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What a beautiful way to stay stuck and limit your perspective.

This question popped in my head a few days ago: is truth discovered, or created? You see, let's say that truth is discovered. But then I can ask again, did I create, or discover this answer? And then I ask it again. And again. And this goes on for infinity. Maybe I say that it is created. But did I create, or discover THIS answer? And then I ask it again. And again. And this goes on for infinity. Maybe it's a choice. But that would mean that it's in fact created. But again, did I create, or discover the truth that it's a choice? I don't know! Or do I? I don't- I can't... FUCK! Do you see what I mean?! And why am I even talking about this? No-one can help me! Dear God almighty, what have I stumbled upon?

@Inliytened1 @Nyseto Thanks to both of you. I'm actually very happy that I came up with this question. It made it very clear that I can't "go further" with thinking & rationalizing. I'm staring at a brick wall and the only way forward is to realize that there is no wall. Now I see the Way.

Life is so great. New horizons forever and ever.

I like this a lot. Makes me thirsty for what is beyond the mind and reasoning.

Do you really think this way or are you trying to prove some point? Are you trying to show off your ability to remain neutral & pick different sides in these problems? If you are, there is no need for that. Everyone you are talking with here can do that. You are not helping anyone.

Exactly. And a not so peaceful example would be the thousands of people who were shot or executed by cutting their heads off with a guillotine when stage orange emerged in the 1700s France. Not pretty. But one could say we owe much of our freedoms today to those murderers.

This is obvious for everyone who actually understands the model. But it's not an excuse to ignore the shortcomings of lower stages. At some point, yes, but we need to use these models to get to that point.

More or less green. And surely there are individuals from other stages in these groups. Green is not some heavenly group of angels and a complete end to violence and other devilry. You just have to realize how much more stupidity and devilry there is in the lower stages.

Hmm. Is Truth discovered or created? What is the difference?

A few days ago I wrote to the board "truth that feels good". There was an instant shift in my perception of reality. There really is no objective truths. I am free to use my mind/beliefs/perspectives the way I wish to. I am free to choose my own truth. I am the master of my reality. I can't fail and there is no judgement. This is love and freedom. @Nahm Thank you so much for everything.

@LfcCharlie4 Yeah Black Mirror is great. It's weird how conscious, or deep some of the shows on Netflix are. DARK is a very good show too. It's about time travel. Mindfuckery at it's finest.

@peanutspathtotruth @LfcCharlie4 @Nahm Have you guys seen Mindhunter on Netflix? It's the best show I've seen so far. It's based on a true story about the emerging of criminal psychology in the FBI in the 70s. The story is about a small group of agents who began interviewing serial killers in order to gain understanding of the psychology behind violent criminals. If you love psychology, good acting, good dialogue, great characters and interesting & a little dark themes, this is a show for you. Can you see the love in a serial killer?

@SirVladimir So you wrote this? Very beautiful. It's hard to describe how these words make me feel. Joy, Truth, Love. Thank you. I will absolutely check out your book some day.

I love this.

So I've thought a lot about emotions. Why certain thoughts/actions etc. feel good and others bad? Why is there emotions in the first place? I've come to a conclusion that perhaps emotions are like a compass, sort of a navigation system. An emotion which you percieve as positive, tells you when the present thought/belief/action is resonating, or in accordance of your true self, of who you want to be. Emotions you percieve as negative, tells you that the thought/belief/action is not resonating/in accordance of your true self, or the greater idea of who you want to be. A feeling percieved as positive speaks of harmony. A feeling percieved as negative speaks of disharmony. Maybe truth is not some statement, concept or a thing you can 'find', but a feeling, or recognized by feeling. Any thoughts/perspectives on this?

I've wanted to cry for a long time but it just doesn't happen. It sucks. Any tips? Psychedelics are not an option right now.

I saw a video of someone saying something like "Have you heard of the meditation where you breathe out all that's negative and breathe in all that's good? Well, this is actually a watered down version of certain way more powerful buddhist meditation. This was done because the original was too powerful for most people." The meditation is called Tonglen. Here's a quote from the Wikipedia article, by Pema Chödrön: "On the in-breath, you breathe in whatever particular area, group of people, country, or even one particular person... maybe it’s not this more global situation, maybe it’s breathing in the physical discomfort and mental anguish of chemotherapy; of all the people who are undergoing chemotherapy. And if you’ve undergone chemotherapy and come out the other side, it’s very real to you. Or maybe it’s the pain of those who have lost loved ones; suddenly, or recently, unexpectedly or over a long period of time, some dying. But the in-breath is... you find some place on the planet in your personal life or something you know about, and you breathe in with the wish that those human beings or those mistreated animals or whoever it is, that they could be free of that suffering, and you breathe in with the longing to remove their suffering. And then you send out – just relax out... send enough space so that peoples’ hearts and minds feel big enough to live with their discomfort, their fear, their anger or their despair, or their physical or mental anguish. But you can also breathe out for those who have no food and drink, you can breathe out food and drink. For those who are homeless, you can breathe out/send them shelter. For those who are suffering in any way, you can send out safety, comfort. So in the in-breath you breathe in with the wish to take away the suffering, and breathe out with the wish to send comfort and happiness to the same people, animals, nations, or whatever it is you decide. Do this for an individual, or do this for large areas, and if you do this with more than one subject in mind, that’s fine… breathing in as fully as you can, radiating out as widely as you can." So basically, you breathe in anothers suffering and misery, and breathe out love, healing, happiness. I've done this a few times now, just for a couple of minutes, and I can say that this is extremely powerful. I absolutely encourage everyone to try this!

Leo, if he had hair.

Keep looking at the snake. Of course there is no beginning. That's what self-creation means. Nobody is talking about a reason or a mechanism. Nothing = Self-Creation = Love No mechanism.

Nope. It's Positive/Good. I was asking this because I had a hunch that you don't understand the reason why people call it Love. Like you said, it is fundamental to understand that the territory is not this or that - it's absolute. And this is precisely why it's Love. Here's the simplest way I can think of to point at why the territory is Love/Positive/Good: This symbol is called Ouroboros. It represents the universe. YOU. It is not - nor is it -/+ (neutral). It's a +. A big fucking +. Infinite +. Why? Because it is ITSELF! It creates itself! See, how could it be anything else than Positive? You/Truth is Love because you are it! You create the Truth. That's why it's Perfect! Infinite +! Love! "Just what it is" = Positive, Good, Love.

@Someone here Let me ask you this: is the territory Positive, Negative or Neutral? Is it Good, Bad or Neutral?

NOOM

Exactly. LOVE!