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@flowboy this is more difficult than I thought. It is very simple actually but changing my self image isn't. When I was reading your post I thought: "no way I can pull that off". My thoughts were like "I can't even get a fucking text back, how can I persuade her to bring strawberries or icecofee". It all starts with inner game. I'm so fucked up by my parents that these things don't come natural to me. I'm insecure about what to text and I just screw it up. Sometimes I think I should just give up. I think I'm taking a break from pickup.

I'm afraid to be abandoned or not being loved. Or if my feelings become a subject of mocking.

I had awful parenting and that influenced a lot of my relationships or better said lack of relationships. I'm now in therapy for half a year.

Some women want men they can't conquer. You weren't a challenge anymore.

@Preety_India I'm very good at long as conversations. I got to therapy and I solved that problem. My issue is concerning the heart chakra. I'm afraid to be hurt. I build walls around my heart and nothing can go in and nothing can go out. My therapist is not into spirituality so she is just using conventional ways. Just having somebody to feel safe around helped me open up my heart chakra. With dating I still have problems. I get attached very quickly and I feel vulnerable. I know the solution: just expose myself until it is fixed but the thing is that I don't approach a lot so I don't have a lot of options.

@Preety_India I know what you mean. I just didn't know how to break the ice and I got tensed up and just asked her out. I thought if I ask about her jobless situation that is not sexy or something. I know that is stupid. To be honest I was not horny. I was just very insecure and I didn't know how to handle that conversation through text. I was afraid of being ghosted and that is what I got.

Thanks for the input. I know guys do this too. It is really how you interpret it. Me as a guy who is very introverted and not a lot of social experience it is hard not to take it personal. What helped me was to switch from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset. That is easier said than done. Changing mindset is very hard.

She was very hot so I thought this is a new plateau. And I thought I reached it. At this point I don't even have the energy to approach anymore. I need to change my mindset but I don't know how. This day game shit is very confrontational. I'm not a dude that is confrontational. I can only do like 5 approaches and then I retreat and analyze the shit out of it so I don't make the same mistakes. The big issue is self image. I don't believe I deserve a gf and these pickups are a way to prove the opposite. It is hard to let go of the negative assumption. I tried having positive assumptions but if the majority of girls are rejecting me it is hard to have positive assumptions like I deserve a gf. I did Tinder for a year and got almost no matches. I told people this and they say they don't get why I don't get matches. Nonetheless 1 year of tinder (during the lockdown) completely destroyed my self image.

It is hard to let that go. I'm a dude with needs but I honestly just wanted to go for a walk with her. And depending on her behavior I could try to pull her home but that was the least of my worries since I'm a noobie.

So what are the topics I should have talked about first? To be honest I thought I don't want to fuck this up. Let me just ask her out straight away since she agreed to go for a walk when I spoke her in person. She just lost her job. That is the only thing I left out in this thread. Other than that my approach was pretty good. At the end she was very enthusiastic, engaging and showed showed lot of interest.

I will relax when I get pussy ? There is too much competition on tinder. I'm not getting matches. I gave up on tinder. It is depressing to put it lightly.

I know but these kind of things destroy my motivation. She says she wants to go on a date but then she ignores me. What is going on? If she has better options why did she say yes in the beginning and afterwards ghost me. There is nothing left than to go on and keep approaching but these things do make me lose my innocence. If everybody is just after their best option, I should be too. Girls shouldn't cry about fuck boys, they create fuck boys by behaving like this!! Luckily the city-centre is like 10 minutes away so there are no great cost for doing pickup but there is a lot of mental and emotional strain. A lot of girls are cold, and it can get awkward very quickly. At this point I can only pickup girls who are interested in me right from the start. Also I'm very picky who I approach because I don't want to ruin my reputation in my city. Probably I will go to other cities and do approach streaks (like 20-30 approaches in a day). I'm new with day game, I'm doing this now for 2-3 weeks.

I texted her 2 days after meeting her. This was the conversation through text: Me: hi She: hi Me: how are you? She: good, you? Me: I'm fine too, tomorrow it is going to be good weather, do want to go for a walk? She: yes, that is fine Me: ok, let's meet at 14:00 at the gate *No reply* Me: ? (3 hours later) At that was the end of it. That is the only option right now because of Corona.

Let's say you make a billion and making a billion can't be done without some shady integrity. Once you get this billion, you repent and donate all your access money to good causes like actualized org and other stage turkoois venues. What is wrong with that?

I know what hedonistic adaption is. Personally I don't think I would want endless wealth. All I want is financial independence so that I can do what I want.

Even if you wanted you wouldn't become a billionaire. It is an extreme example to illustrate a point. Being 100% honest and have integrity will ruin your life......I challenge you to be 100% truthful to your boss and colleagues for 1 month and come back to this thread to report back........ if you still have an internet connection by that time! Come on. You can do it.

on what do they coach you? lol

Leo said billionaires can't become billionaires without being greedy. Read the forum rules. IMHO nothing wrong with hacking the matrix to get out of the matrix if that is going to save you tons of time. It should be done in proportion. Every big company wants to pay as less tax as possible and they seek the edge what is legal and not.

I really didn't get that DM. Leo wouldn't approve of it so you are lucky I'm keeping it a secret. I gave an extreme example. My point is that without lying surviving becomes very difficult. Even in first world countries and especially in second and third world countries.

@Enlightenment thanks for the heads up

If they were really aliens they would show themselves. At they would definitely not blink like that. I know because I asked them.

Reality is brutal and it does not care about being fair to you." -- Leo Gura Should you be fair to life if it is not being fair to you?

He is having an insight.

Something that can be touched.

Idealism and realism is a spectrum depending on the situation and person.