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@Karmadhi I actually hate our current government but I am allergic to unjustness in the name of "weak vs strong" illusionary scheme.
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Or you are stuck in a narrative.
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Indeed sad mistake. This organization has helped Israelis too after oct 7th.
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https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjtbwpt1c
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@Karmadhi Muslims according to this video. I understand where your passion is.
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Palestinians living within Israel (2 Millions Arabs) prefer Israeli Jewish leadeship according to this street poll: I am only intented to upload videos which I see as insightful and challenge the simplistic pro palestinian narrative I see as very problematic. This is not to hurt any side (Jews/Arabs) because we have many great Arabs here in key positions in our society and, needless to say, no one is inherently better than the other.
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Nivsch replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Since this is an history thread I will attach this to here, to broaden the thread's pespective in order to show a bigger context. https://www.ajc.org/news/israels-enduring-quest-for-peace -
Why it is worth considering more seriously, that hamas is a greater obstacle to peace (than Israel)? He has good refreshing points inside.
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This is not what Israel do.
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Totally dis-agree. Sorry to dissapoint. IDF still act like a western military in the micro level with his % of flaws. On the macro it is usually even more careful (you can argue about this war though). Proportions is important.
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@Karmadhi hamas can easily disguise itself to healthcares, as it is infinately manipulative and must be to survive against an organized military. In the other hand, 30 years of terror makes the Israelis to see the other sides civilians as less important than them, because they feel those civilians support the terror atrocities hamas does. But this does not exempt Israel from responsibility to do maximum efforts to be surgical, what it honestly didn't.
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Ok I cannot deffend this. This is barbaric. Unfortunately such soldiers exist too ):
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@Karmadhi Can you send me a link to the video of the 14 yo kid?
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@Karmadhi Sorry this isn't aligned at all with what I know about IDF and its values. Not because I am biased but because I was also in the army and hear soldiers and Israelis for decades. Al jazeera claims are unreliable. This is 99.99% hamas members who been shot in Sheifa and I hardly believe it was in an execution way. Did you see similar videos from other sources? If so please send here.
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Good luck with this 🙂🪄🔮
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From al jazeera??
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Who the hell tell you these are civilians and not hamas?
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@Karmadhi IDF fights hamas people in Al Sheifa hospital. Do you believe that sheifa hospital is populated by only civilians? I mean now I understand what it was impossible to convince anybody also in Europe in 1940's. People don't learn anything. If you have evidence for something else, share them without siting this stage red propaganda source funded in million by Iran and wrote on his flag to destroy Israel by any mean.
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AI cannot enter the right brain's expertise nor will ever can. Facing and learning from raw emotions is very important and unreplacable.
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That is why it is dangerous to think AI will be objective. But anyway - a fascinating conversation (started to read).
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Of course there is hamas in west bank. This is the whole point of why Israel arrests people there. That is why IDF is securely co-operates with the Palestinian Authority, out of a mutual interest of both sides to prevent hamas from growing there to the monsterous dimension it was in the early 2000's with the suicide bombing he did in Israel every couple of days.
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I think this is a great thing as a tool to incorporate, but I have mixed emotions about this because the thought it will maybe make the person to not do humane conversations any more (like you wrote maybe sarcastically but whatever) make me somehow stressed to hear. I am a bit scared it will weaken our sense of humane-ness. But in a healthy balanced way, of course can help to learn things.
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@royce It will be better if you will explain the "abusing palestinians in west bank" to make me understand what you mean. Only If you want.
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@royce I don't see any flaw in moving your embassy to your ally's capital city, nor with giving palestinians east Jerusalem in the other hand. What is the problem with Golan Heights? Do you think Israel need to give them back? The state which is as big as a head of a bobby pin in an ocean of Arab land. Makes sense.
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@Karmadhi Also see Bennett explanation to his position, and I choose to believe this is his thoughts: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.middleeastmonitor.com/20211011-bennett-says-a-palestinian-state-would-mean-a-terror-state/amp/ The claims against a Palestinian state are not out of evilness, but out of fear from more terror, just like we have seen from Gaza after we left it.