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Before you post any further, please learn English. Work on some reading comprehension skills. If you actually read all of his posts, you would see that his ego is bullshitting him, he is just trying to find reasons and justifications to make it look like he is above "sex", and that not having sex will lead him to enlightenment. Put him in a situation where there would be a woman who he finds very attractive wanting to have sex with him, you can be sure that he would do it. It's much easier to sit on a couch, and write on a forum all day, trying to come up with excuses for your misery, instead of taking action and creating the life that you want to have. Yes I find it cringy and pathetic, and I am not shy to use those words.

Your self-bias is blinding you pretty bad. The reason why you are not having sex is not because you CHOOSE to go celibate, but because you HAVE no choice. Instead of whining and creating "spiritual" justifications for your misery, work on yourself and find yourself a partner with who you can be intimate. It is beyond cringy and pathetic

@SQAAD This is your answer. Weather you have sex or not have sex is not going to make it or break it.

@MezzoAria @pluto You totally nailed it, unfortunately majority of LEO's followers don't realize this. A lot of times it does feel very incongruent - his teachings are not totally embodied by him, and the "spiritual ego" that he developed is what keeps him stuck.

You are way overthinking and over analyzing this. It is far more simple. The ego-mechanism is the same and works the same way for every human. Whenever I have confronted Leo or have seen others confront him, he has reacted the exact same way that the people who he calls devils do. He either defends his position till the end with many justifications, or either totally ignores you. And he is 100% convinced that he is right - that I already know no matter what anyone says, they would not even make him consider changing his mind. (Based from my observation, his biggest self-bias lies in his political views. ) I never seen him say (on this forum): 1) I don't know, I might actually be wrong 2) I will re-consider my position When I go back and look at my own behavior, I have done the same and still do to this day. Everyone does.

This is not true, this is what MSM likes you to think. Unfortunately even Leo is not immune to it. His reponse to Sandy Hook stuff was taken totally out of context, and was used to totally destroy his reputation. If you look at all his interviews that he done with MSM networks, they were all cut, taken out of context to make him look like a crazy guy. In actuality he admitted that he was wrong on Sandy Hook and apologized for it. Other than that, a lot of other things that he said turned out to be true. Watch his interview on valuetainment, and the stuff that he said on Logan Paul podcast. Some arguments are not well structured, but a lot of things that he says actually make sense This is not the case of false equivalency. It is the case of distorted perception. If you would erase everything you "think" you know about him, and just watch his uncut interviews, or uncut footages, and try to see him for who he is without self-bias - you would see that he is not mentally ill. The self-bias runs very deep and this is a good example. Do you actually think he was kicked off all social media platforms because he is "dangerous" to society? Of course not lol

Of course a devil would say that and deny his own self-bias. It's ironic that you react the same way the people who you call devils do. How can you expect others to examine their own blind spots, when you are not willing to do the same (when encountered) ?

You preach radical open mindedness, yet you repeat the same rhetoric that the MSM does about Alex Jones, because you are unaware of your own self-bias. He may seem "crazy" to you, but a lot of things that he said turned out to be true. It is not as black and white as you make it out to be.

Imo, you don't understand what Sadhguru is really saying here. His point, is going after those things is a huge distraction (gratification for the ego), and this is like you said, why most people in the occult don't become liberated or reach the highest levels of consciousness. It becomes a huge ego trap. If you think he is full of shit on many things - you clearly are not there to understand it - that's just my opinion and 2 cents. (I have seen a lot of bullshit from other gurus though)

@Leo Gura Could you please answer these questions or at least address them in your videos?

My point was nuanced here, you don't seem to get it. Weather I am typing on keyboard or not, is irrelevant here. It's not an assumption - there just is no reason for me to assume that it does, until I directly verify it. And even it does, it is only relatively true, because at the end of the day it's all you. (there is no "other" from absolute perspective)

Not everything is, there is absolute truth as well. The absolute is the radical non-duality that I am talking about, and so does Leo in his videos for example.

It's only a fair statement, if those people also are highly awakened. Unfortunately like you said, majority of them do not transcend their egos. You have to remember that even if those things that you mentioned would be true - they would still only be relatively true - because from a non-dual perspective, it's all you, it's all just God playing with itself. (So those entities, spirits, etc that you view as "other" is all you anyways). Labels do matter, because a lot of them keep people stuck from having a non-dual realization.

Although I have done many other psychedelics such as N-DMT many times and have had intense breakthroughs on them, none of them come anywhere close to 5-MEO. It's in it's own category, and that has altered my perspective more than anything else, some others on this forum say the same thing. I never said that it's the only way to know ,but it is by far the most direct and effective way imo. I was curious if you have done, how it changed your perspective. This is what I am trying to get to you. It is more honest to say that you don't know, then to make things up about the nature of reality. Paranormal exists - but how can you know for sure as for what it is that you experienced, to attach labels of "spirits", "souls", etc? It is a subjective experience - so you have to be careful to not delude yourself.

