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3 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:It is a New Age concept, called "Walk in", a sudden change in personality, mentality and preferences which is attributed to an older soul joining another one in the same body.
I can see this happening. Imagine being another person and dying. You then incarnate into a new body. This new body is not necessarily a newborn, it could be an adult. The moment you incarnate into this new body, you will have all the memories of this person and its current experience without noticing that. Essentially you unite with another soul and your experiences become one.
I feel the incarnation stuff is much more complex than we already understand, and the problem is, to understand it, you must die first
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Yes I've seen someone claim a "walk-in" IRL.
What to make of it I think is still beyond my understanding.
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3 hours ago, LastThursday said:To use an IT analogy: I see it like software (soul) being on hardware (body). For most people, there's one integrated program running albeit it's made up of lots of different parts. But in the video there are two well delineated programs running simultaneously. The operating system engages one or the other program mutually exclusively, although the two appear to share some information between them.
That analogy seems to aligns with what they are saying.
For instance, they mentioned that if they both leave the both simultaneously, the body apprently will just fall to the floor.
I will have to contemplate it further.
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There are four parts for anyone following:
Part 4 is maybe the most interesting in terms of looking at the metaphysics of all this. They appear to share a pretty typical New Age view, which is that humanity to going through a spiritual evolution in order to meet the collective challenges we are facing. Interesting though that they emphasize that this evolution is "slow", as apposed to many New Agers who assume this process will be extremely rapid.
Also, tons of respect for Dr. Mishlove for how he conducted this interview. His open-mindedness and warmth made for an excellent conversation. All of them had great chemistry together.
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6 hours ago, Salvijus said:Finnished watching this.
Mind.....
Fricking.....
Blowing................
My reality is shattered.
It's truly wild. Parts 2-4 gets even deeper.
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9 hours ago, LastThursday said:@aurum it's striking in that it's unusual for sure. My working theory is that the feeling of being one undivided individual is only a "convenience" for others socially, and so it is more habit than anything else.
I think we're born without much of an identity and we grow an identity over time by copying others: mostly parents and siblings to start with. In that sense we are a pastiche of others identities' filtered through our own biology and perceptions (nothing is really ours). All those bits of identity get strung together and we say we have a "soul" or more rightly a "unique identity" that belongs to us. But there is no limitation in practice that says we must have one overarching identity, and so we get the situation in the video. Indeed, we can have bits of our identity that are in constant conflict with each other.
I think the social aspect of identity has a strong influence here. People expect us to be consistent and roughly the "same person" over time because it makes for a lot smoother social interaction - we need to maintain mental models of others' identities and personalities and this is cognitively very difficult. It's a lot lot simpler if each person has one unique identity.
I'd agree with that.
But in this specific case, that seems like an oversimplification.
If we take their story at face value, what they are describing is not just a pastiche of identities. They are able control different parts of the physical body, enter and exit at will, have different memories, skills and feel each other's presence. They even have a different voice.
If let myself drop the social exception of having to be the "same person", I will still not look anything like this. So it's much more extreme than anything most people experience.
Also, they don't appear to have classic dissociative disorder. So what other explanations are left?
We could argue they are making it all up, but that also is a weak explanation. What would they have to gain by making something like this up?
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51 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:Having said that, i never head about two 'souls' sharing a body. I read somewhere about a Yogui doing a certain process and was running out of time in his own body so it decided to get into another Yoguis body to finish the work, avoding having to start all of the beggining again (to avoid doing again sadhana).
But not sure if what this women is talking about is the same. It looks this women has two personalities inside their head.
I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that there is something spiritual happening here. It is not mental illness. They seem too well-adjusted and intelligent for that.
I don’t quite understand the intricacies of how it works.
Clearly it’s a non-dual phenomenon.
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Radical open-mindedness required:
Honestly it’s hard for me to make sense of exactly what is happening here.
Assuming this is true, the idea is that these “souls” can enter and exit the body. But what exactly is a soul anyway? And what does it mean to enter and exit a physical body?
None of my previous awakening experiences or contemplations have answered these questions.
