Tanz

Wow I learned something new today, thanks. Nice piggyback to the point I made earlier. Its nearly impossible to consume something without exploitation involved. Unless you live in the woods and make everything yourself from scratch + don't use electricity. I would also like to add in, that rocks and metals taken from the earth are conscious and may enjoy where they are at before humans stick dynamite and blow them up. A well-compensated worker in the mines is risking their life while their boss whom comes from generational wealth is sitting at home banging underaged girls. One was born in the "right" family, and the other born "normal"

@Dutch guy haha I love food and I love to cook and appreciate ingredients. If I had more time and resources I would sail in various places around the world to fish and catch crab and lobster. I am trying my best to do my part in the world Its intriguing that food and sex can feel so good. I am married and monogamous but sex and woman are beautiful inventions as much as tasting food.

@DoubleYou @Tanz Solving the way animals being treated is a large task to fulfill. Pushing people to become vegan is not the way rather become a farmer that raises animals and pushes sustainable farming. I am aware of how to fix this problem but I don't have billions of dollars or influence to create such a movement OR I can always run away from the world. Pick my own cotton, weave my own fabric, make my own clothes, create my own tools, and hunt my own food in the woods, and have a garden but living a life like that would be extreme and not solve anything. How many people can truly say they are living a life where they are certain they are not exploiting another human being, animal, or nature? The servers it takes to run this website so we can discuss something insignificant takes up energy that impacts the earth. Maybe the boss that is running the server is a child molester and he's using his position to gather information on his victims. Or the owner of the servers that this site is being hosted on is a terrorist organization. Leo's desire to save money and lower is the cost to run the site led to using this host. Us being a part of this forum is contributing to all this. There is little point to think in this way because we are all one.

@DoubleYou You are making an assumption that suffering is a bad thing. Furthermore there is a level of dualism believing there could be a world where suffering does not exist at all. There is no one act that isn't love because love is everything.

@Dutch guy @DoubleYou The Buddha ate meat whenever given to him. A billionaire employs tens of thousands of jobs, these people have families, maybe some of them are into spirituality. A garbage man makes sure society is clean and people don't get diseased. Virtue signaling doesn't help. Someone not spiritual at all may live and die "meaningless life" but may have a child that will cure cancer. Weighing one "good" act and weighing it higher than something else is childish. Human morality doesn't always play a big factor as most people think it does.

There are far more unenlightened people that are vegan that I have met. The ones that are hardcore think they are by default higher than anyone who is not. Veganism can be dogmatic and religious, when that happens it brings them further from what they are trying to be. Other than being calmer, I don't feel any less spiritual eating meat and if I compare myself to when I was and now, the person I used to be is a child in comparison to what I am today.

Most of what Sam Harris talks about is for his own survival. Meaning he will choose topics that will earn him the most views/attention and money as possible. He does not do it intentionally, its more of an unconscious choice. His attachment to his ideas and persona limits his ability to bring people together and transform them in the ways he is trying to do.

The experience of suffering and struggling is one of egos way of feeling alive. You can put another emotion or human experience and this would hold true. Anger, jealousy, selfishness, power, powerlessness etc etc

Congrats on your new beginning

The injustice gives you an opportunity to make it just and discover who or what you really are. Therefore the thing you judged to begin with IS the gift.

Walking meditation helps me when I get too restless from sitting. Like said above feeling uncomfortable is a sign it's working. Self inquiry is about ripping yourself apart, it's not about finding peace. The peace part happens as a byproduct much later on.

Songs go as deep as the consciousness of the person writing it has. Its much easier to create customers or consumers when you write music, make movies, create news that puts them in states of fear and envy

I would not do 5meo near water personally too but I also would not climb up a mountain, skydive, ride a motorcycle but people are free to do whatever they want as long as they are not harming another person. People shoot themselves literal rockets that can explode in the name of discovery. I would never do that unless someone can guarantee me that I would meet a spiritually evolved alien. They have the right of free speech but I don't think they should be judging Leo, in fact, the amount of judgment in general in our society is way too high

Its a good question. Yes, conspiracy theories are fear-based, even if they are true. The notion of a separate self is an illusion. This breakdown to conspiracy theory as a fight against yourself. We consistently self conspire against ourselves.

Was it dissolved in water or an acid like vinegar?

@Surfingthewave I have had deep awareness moments where I have gone to the point of feeling if I took 2-4 more steps I would not come back. If you also go super deep you witness the destruction of the universe, the "god of destruction," Shiva is a real thing. I don't mean the God Shiva as a spirit but what you will experience when you want to go deeper. The feel-good fluffy stuff is easy to be with but when you want to go ultra conscious, you have to go dark. There could be another way but I don't know of a way or anyone that has done it without discomfort. Leo is going to be fine but it's great to have a post like this to show your concern. I would be deeply saddened too if Leo were to be gone. There will be an end-boss or bosses that Leo will share with everyone when he goes even deeper.

can someone lock this thread, too repetitive? who cares about what sadhguru says about psychedelics

Thanks for sharing! Great work!

It's from both illusion and perception of lack.

He's probably one of the more well-rounded teachers. Since hes such a good story-teller people love to listen to him. From time to time, I listen to him from videos I have seen before and seem to get more out of it. At the very least you can learn how to tell stories listening to him. Adyashanti is my favorite teacher as far as the topic of awakening goes. I would say Sadhguru is more advanced that Eckhart

There hasn't been anyone of that stature that you describe. Not Jesus, Buddha, Leo, Sadhguru or anyone. There have been many that have been close but to become everything is a TALL TALL order. There are hundreds to thousands of people that have had an experience(s) of everything but to become is a whole different Arena.

I don't recommend taking any substance during pregnancy. You have no idea how the biochemistry of your body reacts to the substance. There are certain parts of pregnancy where your body mixes the perfect balance of hormones to develop your child's brain, organs and so forth. Most of the childs development happens in reflection on who you are inside and how you carry yourself through life. They will see everything. Read books, meditate, listen to conscious music, do shadow work. All of those things will reward your child more than any psychedelic can at this point.

Leo seems to be more of a 5meo person and the body makes it naturally so there isn't much of a price to pay physiologically since the body knows how to break it down fairly easily.

@Patrick_9931 welcome to your journey. Have fun and be willing to allow life to teach you.

There is Christ consciousness and Buddha consciousness that transcends time and space. You can tap into the selfless love and wisdom that they embodied. There aren't any books that will help you. You have to look inside and love the devil inside you ultimately. They are you after all.