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@Husseinisdoingfine Apparently Preety was banned, but there are rumors that she has another account made here and is living a new identity...

@zurew @Bobby_2021 I'm curious but do you both have some past history here??? Both your posts have some chemistry going on.

@Scholar Bro, stop right there. We're not talking about pedophilia for the past 7 pages. This woman was apparently suffering from some chronic depression, has BPD, and the psychiatrist miscommunicated which IMO warrants ethic board review and maybe legal lawsuit by her family or so. We're so not talking about her also having pedophilia or the psychiatrist having pedophilia, come on man!! It's tough trying to bring this back from Neo Advaita maze, now you want to derail into prepubescent attraction issues and maybe LGBTQ stuff? I completely denounce this derailing, it's just so bad! Bring it back to the OP's main topic please, come on.

@Bobby_2021 What's even weirder is that not only is it in the neverlands but their ancestors were like Vikings, you know? The warring types of of cultures that traveled and did their seasonal raids and pillaging, and where a pretty strong willed minded and bodied peoples and generally ruthless rounded. Like it's so interesting how despite that type of stage red/blue society history we're having increasing cases of Nordic people suffering from combinations of mental health issues, mental disorders and sometimes physical deficiencies and defects nowadays. Makes you wonder...what really went wrong then and now???

@Basman After many phases of thread derailing, from suicides to Neo Advaita versus other spiritual non-duality topics, to other topics related to euthanasia, let's bring it back to this OP's original post. SO! IMO, my thought is that this Psychiatrist, not state mandate just this psychiatrist and the local where she visits, has let her down tremendously! IDK why it's not an ethical issue of how this psychiatrist handled the ending of their session like that, just pessimistic nihilistic ending, without at least giving a hopeful statement to seek other kinds of help and not just robotically ending like there's NOTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU LOLZ! So blatantly irresponsible communication that the ethics board and even Mr. Girl would have a field day grilling this guy and getting his license revoked! Also there's just not enough information to make out here. Like if it's true she has tried EVERYTHING which can include the following: Tried psychiatrist. Tried therapy modals like CBT, R.E.B.T, Gestalt Therapy and so on. Tried psychoanalysis. Tried counseling. Tried help centers that specialize for autism and other specific mental health disorders she has. Tried other mainstream medicines, maybe stronger pain killers. Tried Alternative medicine and holisms like Chinese medicine, Yoga, Ayurveda medicine et cetera. Tried body and breath work, energy work, magical methods. Tried psychedelic assisted therapy. Tried Marijuana or other psychedelics with healing properties. Tried changing and experimenting on diet. And hundreds more! If she literally tried those hundreds of methods, and she was in daily suffering/pain, and it's chronic on a weekly/daily basis, and she tried all of them, then technically there's nothing anyone nor herself can do going forwards other than continue living. Least likely IMO, very likely she hasn't tried all of that I listed, only some and so much more left she could've explored. which pisses me off about these pessimistic psychiatrists because if she was just motivated enough the right way she would've discovered a helpful method, maybe for example Marijuana and psychedelic assisted therapy or something there, if only this psyche guy communicated the right way! Of course we gotta chill a bit because frankly some get away with far more horrific events than miscommunication, but IMO this miscommunication may have costed her life, which is just tragic... And last time I checked this sub forum's about society and politics! So WTF are we derailing into Neo Advaita spirit BS when we're dealing with real serious practical issue we can argue about?! Like how do we move forwards with spiritual circles when the real issue is how this psychiatrist handled this patient, how we're not discussing or debating patient/therapy relationships, or bringing up the ethics board standards? Come on guys we got another sub forum for spirit stuff, we gotta keep on topic.

I regret not being part of this thread sooner, wow it's kicking off now!

@zurew Nice looking modal and good visuals. Main issue with this hyper alien mind is literally @Leo Gura and maybe very few people are literal pioneers, and when someone's a pioneer there's only so much knowledge base and conceptions to go off of. It's actually pretty dangerous work as there's just so little to base precautions or protections, you just are literally like an explorer on some alien planet, literally that dangerous and exciting. Another big issue with alien mind is we're still mostly extremely selfish to just collectively go hyper mind. 100% willing to bet if you got telekinesis, you'll use that selfishly. Horny teen with telepathy and telekinesis is just a recipe for chaos.

