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It's not about cognition, it's about values. Spiral Dynamics is for understanding, anticipating, and then categorizing values. Green values are superior to Blue values > Because as one moves up the Spiral the values become more encompassing and compassionate to greater parts of humanity and the world as a whole. If you've studied history in any capacity you'll notice a trend of things becoming increasingly more Liberal over time. The Liberals of today are the Conservatives of tomorrow. The most hardcore Conservatives of today would be considered crazy nutcase hippies by the Conservatives of 1920. Realize this, embrace it.

I haven't done my delve into this topic deeply yet, but one important skill that immediately comes to mind is; Being able to accurately intuit the strengths and weaknesses of the people under you. From there many things stem: - Learning how to place people in the right spot, so their strengths are utilized, weaknesses minimized - Learning what to say to build rapport, ie. complimenting their strengths - Learning and targeting what they need to improve on, so the larger whole is improved - Getting a better sense of the dynamics you're operating within in general Hope that helps @electroBeam !

I've watched about 10 hours of all their content.

@Leo Gura The first sentence I typed into this thread was a compliment to him. Vaguely doing a bunch of good things in the world doesn't redeem him of what he's done to that girl if he doesn't reconcile with her directly, or some appropriate form of justice is applied. It's nice, but evasive. People have their priorities for who they look up to twisted as hell. Being a "bad guy" who does heinous shit and then changes for the better is romanticized to insane levels. Yea it's inspiring, it's "cool". You know what else is cool? Not doing heinous shit to begin with.

The person them-self can transcend to other stages but if their goal is to succeed individually within the sport they need to focus strictly on orange, to a degree. I'm not quite sure what you're asking for though? A players career is only just that, their job. It doesn't define them outside of that (mostly). Are you asking for on field examples only? I guess we could say LeBron James is Orange/Green. People harp on him for not being a "killer" like MJ or Kobe, but that seems to be because LeBron demonstrates he doesn't quite care as much about his individual achievements or how people rank him. While MJ gives off a rather defensive insecure aura about people challenging his GOAT status. Of course a lot of these guys show good sportsmanship and don't throw their teammates under the bus generally, but LeBron plays like more of a stage green player with his passing and leadership style. While players like Kobe have been known to be crude and rag on teammates for not performing to his standard, especially in the 2005-07 seasons when the Lakers dropped off. LeBron played with some REALLY bad teams and I don't think I've ever heard him slip and talk shit about former teammates. LeBron also seems to be a pretty progressive thinker culturally which indicates green.

UBI is an inevitability and is a by-product of humanity advancing and becoming a more interconnected and compassionate species. People can argue the economics, math, morals, and semantics of it's effects in the current all they want. 100 years from now though people will look back and scorn us for being so selfish, backwards for not having it as a commonly accepted system.

Congratulations. You've graduated from Stage Green to Stage Yellow thinking.

Read the link in my post in it's entirety and take it for what you will. @Leo Gura I'm not omniscient (yet ). I can't literally know everything about everyone. Especially on the internet where everyone has the luxury of concealing and crafting whatever information or persona they want to put out there. It's not about people being squeaky clean, it's about finding out who is worth your time and who isn't, life is short. If one is to reach truth, love, and self-actualize for them-self and others, you need a self-regulating healthy sense of intuition to get you there and not be detoured by every devil you come across. You do that by "judging" or rather assessing someone from their actions and speech, and then gauge their intentions and values from that the best you can. Abstaining to do that will cause you get swayed and taken advantage of by devilry. This is called "self-respect", which could also be referred to as a form of self-love. Not allowing yourself to get walked over on manipulated. It's why I refereed to you as a rather trustworthy teacher, because you seem to be remarkably transparent with your intentions compared to most people, and your track record/history seems to coincide and support that as well. Maybe you're a clinical narcissist though and this is all a show, who knows? Feel free to shatter everyone's reality if you want! My judge of character and intuition is usually pretty spot on though and has served me pretty well so far. Of course I empathize and have compassion for Owen. I don't despise him or hate him for what he's done, I understand it's just the path he felt he had to take. If I had to guess it seems like he used to think of himself as pathetic (because of lack of self-acceptance), and has gone on a grandiose adventure for social prestige and lower consciousness pleasures to compensate and fix that. It's remarkable looking at him from his first video til now. My point in posting in this thread was to just illuminate to people that hey, maybe we should take a step back and exercise a bit more skepticism. Just because a teacher or marketer is providing us with something we want, doesn't mean we should turn off our lens of assessment and have a blind eye to things. Check your sources people! Don't support those who aren't in line with higher values and principles, don't fund the devil lol! For example if I wanted to get into pick-up, I wouldn't take advice from someone who bragged about having raped someone, no matter how good he was at pick-up. For the same reason (hyperbole incoming) I wouldn't take a lecture from Hitler on Humanism. If people want to abandon their principles for their own short term gain though, hey that's their choice.

This is what to be focusing on, you got it! Build up other areas of your life sufficiently and you'll find you'll naturally attract women. They'll come into your life without much effort, if at all. "If you build it, they will come." This doesn't mean you have to be perfect in those other factors like finances, health, hobbies, etc., you just gotta take care of them so at the very least they aren't problems. It's far too apparent with young men these days that they expect way to be owed way more than they deserve. They "want their cake and to eat it too". They get bitter that seemingly no women wants to be with them, yet they don't have the courage to admit to themselves their own inadequacies, instead they project it all outwards. They neglect their health, they're irresponsible with money, they don't contribute to their community, they can't even clean their own room for fuck sakes! If you were a quality woman would you want to be with someone like that? Just being able to admit this will save you tremendous amounts of needless negative emotion and struggle. You are ahead of the curve @7thLetter, be proud.

