Nivsch

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  1. @Leo Gura I am against the settlements, but I still can understand why after 15 years of countless quite surgical operations and exhuastion, and after that horror in october that was celebrated by Gazans citizens in the streets, Israel's patience will be over and it will explode on them.
  2. @zazen But they were offered, and by many mediators (Anapolis conference for examples) and almost the whole world was trying to generate a deal for them and they didn't want to hear. About the conditions, would you let the far more violent side a full access to maritime and air ways from the beginning?
  3. @Bandman Maybe because there are people who still want to hear an authentic first person perspective composed from 36 years of actually living in Israel that maybe can show you some raw insights that aren't cherry picked, aren't distorted and aren't polluted by who knows how many hands that touched it before it came to your eyes. Try to listen also to the other side it won't kill you.
  4. @zazen They have got countless offers to have a state that would stop the settlements expansion right away, and they refused.
  5. After more than 10 smart careful operations with 70% surgicality in the most dense area in the world lead eventually to nothing, leave you exhuasted and your western friends and family give you the cold shoulder, and after all of that you lost 1200+ people in horrific ways when Gazan citizens are celebrating on the streets to this! What the hell any sane country would do? The exact same thing and most likely much more. No sane earthly person would not do what Israel is doing right now if it was him. Unless he is an exceptionally special saint.
  6. @Raze The link tree isn't long enough.
  7. In meanwhile, thousands of young guys who many of them aren't any less deep in their thinking or any less loving than us, walking in the mud of Gaza, sleeping badly, while put their life on a risk out of a conscious choice, and even die every day there. Everyone who wants to be fair, should add Israel's willingness to sacrifice itself to his or her considerations. The shamless garbage situation hamas putted Israel in Gaza is over. Now this is an eye to eye fully symmetric war.
  8. @zazen So if we reduce all that down to the root we get that: Israel is not really allowed to deffend itself.
  9. @zazen Israel is not at all the cause to their behaviour nor to their suffering, but a triggering factor. When someone has some kind of a disorder, I cannot be responsible to his suffering, but I do have responsibility to not make his condition worse especially if I am a familiy member of him or a friend or live nearby him, just like the neighborhood relationships between two societies, with their own unique weaknesses, that required mutual sensitivity to one another to not awake everyone's unique demon.
  10. @BlueOak The hate won't go away so fast, but a new and better authority and education system can change a lot. The question is who can do that? The PLO is still not a good option. Creativity is required here, but Netanyahu cannot be trusted on this. Yes some will radicalize, but some won't, and some maybe the opposite because they know who is the real cause. To say that this is for sure only make them more radical is to give them too little credit, and in other words to say they are just puppets on strings that just react to what Israel does and cannot think independently on the situation, especially after their cult leaders are lost control on them and their doctrine turned out to be a failure.
  11. @kenway Yes. Those children will recover from the cult of hamas that brainwashes them to honor death and to not respect life at all, neither their own life nor other people's lives.
  12. In brief they really don't have nothing here. Surrendering is an act IDF is encouraging terrorists who don't want to die to do. You can say I am wrong and that you don't believe me or IDF, but here, ampirically speaking, there is really nothing more than surrendering.
  13. @Karmadhi Nobody shot those men. Please provide a proof for that far reaching claim.
  14. @Karmadhi There is no a single woman in that video. Maybe one or two children out of 100-200 adults.
  15. And from where do you know they aren't terrorists? From the very moment I saw the author wrote "execution" I understood he is a toxicating devil not worth a serious relation ๐Ÿ™‚ But keep linking to absurd claims. The lies industry of hamas is so sick. It is naive to think hamas will have qualms about truth when doesn't have so about life.
  16. Exactly, too instinctively and too automatically I would say, totally from the gut, without realizing that this situation is very tricky and twisted. After countless operations with what I found an average surgicality of ~70% which I think is quite good given hamas's main survival strategy, but repeated frustration and unjustness from the misunderstanding and pressure from western countries on Israel every time again, when hamas get to decieve the world again and again leave Israel exhuasted, and one day kills and abducts 1400 of our people then, the pressure cooker will understandably overflow ๐Ÿซ•
  17. @Vrubel Great point. More popular doesn't mean more right, actually many times (if not mostly?) this is quite the opposite.
  18. @Merkabah Star Al Jazeera wants Gazan children to stay under the cult of hamas forever.
  19. @Lila9 Yes I agree with you. Stage Red propaganda will always be more manipulative and more misleading.
  20. @Lila9 Of course they "need" them, to be their cards for a deal which will help them (hamas) to survive. I am not saying they can't show glimpses of humanity here and there, but this article doesn't indicates nothing like that, unless the reader wants so much to hear otherwise.
  21. @Lila9 What heartwarming news ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
  22. "Palestinians need permission from Israel to enter the country" So to just let them in without security checks? "and often must pass through military checkpoints to move within the West Bank." Ok I understand but thats probably necessary because of the settlements. He could just say the settlements are problematic and must be stopped or something like this and this is a fair claim, but "appartheid state" is an hypocrite statement because it is too loose, generalized and open to interpretations in many directions.
  23. @zazen Palestinians in the west bank are under the responsibility of the PLO as their official civil authority, while in Gaza strip they are under hamas. IDF is found in wide forces within the west bank for security purposes since 2002, what proved to be the only way to stop the suicide bombing happened in busses and restaurants from ones to twice a week. I'm in the middle of the video of Daniel Levy but it sounds he suggests a return to 48' lines? Later he uses definitions and creates some sort of scheme or n not so clear equation from it, to moralize against the Jews moves in 1947-8 but he overlook the fact that they stemmed from a survival challenge they have faced after almost lost in a civil-like war between them and the Arabs reinforced by 6 Arabs countries. By the way the land occupied in 1967 was under Jordan. About Gaza he doesn't suggest any pratical alternative way to eliminate hamas besides moralizing.
  24. "Appartheid state"? How? Why can't 20 seconds of a single Al Jazeera's video pass without be sound like a kindergarden? Come on ๐ŸŽข๐ŸŽก