@Buck Edwards STOP! Elon's got Twitter-sorry X- don't give him anymore ideas. I want him to actually refocus and make some cool stuff in Tesla or SpaceX and not to clown so much in X. Elon's gonna be a legit addict to Tik Tok if he takes it over, and then when that happens we'll legit have a strong argument to ban Tik Tok then.

@Leo Gura Which is why I'm offering not just a ban, but heavier regulation of Tik Tok. Tik Tok isn't doing itself any favors by not trying to increase more knowledge or educational clips to try and not make it mostly trashy BS click baits. Oh and before I forget @Juan's framing is a false dilemma here, as I've demonstrated a market or something isn't limited to should/shouldn't ban, but there's also regulation levels to consider as well or other alternatives.

Now this is a good example of a demagogue: Yep, 90% BS and not quite truthful, but look at that performance and charisma! Pretty easy to get charmed and persuaded by that level of communication.

@thenondualtankie I agree it's geopolitical warfare and soft invasion into young western minds by China. It may well be a bit disruptive for those creators and businesses heavily relying on marketing via Tik Tok, but that's their risk of investing into such a dangerous app in the first place. Also, Vines before Tik Tok did well but Facebook didn't capitalize enough that Vines ended shortly, but ByteDance with CCP help and funding with Tik Tok is now like vines but more money to creators and more addictive. They are devils. I also agree, either heavily sanction or outright ban Tik Tok to send a strong message to CCP that this type of soft invasion ain't tolerable!

@Juan Because it applies especially to Tik Tok! YouTube and Instagram for example still have time markers, while Tik Tok clips don't, which manipulates perception of time for the users. YouTube and Instagram do not contain much addictive imaging and audio stimuli, meanwhile Tik Tok has massive amounts of addictive stimuli and scroll time. YouTube and Instagram do not contain that much sexy stuff and shady sexy things shown, meanwhile 1/3 of Tik Tok did contain shady sexy stuff. YouTube and Instagram never had to make a S.T.E.M only section and has recently applied filters and sections intended to be more family friendly, meanwhile CCP China had to heavily regulate their Tik Tok and give ByteDance the unregulated stuff to sell abroad western audiences. Even YouTube felt the need to copy their formula a bit to introduce shorts, which is mostly garbage level content even @Leo Gura has moral qualms about for his content!

A fascinating watch, and if you could check it out on Joe's podcast. This is a great example of bias, ego and preference at play, how the ego coopts arguments and logic to defend it's own intuitions and emotions, how powerful worldviews and environments are, and why study and contemplation of Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego developments, Architypes, and many other developmental psychology modals, and being aware of our metanarratives, ideological beliefs indoctrinated by cultural/societal programming, information ecology leveraged by big tech and big companies, mainstream bias manufacturing consent in majority of population. Even in the tonality and body language of this Dibbi guy, the one with the Indian Johns looks, see how emotional, dismissive, and defensive he really is. Observe and pick that up, along with his refusal to look at Graham Hancook on occasions, mostly blocking gestures with his left hand on left headphone piece. Look at how emotionally defensive he is, both non-verbally and tonally he's insecure and passive aggressive, hear that inflex at some of his defensive statements. Already betrays how deeply biased he is, in fact this guy's has just stated outright how passionate he is, how much he takes and follows on his father's footsteps, it a narrative in his mind that anchors and tethers his ego's existence here. Already shows how biased he is and the confirmation and cognitive biases at play in his metaprogramming in his mind! Which not to say that Graham Hancook is right in his theory. I do think both are being a bit biased here, and considering the canceling and censoring attempts by mainstream science it's understandable to see him also a bit emotionally charged, yet I found his performance here in some of the debate moments as measured and calm when the other Indiana Johns guy was a bit defensive.