Regardless, it’s evidence that consciousness is way funkier than most people realize.
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On 6/2/2024 at 0:50 AM, Javfly33 said:@aurum If you have proof sadhguru Is lying here, prove it please.
If you proof me is fake, I'll drop the practice this very day.
Not going to read any book because my results speak for themselves, is you that is coming to the topic and arguing that Hatha Yoga is fake was invented in s.XX.
Provide proof that is all fake, I'm all ears.
1) I have already made a suggestion for you to read and you have not done so.
Read Yoga Body by Mark Singleton. Read Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras and notice the distinct lack of modern asanas. It’s not until the Hatha Yoga Pradipika that we start to get modern asanas, but even here it’s minimal compared to what we have now.
Most of the modern asanas we see people practicing don’t come online until people like Krishnamacharya, Swami Kuvalayananda, Yogendra, Iyengar, Desikachar, Pattabhi Jois and Indra Devi, Bishnu Charan Ghosh and Bikram Choudhury come along.
Feel free to fact check all this with GPT.
2) It’s not necessary for you to give up all of Hatha Yoga. If you feel it’s meeting your goals, great. Keep it up.
I am interested in critiquing the parts of modern yoga I find most problematic. Not getting people to stop practicing.
The main traps to look out for are the following: excessive passive stretching, contortionism / hyper mobility, chasing "advanced" poses, guru worship, unsubstantiated health & wellness claims, excessive capitalism and unsubstantiated spiritual claims.
3) Ultimately, the fact that yoga is evolving IS a good thing! We want yoga to keep evolving and adapting to meet the needs of modern people. This is the downside of following a strictly traditional path, like Sadhguru is talking about in your video.
In particular, I would like to see Yoga integrate more modern biomechanics and scientifically rigorous health claims.
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6 hours ago, Ramzi08 said:@aurum why do I look to you like I don't want a serious relationship? I do want a serious relationship with her.
You said you were a non-believer?
If you do want a serious relationship with her, then I misinterpreted your post. Please clarify what you meant and the situation between you and her.
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10 hours ago, Ramzi08 said:my female best friend and I started flirting but when the question of a serious relationship between the two of us arose, she preferred to distance herself because I am a non-believer. It hurt me a lot. So my question is: does this constitute discrimination because of my ideas or just a matter of preference and taste?
It has nothing to do with discrimination.
She seems to believe in serious relationships and you don’t. So you two are not match in this context.
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14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:Not sure what your intention is with your post.
You say "I would argue your claims are way too strong." but simply is too late. It happens in my experience already. Is not something I fantasize about.
My intention is to dispel myths about yoga for anyone reading this.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:You say "I would argue your claims are way too strong." but simply is too late. It happens in my experience already. Is not something I fantasize about.
Fair enough, I can't disprove or prove whatever personal experience you've had with this.
But I'm also going to share my experience, which is that asanas are minimally effective for spiritual growth and basic health and wellness.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:My wild guess is that they were simply discovered by a Guru and transmitted it until my Guru. As I said, Yoga is not created is discovered.
They were not. Your assumption of how these asanas were created is too romantic.
I'd encourage you to read some history on this topic. I have already offered one credible text in my previous post: Yoga Body by Mark Singleton.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:The Asanas are already there, before humans even existed, because they are pure symmettry for the Absolute and deep states of non-duality.
No they have not.
This is the whole reason why I mentioned that asanas are mostly a modern, western development. People have created these romantic fantasies about why asanas exist. Which then encourages you to practice them more and more, thinking you are practicing some ancient spiritual technique that all the great yogis followed to become enlightened.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:Btw, if they are 'largley' a western thing. Where is the other part of the 'largely' that are not a western thing?
There certainly has been some Eastern influence.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:This does not make any sense. You have been with Yogis but yet you say Hatha Yoga is not traditional nor it works. Then how come there are Yogis doing them? Why they are doing in the first place?
Why they are doing a failed Yoga?
