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@kenway The comparison to nazis is not worth a serious relation. It indicates nothing more than a total ignorance. Like to compare between the sun and chocolate. What is the connection? I don't know. About the video, as I said before it is very far from the truth of Israel society. For the analogy I can also take a video of another and extreme case of, say, murder of women by their husbands in Toronto (happens sometimes all across the world) and say that this is Canada.
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Thanks. Good night.
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@Nabd I appreciate your nuanced view. Only one crazy out of many is fair enough analogy. But I can't agree to the accusation being discussed last week. This is totally ridiculous. I saw most of the six hour talks in hugue. Israel's explanations were very grounded to me succeeded easily to hold a stable healthy wide context to its claims. In the other hand the accusation was based on fragments of claims that can indicate problems, but can never compose the puzzle to make their accusation plausible. If you want we can discuss problems. But the game of "genocide" I won't play. And now I really must go to sleep.
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@kenwayI understand you were hurted from what I said. If I was wrong I am apologize and take my claim about your intention back. Don't take it personally. I feel an enormous hypocricy and dehumanization from the discussion here about Israel many times, and it might be that you just don't see this and that you acted from good intentions. So please just stay with what I wrote about the video (minus the relation to you which I erase now from the discussion and from the message). Have a good night. Here it is night anyway.
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@Happy Lizard The video is light years away from daily Israel. But I don't want to force anybody to think in some way or another or to see beyond his or her heavy filters. I live here 36 years and the degree this is so far from average Israel was the reason I laughed so hard, from the absurdity 🙂 Your Idea is good and I will definitly do it. Thank you for your sincere desire to know and that you are open. I appreciate this.
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I tried to think on a serious answer but I see no point and really couldnt find one. I cant relate to that seriously. If you can't see or admit the problem to yourself then OK. Keep in your way and do not disturb yourself.
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Pretty neutral 😂🤣 Man why can't you do it a bit more sophisticatly and at least add some regular videos of regular Israelis (not just weirdous) and show the problems there? You will appear much more reliable. For your favor I am saying.
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@Raze This video provides interesting points to discuss along with other weaker claims and of course dismissing of any hamas and palestinians responsibility in this tango. However this is light years away from the persecution's original accusation anyway. There is a deep and intersting to me psychological issue with the passion when people want to blame Israel that is still never the same as another war zones discussion where the situation is far worse
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If you care about good results, you should ask for a fair condemnation with a co-operative approach. A fair critisism on Israel can go like this ✏️📋 " 1. We suspect Israel acts not only out of a military necessity, but also cause an extra damage which doesn't help to fight hamas nor to protect its soldiers from hamas's fortifications, but rather costs civilians lives for nothing. 2. We know that the elimination of hamas is very important to the future of the Palestinians children in Gaza who been killed psychologically and maybe irreversibly from hamas education and indoctrination and need an urgent recovery plan, and to the Israelis too. 3. Therefore, we are not asking Israel to give out the war completely, because this is not a legitimate demand, but rather to invest more efforts, even if it is not easy given hamas interest to maximize civil casualties, to be as accurate and surgical in its actions as possible. 4. We are not just speak and preach because this is the easy part. But rather, we will work hard and think hard and invest some genuine effort by ourselve to create mechanisms that will ensure our demands from the IDF, because we really care about Gaza's situation therefore we will show this with our actions. 5. We are willing to talk openly with the Israelis as well as to listen with open mind to their traumas and legitimate concerns, and think together how to get closer and as fast as possible to our common goal. "
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@Merkabah Star This is just so ridiculous. They even didn't agree to say hamas is a terror organization. This is so clear to me what is going on here. Sometimes a good intuition is really enough when you obviously don't and won't have the precise 100.00% scientific proof for many things. I saw 2 hours from the SA speeches (1 hour left to see) and the 3 hours of Israel response. The differences in the level and the quality of the claims are huge. No doubt at all, for me, that those accusation are not any other than an abuse, in a similar way conspiracy theorists use curnel of truths to make a totally engineered and wrong in its essence story. Israel's response was so much more directive, broad in their context that could keep a sensible and healthy structure all along the way, calm even, confident and to the point. For me it is very clear. This is not to say there are no problems need to be addressed as I said before in my comment to the video of ex-IDF soldier @Raze added, but the whole accusation of "genocide" is an entire house of cards. Absolutely ridiculous.
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@Happy Lizard come on. I even don't know how to comment to that. Take your thoughts to where you want. I am not trying to convince anybody.
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🇿🇦 South Africa delegation: "hamas is NOT a terror organization". A month ago South Africa leadership even hosted hamas leaders in their parliament. Now its clear their prosecution submitted to Hugue courte is highly infected to begin with. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2ASM08osuJ/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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The ratio is 3:1 to 3:1.5 (Not 1000:1) No wonder though you use the absurd trendy word. I am even not writing it for you but to prevent a deceiving of hundreds or thousands of readers here.
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@Danioover9000 So you are taking one photo of a defensive imanignary idea to put in our borders in order to replace the defensive fence Israel thought will prevent wars and was wrong. And then you use this picture as a proof of a "genocidal" intent? Are you really expecting a serious answer for that? Isnt it a similar tactic to taking sayings of some soldier boys or a far right wing knesset member and get it out of context to dehumanize Israel as a whole? So now you try to dehumanize us in getting something totally out of its real context rather than react to the point of the claim?
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It is not beyond then, it is before rationality.
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Its been couple of years the I have a beliefe that it is, maybe, enough to just feel the emotions fully and to enough time in order to gradually understand yourself better through communication with your subconscious directly, and that intelectualization about the emotiom/thought gets in the way of it, and actually breaks that connection and prevent you from really tapping into your subconscious and your so to speak higher self. But I don't know, because if it was so simple, then the magic of this therapy process would diminish and in some sense I don't want it to be so simplistic, and I really think that some intelectualization and a complex inner communication is helpful or maybe necessary. And this is interesting for me to know what do you think? And after all, there is no a clear line between to just flow with an emotion/thought and to also think about it very consciously (to intelectualize) and we are always found anywhere in the scale.
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The head of the courte declared on a coffee brake.
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@Squeekytoy Agree. I am now in a point I am no longer believe the content but rather believe it has a subtext. In other words the story isn't right but it has a take home message.
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@zazen Genocides are something else. Not relevant to Israel. Writing it 1000 times won't make it true 🙂
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I don't think this is true. If they were beyond this they would not chose to do genocide. Maybe they were a mix of pre-rational and rational.
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The Christian citizens of South Africa say something very different 🇮🇱🇿🇦 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C19dpl-tiF3/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== "South Africa stands with Israel even though they leaders have failed them" the post title. So, maybe, this is mostly the leaders there who blame Israel. It reminds me of Iran where there are many Iranian who are supportive on Israel and most of them hates their regime.
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@Yimpa Do you mean physically? Israel spent ~1.5 billion dollars on a smart fence out of an assumption this will prevent wars, but was wrong.