He is good at what he does no doubt, but it comes from a place of pure narcissism and manipulation. The irony of how much he preaches authenticity is palpable. He is self-admitant rapist and shouldn't even have a platform. I'm not even a supporter of the #Metoo movement because of all the reckless collateral damage, but it has brought light onto the scumbags of the world. RSD are a collective of selfish egomaniacs masquerading under the guise of personal development. Literally devils in disguise. https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/9kx4ri/ive_uncovered_leaked_videos_from_the_worlds/ I recently found out a channel I used to follow for self-help years ago (Project Life Mastery) was proven to have preyed on desperate terminally ill people by selling fake medical cures for INCURABLE diseases. Much of the revenue was obviously used to build the business and make it more sustainable. Yet if you go look at the channel and Stephen James you'd think everything is squeaky clean and was build with pure #passion and #authenticity. That's why teachers like Leo are dime a dozen. Moral of the story is be very keen and watch out who you take advice from. A lot of what seems, is not. The closet door might be flexing with skeletons pushing on it.

@Keyhole Interesting. I guess the lesson here would be don't rely too much on external sources to help you on your path. The motivation and reasons have to come almost solely from within. It seems from what she described she was depending on something too much and that rug was pulled out from under her feet and the fall was too hard for her and she isn't sure she can get back up again.

I'm not sure what she is talking about in the video? She saw number patterns or something and they kept coming up in her life? That supposed to be angles communicating to her but it was demons?

I have suffered from harm based Pure OCD in the past, and somewhat recently as well. It is fucking terrifying, but I have conquered it and learned how to deal with it. The greatest advice I currently have to help move past it and take the burden off is realize; You are not your thoughts. They simply arise within you and are not truthfully reflective of your intentions, feelings, and attitudes. It is your brain misfiring, and projecting/obsessing over absurd possibilities and conclusions. Detach yourself from any beliefs you may have that you are your brain, because that is not the case.

What are you acting like and saying shortly before you "fuck things up", and they stop talking to you? You have to be completely honest with yourself here. Are you being too pushy with them to talk all the time or set up a date? Are you being far too available for them? Are you focusing so hard on chasing that you're neglecting your life in any way? These are the kinds of things to ask. Women are highly intuitive, they can sense these things out and won't say a damn word about it to you, but still feel it. It will cause them to lose attraction. Perhaps you've just been unlucky. Perhaps good things will come your way if you drop the need/attachment mindset for wanting sex or a girlfriend too much.

It just depends on where you're looking. If you being too vague and just going on tinder or going to bars, on average you're going to run into mainstream kind of girls that reflect the kind of society you're in. If you're in a Western nation that's going to be mostly Stage Blue-Orange people who are focused on shallow materialism and success. If you want to kind more advanced people you need to go look in the places that have them; - Volunteering as a lot of Stage Green women that are humanistic and care about others/society - Gardening stores, Tree planting events, spirituality stores - Libraries I'll let you brainstorm the rest. Overall if you're happy and support each other, what's the problem? If you feel like you need them to have the same worldview and think like you, well. You aren't being very spiritual or open and a lot more consumed by ego than you think you are.

Careful not to place to much authority in him or what he has to say. Try to discover the answer yourself.

That was quite helpful. A nice extra kick, I know there are some things I've needed to let go of but I've been struggling. I'll try to take a step back and re-energize myself for a better effort. Thank you.

@Carl-Richard There are 7.8 Billion people on Earth, and 195 countries. To make the assumption that the path of development for all these people and nations should be even roughly the same is naive and too simplistic.

What the most important thing I should be focusing on right now that I'm currently missing? Cool thx Emerald!

Progress isn't always linear. To reach the next stage you sometimes need to regress - 1 step backwards, 2 steps forwards. All living creatures, with humanity at the forefront, are on hurting trajectory towards a singularity. This is eschatology. Reality is a zero sum game. Even if factually, egoic survival is the only agenda, eventually you become so successful at it that the by products simply force you advance, unconscious or otherwise. A nuclear war could happen tomorrow and set us back thousands of years, but the lessons learned will be ingrained in the survivors and will catapult us to even greater stages - 100 steps backwards, 10,000 steps forwards. It is inevitable.

While Salvia can be absolutely astonishing/terrifying/chaotic, keep in mind it only lasts a few minutes. After 10 minutes you will be your 100% sober normal self. (This is smoking Salvia, I wouldn't recommend other forms of intake.) Like Leo said people can have the experience of feeling "locked away" like you'll never come back, but this is just a temporary trick and sensation. After you are sober again in a few minutes you won't have any of those feelings residing. There is tremendous comfort in this. There is no drawn out come down or post-trip brain fog where you feel sick or on the brink of insanity for hours at a time. In this safe it's actually quite safe and low risk, in my opinion. Just make sure you have someone watching you, so you don't walk around and trip and hit your head or something. If you are looking to try your first psychedelic, it's a good starter, because it's so damn short and you are quickly sober. Just get the least potent version you can find and don't take too big a hit. The question you have to ask is are you willing to experience having your reality replaced with something completely different? Does that interest you at all? If so Salvia is the drug for you. Interesting in the very least.

No shit eh........

I'm not doing anything. That's the point.

@Prevailer Belief is = Hoping or wanting an outcome or state of reality. To realize the Absolute truth is to completely surrender to it, as it dissolves the self into the oblivion from whence it came. If this happens, belief is no long apart of the picture.

Being zealous about removing things 100% from your life can be a trap and a form of neuroticism. An enemy of true authenticity. Is having a few drinks on your birthday or Christmas going to shatter your spiritual practices? The answer to that is probably no. If it does, well you have some other problems to worry about.