Apparition of Jack

But that progress is built off gruelling, often risky work. Civil Rights didn’t just happen. The abolition of slavery didn’t just happen. These things had to be fought for, by millions of people, against the powers that be that benefited from the corrupt status quo. Honestly, I’m not even saying become a revolutionary. I think old Marxist ideas are completely out of date. I’m not even sure if violence is necessary. But what is necessary is a degree of courage, selflessness and principled action most of us have just kind of forgotten about. We got to use to our cushy lives that the idea we could have a positive impact became alien to us. Calling out violence, racism and fascism isn’t a huge ask. Calling your local representatives, reaching out to vulnerable people, supporting holistic political causes isn’t a big ask. In fact, for living in some of the most prosperous societies on the planet, it’s probably the least you could do. And of course, if you’re up for it, attend protests. Be disciplined and non-violent, but resist government tyranny all the same. I’d like to point out that literally no one has died in these protests so far (compared to the Jan 6th insurrection, which led to multiple deaths.) Taking direct political action isn’t even some radical political idea - it was how America was founded. I don’t understand how all of this isn’t self-evident. If you’re a conservative for whatever reason this won’t appeal to you, but then I’d say… conservatism has failed in bettering the lives of people. All it provides is defense of greed, hatred and wilful ignorance. There are some good conservative ideas but they died as a legitimate political force in 2016 when Republicans decided Trump would make a good president. Why not be a force for good, in whatever capacity you can? Whether that’s as an activist, a community organiser, a politician, or even just someone who checks in on their neighbours? How tf is that so frightening? Lmao. Talk about a “male loneliness epidemic” 🤣 And always remember, we can and we will win. It’s written in the stars. The question isn’t a matter of if, but how. Will it come after 15 years, with constant relentless bullshit from fascist MAGA in the meantime? Or will it come much sooner than that, if only we work for it?

You know what I think it is? What it really just comes down to? We’re all afraid of being killed. That’s it. We’ve gotten so use to political stability and reasonable (enough) governance thar the idea that this things could fail and the institutions that should protect us instead could turn against us frightens the begeezus out of us. Which… of course it does. That’s scary as fuck. But… that’s where we are anyway. People could die. Well-meaning, sensible people could die. None of us chose this. Many of us chose to fight against this. But it found us all the same. Look, I don’t want to die more than anyone else. I enjoy my life here on earth and want to make the most of it. And I’m certainly not going to needlessly go out and provoke violence. But paradoxically sometimes the best way to protect yourself is to protect others first. “First they came for the unionists” and all that. If anyone here has a sense of faith or their higher power/self I feel like it’s time to put your trust in that. Learn to accept every day as it comes and believe in the fundamental goodness of humanity, no matter what happens. We’re eventually going to die anyway, why not at least try to uphold what you truly believe while you’re here? What’s the alternative? Just roll over and let fascism win? Let millions of people be oppressed, hurt, imprisoned, shot and killed while we do nothing? Especially if we had the chance to stop it? Why would anyone accept that? Is life with a jackboot over your neck really a life? You could argue that at least you’d be alive, but to what end? Just so you can get high / jerk off / slave away at a job in private? And especially when there’s a chance for a better future for everyone? Why content yourself with misery? Don’t any of you believe this world could be better? Freer, kinder, more creative, more uplifting? Are we just meant to be slaves for faceless corporations and vile political ideologies our entire lives? Is that all that it means to be human? Or is there the chance of something more? Something truer, more meaningful, more wholesome, more enlightening? Why not take that chance? Why waste the only life you’ve got pretending this is all you’re good for? We can actually do this, actually. It’s not impossible to build a better world. In 1939 everyone thought the Nazis would rule. A few years later Hitler was dead and democracy reigned triumphant. Why not follow in the steps of our forefathers? Why not believe in the world that’s already given us so much? We aren’t an evil species, and I’ll believe that until the day I die. Why give up?

I’m not saying other races don’t have problems. Clearly Latino, African etc countries are struggling. But I am saying that as a collective entity, white Americans holds far more power than all these other nations combined, and so if they choose division and chaos, they have a much greater chance to make this a reality. With power comes responsibility and all that, which is something I feel like a lot of white people have unfortunately forgotten.

