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@EternalForest How is Andrew Wilson wrong in this debate, and how is he not good faith? He merely reflects the smugness back at Matt, and attacks a ramification of secularism humanism from Matt, right after in Matt's opening speech misrepresenting the Christian worldview and ethics? Seems like Andrew then has the right to misrepresent Matt's version of secularism and humanism no? Also, Andrew even if aggressive he's right pinpointing Matt's cherry picking and selective bias in that he uses secularism and humanism and rationalism to justify why he's dating a trans person. Due to Matt not defining human flourishing, this allowed Andrew to pojnt out Matt's hypocrisy. Yes, it's not in good faith nor good will and isn't charitable, and doesn't fit the definitions of a debate, but Matt attacked his worldview first and misrepresented Christianity which gives Andrew that opportunity to counter. Also, IMO Matt Dillahunty looks the coward when he rage quits like that before open panel even starts. I do know that based on many developmental factors like spiral dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing and traits, ego development, life experiences and other lines of development in life and societal domains, ideological differences and indoctrination by family upbringing, culture, social media, newspapers, radio, video, tv programs, and many more information points to manufacturer consent in consumers, that Matt and Andrew are different perspectives with very similar debate and arguing styles. However, perspectives must fight via debates and arguments, even if jt may be losing, lose gracefully.

@Buck Edwards Try boxing, and martial arts. For values, it's seeking dominance, bravado, machismo, conquest, the will to power, winners mentality, ambition, drive, will power, killer intent and killer instinct. Shadow work and Archetypes by Carl Jung is a good place to start.

@AerisVahnEphelia I explained my views on Japan in this thread here a bit so I won't derail this thread: From what I know, Japan's government is much more conformist and collective orientated than the USA government. Culturally speaking it's a mix of hyper modern to ancient, which makes it interesting. Plus anime and manga too.

@Happy Lizard Book worm Osho?😂

@Lila9 Because the USA holds real superpower, not the UN. At best the UN gives sanctions bht the superpower enforces those sanctions and embargoes. This is why they need a strong enforcement arm from men to protect themselves against ISIS/HAMAS. Pure feminism and egalitarianism is not enough in these places, you are dealing with spiral dynamics stage purple/red groups that don't respect stage orange/green valued cultures and the left wing of the west, they'll happily slaughter, rape, torture, and enslave stage green valuing groups due to lower cognitive and moral development, personality typing and traits, ego development, consciousness, other lines of development in life and societal domains, and ideologically differences. Environment and ecology plays a factor as well. Legitimate resistance? I don't know how you'd define resistance, maybe you're thinking in terms of democracy resistances, but there's plenty of historical events of freedom fighters and revolutions that turned bloody, coups like the Frend revolution, the American war of independence, the American revolution, the Apache and Comanche conflicts, and many more. The average of all revilts turn violently, with few peaceful resistances. How do you know what should or shouldn't be tolerated and justified, if they don't have a patriarchal organisation of stage red/blue military or police to enforce women's rights and feminism during the Israel/Palestine conflict? Do they even care, as the survival of Palestine, Gaza and West bank, and the survival of Israel as an ethnostate is at stake here? What is your version of feminism that is different to that organisation's form of feminism? I do agree with you, yes to ISIS and HAMAS those are justified evils. Rape, torture, murder, theft, genocide of Jews and Isralis are in thejr perspective, because of their stage purple/red values, is fine as that's a show of dominancr and strength. Don't like it? Better arm yourself or come with a group armed and ready to fight them and enforce your rights then. Feminism helped the world globally? Has feminism and egalitarianism in Japan, South Korea, Russia, and other westernized countries helped improve the birthrate crisis? Helped improve intaked family homes and reduced divorce rates?

How's this for a geographical reconstruction contextualizing?

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@CARDOZZO

@CARDOZZO Also, do you have a specific demographic you are appealing to? Considering that most of your examples cited are white, cisgender males, in their mid 30s to 40s, if that is your poll to source inspiration and your intentions us to seek new pathways for creativity, why would you only limit your examples to white cisgender mid 30-40 males, yet have your target audience be as many people as possible throughout all demographics and psycho graphics? Are you aware of your own biases being projected?

