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@Pavement I don't know what's missing, but we should definitely have anti bodies at this point, of course for those who have survived the covid virus. I don't know whether the virus has evolved a way around due to the spiked proteins it has. it surely is an abnormal virus.

@rnd But Ivermectin is an anti parasitic drug though...

@Consept I can agree, that on pure anecdotes and being dogmatic, just talking dogmatically like conspiracy theorists isn't helpful and just parroting talking points without the experience is being a blind sheep which can cloud the issue of which member is just believing versus which is genuinely experiencing a problem. While the main issue is psychological identity and attachment to the narrative and fear mongering and misinformation, the person/group's cognitive, moral, ego development, personality typing, and these exist at the level of collective, I'm more concerned with this key issue of life experiences at the individual level. Especially when, an individual has directly experienced a side effect of such a treatment with little warning beforehand that effect half or more of that person's life. The main problem in that situation is what does that individual do then? You can't just give a blanket advice of go see your doctor, because chances are that most traditional doctors are in the middle of a psychological, social, political, economical and cultural warfare of misinformation, specifically coming from anti vax, alternative medicine paths and other related ideologies that are not just anti vax but anti traditional western medicine. In that ecological context, the individual's problems relating to the vaccine will likely get swept aside in facor of searching for other factors to narrow down, zoom in on and reduce to as the cause instead of the particular vaccine reaction. It could lead to a waste of time. I wasn't warned about the potential side effect of the mRNA spike protein in the Pfizer vaccine, and now I have to deal with heart arrhythmia, which consequently led to me reducing my overall physical output in other parts of my life at the moment. This also consequently led to my emotonal fitness being lowered, being more depressed. This is real and directly experienced by me, and it is not just mental narratives in my head. I hope this problem gets resolved soon and I get some compensation one way or another, cuz now I'm dealing with that and exploring other potential factors as well. Again, I'm speaking not just for me, but for the very very few who have experienced those side effects. I'm not speaking for or support anti vax related ideologies, and hope that some of you see past this ideological warfare and just help the individuals who have those problems with the side effects. I have received some help from some users here already for my ongoing healing of my problem, so do so for someone who asks help for what to do insteadof shutting them down. This part I'm speaking broadly to those reading.

What are the alternatives for the few negatively effected by the vaccine? That's the main issue that needs clarifying, not anti vax ideology and virus conspiracy theories. What do you do if you're negatively effected in your direct experience??

@SgtPepper Was this because of your career choice as a nurse, or they do a general check if you're vaccinated?

@Lyubov I get this is tiring, which is mostly coming from users who spin this into anti vax and conspiracy fear mongering, but the vaccines do have side effects, a few people do actualize them, so to me it's worth having a discussion about them openly to a certain degree on it's effects and how to manage them. It's just that topics like this get derailed for the most part, so instead for a valuable discussion, we end up getting derailed to nothing. Keep in mind, for the very few who are effected, the effect can alter their lives to sometimes negative extent.

@Lyubov Ok, no need to get hostile towards uneducated Gurus. Most of them are not that privileged and have access to the same education as somebody else who has that and more.

Epic rap battle of history. Not a positive piece of art, but pretty good acting and video production.

@DocWatts @Carl-Richard I wish we could have discussions about the health aspects of vaccination and the virus openly here, without it derailing into heated back and forth plus repetitive talking points from anti vax and conspiracies around the virus itself. It's a very low probability that the vaccination side effects is more lethal than the effects of virus, but for those very few that have actualized those side effects, it would be helpful for those few negatively effect to discuss and share resources in handling such effects. Unluckily I'm one of the very few myself. As for vaccination mandates, it mostly depends on the country and population and that society. If those places in general do not have preparations nor are sensitive to germs, versus places that are more prepared and more aware of germ effects, then enforcing mandate on just those countries that are not prepared is justified. The main issue is that needs a bigger system to oversee smaller systems that can adjust quickly, which is pretty difficult in practice.

@Preety_India Again, thank you so much for the sharing of sources, I will check them out later.

@hyruga It's related to the recent shot I had taken yes, but it's not the direct cause, it made an underlying subtle condition I had worse. Of course, don't take this as anti vax speak, I'm not telling you not to take vaccine. but treat this as a heads up if you have a similar condition, and lreally look after your health.

