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US and Israel are together for the same reasons Gaza and Iran are - deep roots of common value systems. There is no such a thing that Israel "drags" US or the opposite, this is not the case at all.

" Hamza Hawidi, a resident of Gaza City who defines himself as a Palestinian peace activist, sharply criticizes the pro-Palestinian demonstrations on campuses across the United States and Europe: "The students are outside in tents because of hatred of Jews and hatred of Israel. As a Gazan and as a Palestinian, I want the demonstrators and the organizers of the demonstrations to know that their hate speech hurts us. If the demonstrations were about achieving sustainable peace and justice - the Jews or the Israelis could be our partners. We in Gaza do not accept hate speech or Calls for terror, and all these foolish dreams of eliminating Israel are disgusting - and will never be achieved. We both, Palestinians and Israelis, are here to stay. The way many gather to express their support for the Palestinians does more to hurt. Do you know what will help the Palestinians in Gaza? Condemn the atrocities of Hamas. Instead the demonstrators routinely call for 'making the intifada global'. They do not understand that the intifadas were also disastrous for the Palestinians, just as October 7 was devastating for the residents of Gaza. Some of the protesting groups blocked Palestinian peace activists like me, and I dare you. They should invite us to join these demonstrations and let us guide them in the right direction, call for the release of the abductees who have been held captive by Hamas for more than 200 days. If the protesters cared about us they would demand that Hamas surrender. This is the only way to reach a ceasefire. The hate speech has reached frightening levels. I saw people shouting at Jewish students to 'go back to Poland'. It's not just the anti-Semitism that makes me despair, it's the hypocrisy. Where were they when Hamas took over Gaza and massacred us? Or when he held us captive for more than 17 years? They don't talk about the fact that Hamas led the Gazans into conflict, Hamas murdered young people in order to steal aid and resell it, and that its failed missiles claimed the lives of hundreds" https://bit.ly/3UfsDKF Photo: REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes " You can translate the original article from here: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/TAPbXJA7sbzkdi3P/?mibextid=oFDknk

Yes maybe it was a mistake. I will remember it for next times.

You have earned the suspicion we feel for some of you by the incessant flooding of demonization and slogans repeating the same mantras for months with very little, if any, tangible explanations or willingness to engage with substantive discussion. In the message above I really invited you to raise points through writing and didn't say anything personal, but sorry if you get hurted because this wasn't meant. Whatever you want to do from here is up to you.

@Danioover9000 Nobody posioned anything nor said anything about you personally so don't gaslight.

@Danioover9000 I bring tangible points to here, you bring Al jazeera. When you want to have a rational discussion you are welcome 🙂

@zazen The "Ethnic cleansing" narrative is a myth, for many reasons: 1. This video: 2. The 90s - decade of four different signed agreements between Israelis and Palestinians. 3. Genuine and long lasting trials of Ehud Barak (2000), Ariel Sharon (2002-2005), Ehud Olmert (2006-2008) and Tzipi Livni (2013-14) to achieve a two state solution. 4. Upper and under ground fences surrounding Gaza costed ~ 10 Billion dollars, the prove Israel didn't want to to mess with Gaza but to put it behind. 5. Shrinking of compulsory service in Israeli army from 3 years to ~2.6 years and the rise of "tiny but smart army" paradigm based mainly on technology (before oct 7th). https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/how-start-nation-brand-failed-israel/676308/ When you have time, I wrote you a comment above.

Can you aknowledge, despite the over generalization and demonization this survival mode causes in the mind of Israelis, the partial importance and necessity of this mode and from where it comes and that it has also valid reasons for? That it isn't out of evillness but out of fear?

+1 ❤️ Greatly put.

The medicalization trend of mental experiences is by itself a problematic perspective needs to be questionable just as everything else.

Of helping a person in believing in himself and building an infrastructure of self validation and independent thinking.

For me an independent thinking was key to reduce my anxiety and ocd. Conventional methods didn't help me at all, and I dare to say any linear method cannot tackle any problem on its root, though legitimate as an additional tool to try, and as a baseline to start with.

Because of tons of factors that worsen his situation much more than me or your situation.

No, but can be an another layer of help in an holistic approach.

We all have sometimes symptoms that remind a mild version of some mental condition, when the differences between us and the people we consider to have bpd/ocd/schizo etc are on degree and not on kind. Therefore when we seperare ourselves from such people and saying we can't touch them, we are in a sense betray the goal for which we are here in the first place that is to help ourselves (and others) conquer their most profound emotional challenges what spirituality is all about.

Ok this anyway isn't supposed to replace therapy, but to just throw him or her away is not smart too. Spirituality and mental health heading the same direction fundamentally, and the seperation between the ones who "don't have" mental conditions to the ones who have them is a mistake, and also wrong.

When in emergency or acute phase yes. In the long term you have to be as holistic as you can. When I reacted to you above I didn't talk about emergency but on chronic phase managment.

Ok so throw them to the ocean to be dependent only on psychiatry without broadening their perspective. Very responsible.

Great but most bpd are people who can and also need to get help from an advanced conscious community when regulated in special sub forums and done responsibly.

😂 The most toxic and cult-ish meme I have ever seen. @Vrubel If Andrew Tate was talking about Israel this is how it would sound. Exactly the toxicity you mention all the time Israelis need to face. Lucky I am in Tel Aviv port and have clean air to breath.

@Danioover9000 No you just gaslight right now and do manipulations and say things I didn't say.

@Danioover9000 Yes my views are like Vrubel but I didn't say to Leo anything like the things that you said because every one of us have our emotions and angle from where we see this issue so there is no need to mention this.

I didn't claim that. You got confused.

I didn't say that. Don't know what you talking about.

You are free to think whatever you want. It is hard to make a discussion without tangible points. Whatever you choose.