@CARDOZZO again, how are these examples going to open people's minds to seek new synthesis of careers, when said pioneers and geniuses are too unique to emulate, and too masterful and powerful that it's more disempowering than empowering? Especially if we factor in developmental factors?

Nobody wants to post your thoughts? No objections? Gonna let Andrew Wilson steamroll this with no refutation?

@Basman I agree with this. For example, the Russian human arts schooling do have those curriculums that build ontop of each fundamental art principle, block by block. However, the tradeoff is that there will be bias for traditional methods of drawing, and the teachings would be expensive if you do want to specialize later on.

@chisel That's so true, for example Kentaro Miura and Kim ung Gi are talented artists, Miura for making the Berzerk manga, what a fantastic manga, and Kim for being able to draw from multiple perspectives and being verg accurate in form.

@PurpleTree It does make sense based on many developmental factors like spiral dynamics values, cognitive and moral development, personality typing and traits, ego development, states and modes of being and becoming, consciousness levels, other lines of development in life to societal domains, ideological indoctrination, grooming and gas lighting by family upbringing, community, culture, news, social media, videos, radio, newspapers, tv shows and tv channels, schooling, and many other information ecology points that manufactures consent in viewers and consumers. A stage blue religious fundamentalist, who identifies and self imaged as a rabbi of Judaism, of Israel, and Israel gets attacked by Hamas in Palestinian territory, that fundamentalist will have a cognitive blindness and pass for the ethno centric ethnostate that Zionists and religious nationalists in Israel, and a thought terminating cliche kf Palestinians being bad and Israel being just good, so anyone pointing out this binary framework of this priest will be evil.

Happy 202 page.

One good example of what I mean: Parr inspirational, part despair. How can anyone be able to attain such strength?

@CARDOZZO By wanting to make a megathread listing pioneers and geniuses too unique to emulate, do you seek the purple megathread tag, or are you listing people so unique that it enforces idolatry and pedalling those higher than you? If the intention of this thread is to open our minds to create new paths in ourselves/humanity, does that mean higher introversion? And why would you list the most extraordinary people for us to emulate? In one perspective it mag create inspiration, but it may also dispirit and be daunting for us to emulate.

@The Renaissance Man More like scared of ignorance, evil and suffering from immaturity.

@Carl-Richard Good example of immature handling of discourse.

@Karmadhi @PurpleTree Shows how intense this topic is now. Nice profile.

@Willie Me too. If Jupiter had life, most organisms in it's planetary environment would evolve to fly, or 'swim', or have gaseous or cloudy forms that can shift forms. Imagine a school of fish, but bits of clouds, and bigger or stranger shaped clouds as predators preying in other cloud particles.

Immaturity is hiding and cowardice, like taking down a video for little justification when that video is incriminating.

Interesting example of stage purple thinking and family/tribe value. This makes sense based on many developmental factors like value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality typing and traits, ego development, states of consciousness, other lines of development personal to societal, ideology indoctrination from family upbringing, community, culture, newspapers, tv shows, radios, videos, social media, mainstream/alternative news, forums and other points of information ecology via manufactured consent, in order to influence and inform one's worldview and thinking/seeing/heating/feeling sense making apparatus of the world we live in. However, there are still exceptions and history can repeat itself, for example that Yucan new village may be the first of it's kind, wait for few generations, and add more groups in that region, and you'll get something similar to Native American tribal warfare over natural resources and human resources, for example the Apache and Comanche conflicts, followed by early Spanish settlements vying, as well as other European settlers, for resources and living as well. Without an intelligence to develop an enforcement arm to protect your little village against other collective ego structures, other egregors that seek to consume smaller egregors and assimilate them into their developing ideology, they cannot survive. Just like how mesopotamian swallowed up the indus valley civilisation.

@CARDOZZO Awe, u feelins stil hurch that I saib somthink bat ubout your idol daniel Schmachtenberger? Buddy, it's a critique, and an argument yo dodged in that thread. Admit defeat, grow up and move on.

@SeaMonster Sorry, that man is not the voice of reason, he's the voice of discord.