I mean, call it intuition if you will. And yes, I do actually. Part of my goal is to bridge gaps between everyone, including people I vehemently disagree with. It’s just that sometimes you have to make a stand to defend the things you truly believe in. If someone from the right wishes to join me in fighting for freedom and democracy, I’m all ears.

That’s the problem though- it’s not that they won’t use those tactics, it’s just that (so far) it’s been too politically costly to do so. If Trump thought he cold maintain power forever by shooting a bunch of peaceful protestors, he would do so in an instant. We can’t let it get that bad. That’s the whole point of resistance - to make fascism so politically costly that it ends up defeating itself. Trump’s first term was largely reigned in by capable people putting a check on his worst impulses; this second time we don’t have that luxury. We genuinely have to fight like our lives depend on it because they may very well will. We can’t repeat the mistakes of the past. We have to show the world humanity is better than that, and that there is hope for all of us. We have to defeat fascism.

Leo is full of shit. A deeply confused man. A man who openly talks about the corruption of the Trump administration but then defend’s Trump’s illegal policies. A man who talks about the need for growth, love and consciousness but then stays in the same outdated thought-patterns he has for years. A man who talks about the need to question your biases then refuses to do so himself. I think he’s just scared at heart. A man unable to completely accept the collective reality he lives in and would much rather believe the comforting lie that he’s above it all. I don’t even hate the guy. I just wish he found the courage to admit his own weaknesses. EDIT: The worst part is, Leo would be an unmitigated force for good if he just put his ego aside and took to the sacred work of resisting tyranny and protecting humanity and democracy. His race, insight, wealth, connections, manner of speech and utterly impeccable epistemic foundation would be like a tidal wave of light and truth against all the endless, vile, racist, selfish grifter bullshit infecting the manosphere these days and politics at large. He would be nigh-untouchable to all the masses of confused white men unable to claw themselves out of epistemic and emotional poverty. If he committed to human activism, he could genuinely change the world, but he doesn’t. His heart is too full of doubt.

Just because they’re not openly advocating for the extermination of Latinos or whatever (although go on Twitter and you’ll see countless accounts expressing that exact sentiment), doesn’t mean their worldview isn’t fundamentally baked in anti-human white supremacy. A Nazi who “only” wants to deport every black and brown person from America regardless of the human cost is still a Nazi, they don’t need the death camps and swastika logos to prove this. A radical Islamist who calls for the death of the West and the final victory of Islam is still a radical Islamist, even if they don’t openly try to suicide bomb people (but then again they probably have obvious connections to groups who do.) It’s a sinister game of deflect and deny and I’m honestly tired of pretending that illegal mass ethnic deportations are “ok” just because the people doing so aren’t also waging war on Poland or whatever.

Maybe the US is broke. I don’t know. But a lot of that is just due to mismanagement of resources rather than an actual lack of financial / material capacity. If America can find the money to spend over a $1 Trillion of its Army, couldn’t it use that even just a fraction of that money investing in infrastructure, healthcare, etc? It would be one thing if America had an equitable tax system and it was broke, it’s another thing entirely when most of the wealth is being funnelled to the top and yet it still refuses to fix its most glaring issues. We can’t keep exempting taxes our way to prosperity, especially for the massive, unaccountable corporations that, like you say, are only focused on quarterly profits and not long-term nation building. EDIT: America should’ve spend the last 40 years heavily investing in education, healthcare, infrastructure, etc if it wanted to avoid social collapse. Instead we got the complete opposite, with less and less civic funding and more and more control to corporations who couldn’t give less of a fuck about the health, fertility or stability of the people in their society. It’s a spiritual sickness at its core; a delirious belief that profit alone will save us from death and that collective cooperation and nation building are… evil? Idk. It’s straight up Anti-Christ shit.

I don’t know, whatever I can? Resist? Organise? Get involved in anti-fascist and pro-democracy groups? Look out for my non-white friends? I’m just one guy, I can’t solve this alone. But I do know for there to be any justice on this earth Trump’s Nazi bullshit and his den of pigs need to be brought down for good. I don’t know the answer but I’m not going to stand by on the sidelines in the meantime.