@Juan My thoughts are Tik Tok SHOULD BE HEAVILY REGULATED. If not, BANNED! Too many children on iphone tablets experiencing brain rot from these predatory social media sites, especially Tik Tok. It's that bad that the CCP of China had to make 2 versions of Tik Tok, one mostly about S.T.E.M topics, and the other unregulated one is given to ByteDance for western audiences. How people are still unaware of this ideological and information warfare, of how China's long term goal of destroying western minds for future generations and is now slowly catching up is abysmal leadership by the west.

Very interesting debate here, shows the anti mainstream and mainstream bias at play:

Great example of the good and bad of debating:

A great example of logic appealing and bias for objectivity and definitions: No, Art is both subjectivity and objectivity, so by extension music is both subjectivity and objectivity, so by extent all the sub categories within ART, and within MUSIC, for instance 'Rap Music' is BOTH OBJECTIVE AND SUBJECTIVE!! It's just such a I want to argue/debate this guy so badly that I can taste the flavors of the air around me. It's so annoying most people have this implicit appealing to logos, never mind ethos and pathos but logos, thinking the universality of logos prevails against all things.

Oh right! Before I forget: The Jewish state and the alt right Zionists retaliated against GB army after they were trained, and after they knew that GB wanted to divert the flow of Jewish immigration onto Palestinians. Can we expect a reasonable chance there'd be resistance similar to this if America decides to reign in Israel?

@MellowEd That's a lot of counties threatened by Israel...IDK how America will handle this.

@Davino Well IMO this hyper mind is just a hyped mind, yes pretty different but there's little practical value of a hyper mind. Realistically nobody here or in a group is going to have alien minds in our lifetime, maybe neural link but nothing that is mass psychedelic, which is fine and good because I don't want to get into a car accident just because I suddenly have alien mind.

@Jodistrict It's not that John Mearsheimer is being misquoted, it's that we're seeing a pattern and implying from it that it's this doomer mentality and apocalypse story. I technically agree here that Mearsheimer is also inferring just like us, and is commenting that things will get worse.

@lina Okay, let's say you're right, we're all past arguing if or that is genocide, and Carthage really wasn't wiped out by Rome, fine. Okay, how do we move forwards from this though? First of all, if you say protesting is gonna do it, it's least likely. Netanyahu and cabinet still gonna move forwards with this war even with an unhappiness level of 10 points or below. Believe me, I've played enough Civilization games, mainly Civ 5 and UniCiv, that it's possible to send armies out even with an unhappy population. Also, considering the geopolitical and geographical nature of this conflict, sorry but Israel functions as a beach head onto middle eastern growing powers from which western powers can exert some influence, so they aren't going to not stop being relevant one way or another.

@lina Definitions are important in discussions and arguing/debating because definitions establish common ground between arguers, establishes valid reasoning, establishes an exchange of ideas even though sometimes it can get heated. Without definitions enforced or even implied then language itself and communications break down. Might as well redefine Nazis as chocolate bars to sell in rave parties.

@Hardkill OF COURSE! It's predictable that John Mearsheimer, proclaimed realist pessimist would sya there's no future and do this doomer and apocalypse narrative. I do think he gets some points right, but for this specifically he's a bit inaccurate. For example, we're and he are so worried about nuclear warfare, yet wolves of Chernobyl are doing fine, and the general wildlife and even plant flora are for some reason fine and have recovered from that nuclear disaster. Yes in terms of evidence and proof to counter how deadly nuclear fallouts and outcomes are is limited, I mean we only have the pacific war and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, numbers of nuclear tests, and a few nuclear plant failures, and yes I only have Chernobyl as one example, but so far wildlife there were speculated to not be able to recover and exist yet wildlife has adapted to radiation levels. Obviously there are zones and too close to nuclear reactor is a bit dangerous, but farther away it seems the wildlife and plants are resilient and have adapted.

@Jayson G Just because she's credible, a journalist, and is in Lex Fridman's podcast that it persuaded you into thinking that nuclear wars is a serious threat? Really? Maybe for the current ecosystem, humans and information age we live in I'd mostly agree, but for mother earth? An existential threat for future lifeforms? for other planets? Meh.