@Yarco Never smoked tobacco, tried once and didn't like the taste at all, but I occasionally drink tea, and my main drink is coffee so I'll consider limiting the coffee down. My max pulse, in the past, was roughly 170 to 180 beats per min. My resting beats per minute is around 90 to 94, and depending on activities, can raise to 110 to 120 and sometimes 140 for more demanding physical work, stress or mental exertion. I do have high blood pressure as well. The heart arrhythmia is what I'm having lately, and in the past the heart fluttering was random but not as frequent. The specific event in question is the first week of my Pfizer jab, that one triggered my frequent heart fluttering. Before the jab, my fitness levels were above average, I exercise like 2-4 times a week strength based, body weighted isometrics, and once a week I do steady state cardio and not high intensity interval training. I mostly get 7-8 hours of sleep, but 6-5 depending on stress. I do try to nap, if I can 1 hour. My health/diet is much cleaner now than in the past, like I used to drink soda frequently but I cut that out over time, replaced it with honey and tea/coffee, and I used to eat meals that were moderate in fat and carbs but high in protein, but I lessened that over time. In terms of mental fitness/cognitive performance, I'm average but sometimes I can focus really hard on something, and that sometimes effects my heart rate so I'm taking it easy. I terms of my emotional fitness, it's below average because I experience more negative emotions more than positive ones, plus this heart fluttering has me more depressed than usual. I had to work and study as easily or more relaxed than usual. Some of my hobbies I can perform well, like dancing or martial arts, I have to take it easy, and drawing isn't that effected. The heart fluttering were random and not as frequent in the past, but sometimes there's pain and sometimes not.

@Wildcattt555 Because for the most part, threads about the vaccine can get derailed into oblivion. Even if the OP intends to have a discussion and try not to debate or be negative, other users can inadvertently or intentionally troll or derail the threads. Also, Leo has lumped anti vax with red/black/blue pill ideology, and conspiracy theories he considers harmful, so he's limiting the topics to such harmful ideas. I'd like to talk about the side effects of vaccine and how to best manage them because I experienced a few, but I sometimes worry that a thread like that can get derailed and nothing of value comes out of that, or users troll and nothing of value is imparted. He's trying to limit harm and damage control it seems to me.

@Preety_India The worst part for me at that time, and with past flu jabs, was the needle and the soreness and sometimes the temporary phantom pains. It goes away roughly 4 or so days. It never gets easier over time. But this frequency in heart palpitation lately is a bit worrying. I suspected I may have had an underlying issue with my heart, considering on past occasions when I had to exert more effort, or when I ate a meal a bit high with fats, my heart tended to skip beats more. However, back then it was infrequent and few and I thought then it's not a big issue back then, and lately my diet is ok and am guarding against too much fat/high cholesterol consumption. Am gonna speak to the doctor soon about my condition, and about the omicron variant booster I'll wait a bit to see if the research on omicron symptoms is as severe or not as the previous ones, I definitely don't want to worsen my heart with shots if I can help it. If any one's reading, any supplementations, nootropics or anything else you can recommend help with this heart issue, please share.

I've received my first dose of Pfizer vaccine shot a month ago and am scheduled to have the second in the middle of January. I've been dealing with irregular heart beats after the first shot since more frequently than in the past. So far my fitness routine took a drastic hit and now I keep the activity very low. I sleep the 7-8, nap, and eat ok, whole foods stuff. Studies, work and hobby are at bare minimum. General socializing with family, friends and people is more limited, as now I've developed a more stressful response to going out, which isn't good for my chest. Had to really limit down the sex part of my life, as that adds to the stress. I can't also do my regular mediation routines as well. Has anyone else experienced this side effect, and if so, what are you doing to manage this?

@Thought Art LOL, maybe a coral shirt to show he transcends SD.

For those who want a basic definition of solipsism: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj2paOLuPP0AhWJjqQKHa97CCUQFnoECDsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSolipsism&usg=AOvVaw3e7EB8Nnh-xxkUA_J7r7On

Leo's next level dress is either yellow shirt, or rainbow shirt.

What is solipsism anyways?

@Fandango Might depend on your horniness being relatively the same. Although yes, as you get older, you get less horny over time.

@TheAlchemist It's not spot on, but great insight nonetheless. This is why a strong selfish ego, a matured one, is useful.

@ChrisZoZo It's pointless asking here, because you'll always hear similar answers along the lines of 'its the truth', 'cuz it's the present moment', 'it's infinity, god'. Better off contemplate this elsewhere or in private, where the insights have more distinction in it.

@Striving for more Works for a bit.

@Arcangelo Relatively speaking, I'm alright despite a few side effects of the vaccine and my family members turned out better than me in handling the vaccine. The mandate for vaccines policy I think depends on which countries are getting the mandate. Some countries most people are more responsible with handling sickness without being enforced by gov, but other countries need some enforcement as the people there are just not able to handle the sickness and have lower . Some people/places have groups with little to low fear of germs, while other places have higher tolerances for it. I sometimes think it all depends on the stage, cognitive, moral, and life experiences/history of the person/people in regards to dealing with a pandemic to epidemic illness collectively. Of course, at the individual level it's much harder to assess at this level how one can help at the collective because it's more complicated, but I do think some germaphobia and awareness can help. The whole situation is boinkers. Complete boink boink. We had covid delta varient, now it's omicron, next might be alpha, beta, omega. Can we have omega tron varient next?

A swing and a miss.