People can experience benefits from Hatha Yoga. Hatha Yoga might encourage you to be more physically active, to take care of yourself, to set aside time for self-care, to meditate, to breathe, to turn inward, to relax, etc. You could also find community of people doing the same, which can be powerful. Also, it might encourage you to contemplate, take psychedelics or get into deeper spiritual work in some other way.
So it's a mixed bag. It's not a simple as saying no one benefits from doing Hatha Yoga.
It's some combination of real benefits + real problems + spiritual group think + romantic fantasies.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:Do you even know what is a Yogi dude? Is not a guy in western california drinking matcha lattes and wearing organic cotton clothes. That doesn´t count. 😂
Real yogis never did modern-form asanas. Asanas not even in the Yoga Sutras.
The people doing modern asanas are mostly the people you are describing.
14 hours ago, Javfly33 said:See, this is why i already had an intuition of why you made the post. I kind saw you from 500 miles ahead after reading 3 paragraphs.
Seems you have a bit of projecting going on there.
Although replying to your question, I never said i was enlightened nor i won´t ever probably say such a thing.
Believe what you want.
I am not saying you believe you are enlightened. I am saying beware of thinking you need to create perfect symmetry in the body.
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9 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:Do these charges he’s been convicted of actually warrant a prison sentence? The sentencing is not until July 11, but if he appeals the charges, but is sentenced to prison on July 11, will he still go to jail?
The charges are strong enough. But the legal experts I’ve seen so far have said that it’s very unlikely he will face prison. So no.
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On 5/30/2024 at 10:24 AM, Javfly33 said:The Universe is symmetry, perfect balance. For you grasp it, you have to make yourself completely symmetric and balanced within you. Then all is accessible for you. Because you are it.
I very much disagree with this post.
I would read a book called Yoga Body by Mark Singleton. Asanas are largely a western, modern development and NOT part of yoga as a traditional practice.
This doesn't on its own doesn't mean that asanas are useless. But having done many hours of asana yoga myself and been around yogis doing the same, I would argue your claims are way too strong.
Asanas do not make you any more likely to download spiritual insights than just sitting comfortably or taking a walk. In fact, all those asanas can easily just become a distraction from contemplating.
You are also never going to "make yourself completely symmetric and balanced". There is no such thing in the physical body. So beware of chasing something that doesn't exist, on top of assuming it will make you enlightened.
In addition, all the physical stretching that typically comes from asanas is often not good for the body. This is especially true in schools of yoga like Ashtanga. You are basically asking for hyper-mobility problems.
If you want to practice asanas, just stick to the basic ones and stay away from most of the passive stretching. Keep your poses ACTIVE, i.e under your own bodily strength. And don't go down this rabbit hole of chasing more and more "advanced" poses. Huge trap.
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It’s shocking and completely not shocking at the same time.
Most of us here had an idea of what kind of character Trump was.
Now we wait and see what happens with sentencing.
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@Agrande All things in health and wellness require you to pick your battles. You have limited time and resources. So the question really is, is the EMF minimizaton battle worth fighting? And to what degree?
There are anecdotes about people who seem to be extreme electrosensitive, or those who experience ill effects from extremely high doses. But unless you'd fall into either of those categories, basic precautions will probably suffice. Don't strap your cell phone to your head all day and you'll probably be fine.
You can invest in earthing materials (www.earthing.com) if you want to go the extra mile. But you should also know that such products and practices have limited scientific consensus at this point. You could just be throwing away your money.
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15 minutes ago, strika said:All the videos Leo has made post 2015 i've seen at least twice, including that one, i already know his stance on them but the problem is he is being hypocritical and doesn't see the spiritual foundation that many of the major conspiracies are built upon.
People are dumping on conspiracy theories because there is so much self-deception going on in conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy theories are a deep trap.
I can create any theory with a "spiritual foundation".
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16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:
The shift you’ve made personally over the past year has been really noticeable. The tone, the authenticity and general maturity stands out to me a lot in the newer videos. Just wanted to reflect that and say thank you for making those changes and setting an example for us.
