' I think that is okay. Other people may not like it, but then it is these other people's responsibility to manage their own emotions and draw healthy boundaries, i.e. not associate with that person. Why people slut shame? - Firstly, I think all rationality is essentially baseless and arbitrary, from a purely rational perspective. So the category of slut and the accompanying condemnation is arbitrary. So, it can't be people are calling others a slut because they actually are sluts, rationally speaking. - Secondly, to my understanding, everything we ever do is an attempt to meet a need. So, when people call others a slut they are simply attempting to meet a need. A hypothetical example could be that a first guy saw another guy call a girl a slut. The second guy then calls a different girl a slut so as an attempt to feel a sense of belonging and acceptance, i.e. because now has sense of familiarity with other dude. Thirdly, to my understanding, I will note that I think there is a special evolutionary need, not sure which, that is involved with slut shaming. I think revolves around the idea that female sexual promiscuity goes against male sexual strategy because of an inherent need not being met when there is a fear of being cucked. I've learnt about some of the idea from a book called 'Sperm wars', and that's where i think I'm getting that idea from. Overall, I think what Leo says is important and something I find funny to keep in mind. Humans beings are the bullshitting animal.

@KH2 Wow!

Okay, I'm still confused re the subject of my question. I'll leave further questions on it for now. Appreciate your replying

Please don't go btw dude. What would the vegas girls do without you

@Leo Gura I thought maybe you had discovered things in this recent experience, which you interpreted as being in contradiction with previous teachings. To my understanding, a bit like how it seems folks who teach neo-advita have deeper enlightenment experiences which seems to me to get some of those folks to re-evaluate their teachings around enlightenment.

@KH2 Thanks dude. Also, I'd recommend tagging the relevant user in future when you want to reply. I think I only found your reply because I was looking for something else.

I guess what I want to know is whether videos you made in the past few years are now obsolete. Is that so? @Leo Gura Ah man, I really want you to learn and understand about the IFS model of mind. I feel confident that it could be an integrative and holistic step regarding various aspects of your teachings. I think things like psychosis and schizophrenia could become much more understood too with an understanding of that model.

Yooooo, i find that so intriguing. Any links to any articles that talk about this distance vision stuff?

@thisintegrated You believe in some sort of epistemic foundationalism then?