Stephen Miller is a white nationalist using federal forces to illegally expel integrated Hispanic people from the country. There’s no other explanation for this other than he’s a Nazi who wants to promote white people at the expense of all other races.

If it walks like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, it’s probably a Nazi.

You’re a Nazi apologist. It’s so obvious that you are but you’d rather die than ever admit this to yourself. Trump and his cabinet are unequivocally Nazis. Stop trying to go to bat for them. It’s pathetic.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails/

Exactly this. Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, etc are legitimately all outright Nazis. As in, they have well-documented ties to neo-Nazi groups or have openly made statements favouring white supremacy. Neo-Nazis attacked the White House. Trump told the Proud Boys to “stand by.” MAGA is literally a Nazi movement. This isn’t controversial to say. The Shadow of Hitler still haunts the minds of selfish white Americans everywhere.

You mean like Jan 6th?

The same state that won’t even pay his son’s bills when that son comes down with epilepsy? How does that help his survival?

Unlike the wolf chasing the rabbit that ICE agent’s survival doesn’t depend upon locking up that school teacher. He could instead just go home and watch the football. I feel like this is basic logical induction, Leo.

Doesn’t seem like to me. That Mexican gym teacher being locked up isn’t meeting their survival needs.

Survival for who?

SMH. You’re a lost cause dude. I mean that sincerely. You’ve broken a sacred trust between the powerful and the powerless for the sake of your own egoic gain. For shame. For shame. For shame.

I mean, money is a lie anyway. The entire world is basically built off one entire phantasm. Call that looney Marxist talking points if you want but it’s also kinda true. Also, I’ve tried to see it from the other side, but am I really wrong for saying these deportations are literally unconstitutional? Regardless of emotional feelings, isn’t that just an objective fact? Or the fact that the vast majority of the protests have been peaceful? Or that Donald Trump led an insurrection? Again, ignoring personal bias, are any of those things false? I’m really not sure what it is you’re trying to teach me. If you’re saying I need to take a grounded, more realistic approach to politics, I’ve tried that, I’ve genuinely tried to see the case for harsh enforcement, deploying troops etc, but it’s genuinely been hard to come to any other conclusion than this is just massive right-wing overreach, even when taking everything into consideration, and especially when considering the hypocrisy of who’s committing them. And isn’t there also the case of defending individual rights, no matter what? Even if 99.99999% of the people detained are the worst criminals on earth (which isn’t true but let’s say it is), if even just one person was a law-abiding citizen or, hell, even a long term resident who just doesn’t have documentation, isn’t that an injustice to that person personally and their family? It’s easy to take a big picture perspective of all these, but does that really justify ignoring the personal, human cost of all these? Do individual humans count for nothing, or are we all just mere pawns in a game played by much bigger forces none of us can comprehend?

I suggest you drop the hard shtick and consider an opposite soft compassionate perspective, for your own illumination.

America has way, WAY more than enough resources to provide all of that to whoever comes to its borders. America is so absurdly productive it would feasibly house a billion people and not even break a sweat. The problem isn’t lack of resources, it’s where they’re distributed. When America collective decides its work is best used to provide countless private yachts, islands, jets, mansions etc for a handful of out-of-touch billionaires than provide for the needs of the people (both citizen and migrant), that’s when you get scarcity. Your average working American has more in common with that Guatemalan food packager than they do with the vultures circling the White House.

I mean, if we’re being as ontologically honest as possible Hispanic people have a greater claim to the land than white people do. Where else do you think the name “Los Angeles” comes from? But that’s beside the point. Migrants are a net economic positive for America. Like I said before, countless businesses literally rely on their cheap labour to be profitable. Why is no one going after those businesses? From all economic points of view the idea that undocumented migrants are a drain is observably false. The only “true” argument I can see against letting them in is just cultural and racial arguments, but I think white America has forfeited any claims to have a decent culture worthy of protection when they vote for a murderous rapist pedophile criminal conman traitor to the White House who, again, will not even give his own citizens healthcare.

This is an is/ought problem to me. It IS true that most Americans want to see brown people beaten with a stick and sent back to Mexico, but is that OUGHT how it should be? Do you really think there’s no room for ethics or human values in this equation?