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On 5/25/2024 at 2:52 AM, zurew said:This guy says 1x1=2 , which would violate some of the fundamental math axioms (some math nerd on this forum probably can specifically spell out which axioms are violated and they can probably break down the logical entailments that would follow from such violation(s))
You don’t even need to be a math nerd to see the flaws. His “proof” doesn’t even follow basic laws of algebra. Most high school kids should be able to debunk it.
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6 hours ago, shree said:Thank you. I completed approximately 85 hours of water fasting, and it was a positive experience. Although I've heard from several individuals that it could be risky, I chose to proceed with it. For my next attempt, I plan to aim for five or more days.
Great, glad to hear it was positive for you.
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18 hours ago, OmniNaut said:I still cannot decide if the timing is perfect for AI to be introduced to the world or the worst thing.
There will certainly be a lot of devilry that goes down, that much is guaranteed.
It's just a question of whether it will be a net-positive or net-loss for humanity's development.
So far, I'm leaning towards net-positive. Humans have been developing revolutionary technologies for a long time, and they have mostly been net-positive in the long-term. I think it's a mistake to assume that our timing in history is so unique that this trend would stop. But it's a genuinely unclear situation that is near impossible to predict.
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On 5/18/2024 at 11:41 PM, shree said:Whatever risks exists related to not taking in nutrients for 72+ hours. You’d probably have to speak to a doctor or dietician with an understanding of fasting to get a real assessment of your personal risk profile.
The most obvious one to me is simply muscle loss. To put it plainly, if your fast causes you to lose muscle, then it’s hard to justify it in terms of cost / benefit.
Muscle is extremely valuable from a health perspective. But it’s also easy to lose and hard to gain back. You will be in an extended catabolic state while fasting and it’s very possible you could lose muscle.
Other potential risks could be dehydration from throwing off your electrolyte balance, exacerbating already present nutritional deficiencies, passing out, hypotension, heart palpitations etc.
In general, people in the alternative health community can be sloppy with their risk assessment of their various interventions. They will point out all the potential side effects of pharmaceuticals, but not mention their own.
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I'm not vegan myself but I am generally sympathetic to the cause. I think we can improve our relationship with the other animals on the planet. So I'm just going to lay out what I feel are a necessary criteria for anyone interested in making veganism more mainstream:
1) Show how veganism significantly reduces the externalities that come from human survival compared to eating meat. The accounting needs to be holistic, including whatever externalities are caused by a vegan diet, including things like Big Agriculture. This is much more challenging than I see many vegans admitting. It is not easy to significantly reduce externalities.
2) Show how veganism will be nutritionally superior, or at least on par, with eating meat. Right now vegans are losing on this point. But this may change in the future as we improve on things like lab grown meat, supplementation, etc.
3) Make veganism pragmatic and accessible to the average person. If people have to spend an extra 10 hours a day to be vegan, pragmatically no one will do so. It needs to be convenient.
4) You need to win a large culture war around the tradition of eating meat. Many people eat meat simply because it's a part of their culture and identity.
Just being mad at people for eating meat accomplishes nothing. And it's foolish to think you can just demand society change. You have to actually solve these problems.
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This guy's channel is so good at illuminating the geo-political chess game. 10/10
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1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:Probably, but it shows Israel is a criminal state.
Not legally. There would have to be a trial for that.
1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:It greatly damages their reputation, especially among European countries that actually take ICC into account.
Also It might affect US elections now that USA is basically backing up a criminal state.
Being put on the same basket as Putin (who has also an ICC warrant) is a big blow to Israel.
Maybe. It’s certainly not a good look for Israel. But given that there will be no trial, I suspect ramifications will be relatively minor.
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Do more basic, worldly things that require the wisdom of Blue and Orange.
For instance you could work at getting a well-paying job. Or raise a family. Or even work towards starting a business of some kind.
Success in these areas will necessitate discipline, personal responsibility, ambition, focus etc.
Also consider studying more basic personal development. Books like 7 Habits of Highly Successful People and Think and Grow Rich are some classics. Leo’s book list has a whole bunch of these.