I have done a lot of psychedelics, a lot. I asked you specifically, if you have done 5-MEO DMT, as no other psychedelics pales in comparison. Have you smoked 5-MEO DMT, how many times, and have you had full breakthrough experiences with 5-MEO DMT? Please answer this specifically. So regarding the success of summoning spirits, you are basically referring to the principles of the law of attraction - you essentially you are manifesting it?

@Danioover9000 Have you ever done any psychedelics? What about after meeting Crysty? If so, how were your trips like, and was Crysty there during your trips?

It is quite possible that the people who you considered to be "enlightened masters" were not actually "enlightened". Also, it doesn't really matter if they were or not, I just brought up Buddha as an example - he rejected something that was a popular belief at his time. You are the one that is introducing extra explanatory agents such as "spirits", "souls", etc, not me. So the onus is on you to provide the evidence, understand that? There is a difference between "beliefs" and "knowing". When I go outside and sun is shining and I feel it's warmth, I don't hold a belief about the sun, I have a knowing because of direct experience. My knowing comes from direct experience, and the most important knowledge that I got was from 5-MEO DMT. A lot of people claim to experience different things, but that doesn't automatically make it it to be any "true" or "real", you see? Have you done 5-MEO DMT before? I don't think that you have. I would be interested to hear your perspective after you have done 5-MEO DMT at least a few times, with full trips. Write out a full effective method on how to summon spirits. If what you are saying is true, I should be able to do it and verify it for myself. I am open-minded and open to doing so. Show me the way and I will try, until then - I am not going to adopt any beliefs.

As you know, the concept of Atman was rejected by Buddha, and is the main difference between Buddhism and Hinduism. Enlightenment is also something that cannot be reached or achieved. Ego is simply a false identity that you construct for yourself. Weather it is "atman", or the "soul", it is just another egoic construction. Merely experiencing something is not equivalent to it being "real" in any objective sense. People are confused about what they experience all the time. There is no evidence for the things that you are claiming to be true here - nor is there a known method that allows everyone to confirm what you claim to be true here for themselves. To me, this is just a belief that you hold, that has not been examined. Based from your posts, I don't think that you actually know what is "enlightenment". I have done 5-MEO DMT more than a dozen times with complete breakthroughs to know what you are talking about here is not true. When you take N-DMT and see those so called "entities" - this is just ego-generated storytelling, nothing else. It is just the play of the divine mind - the key is to to learn how to recognize this and let go of the need to create a story and make meaning of your experience. It is all just the active and dynamic play of the mind and ego, separating experienc einto self and other, and overlaying a narrative that is satisfying and gratifying to the ego. That doesn't make it any "real" however. And so what? Religions are very heavily corrupted by the EGO, and have made a lot of bold claims throughout the history which turned out to be false. While those traditions can be helpful in some aspects, none of them offer a direct(and effective) path to non-dual liberation. It's not a belief, it's a lack of belief because at the moment there is no way to verify what you are saying is true. In fact, from my perspective, it is you who are holding the belief of "other realms", "souls", "spirits", etc For somebody who has gone through a non-dual awakening through usage of entheogens such as 5-MEO DMT, what you are saying here is not true. Again, I am not discounting the so called "paranormal" events - I am simply rejecting your explanation and your introduction of unnecessary explanatory agents such as "spirits", "souls", "other realms", etc. Those are ultimately figments of human imaginations - but not true in any sense and I reject using those things to explain the nature of reality. A more honest answer would be that you actually don't know.

This doesn't sound like non-duality to me. "Individuated conscious entity" would be the same as individual soul or EGO. For someone who has gone through the process of non-dual awakening, this is a clear illusion to me. I can see why people in the occult would not go all the way to dissolve the ego - because their philosophy alone is a trap (if it's the way that you write here) and is full of egoic projections. I am not rejecting the paranormal experiences that you are describing though - I have experienced some things to have an idea of what is possible. The question is, what is the actual explanation for the things you are describing? (that is free of egoic projections).

I agree with you that if it's properly vaporized, you will feel A LOT with 5mg, it's even possible to have a breakthrough.

You did not make it clear enough. I also did not find it anywhere in your 5-MEO DMT guide or in your thread. You should add a warning.

@ethanb121 If you're on any SSRI or MAOI, you should NOT be using 5-MEO DMT unless if you have been clean for at LEAST 1 month. It is extremely dangerous combination and it could result in physical death. I am surprised that LEO is ignorant of this fact and does not provide this warning to people

@Natasha How would you explain polyamorous relationships then?

-How important is it to realize what is love before entering a romantic relationship? ( total absolute self-acceptance and self-love) -What is the difference between "love" and the intense "in love" feeling that a person experiences towards their partner? -Would a person who is totally conscious of what is love, ever feel heartbroken and experience suffering after a breakup? In other words, does this pain only come from attachment or is this totally normal when you actually love somebody?

It all depends on how you use the psychedelics. Unfortunately majority of people don't know how to get the maximum out of psychedelics or how to even trip properly. Have you tried doing things like self-inquiry while tripping? Have you also done any energetic work while on psychedelics?