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@BlueOak Thanks for the investment. All those are from your direct experience and your independent conclusions? I can relate to part of them, but I am not into solipsism and don't believe anything about turquoise I have no intuition to by myself. Why that a specific arrangement of neurotransmitters induced by some kind of psychedelic will show the most fundamental reality? I can understand that this is part of reality and a perspective. But who is to say that a psychedelic state, or some organization of neurotransmitters is more true than an another neurotransmitters combination? I think this is an emotional and biased decision affected by what the person want to be true. Anyway the Love thing I like and think there is a lot to it.

Can you explain what did you mean by that? With an example even if you can

Nice point

Anything you will hear about turquoise is not actually what turquoise is, but only some trials to translate to words implicit experiences when what YOU get from the word is mostly a distorted picture. Only you will know in real time how turquoise is supposed to feel and it might be different than things that you hear. Think for yourself what does it mean to grow above yellow. Don't rely on answers from outside. It will happen in your unique way through your unique challenges and not in the way it is written in spiritual books.

+1 ❤

@MarioGabrielJ With the necessary modesty I will say I think what is going on is that God means to good, but won't give you the answers to life on a silver platter.

You really don't need anything except your biggest problems. They are your super highway to growth if you only relate to them like this. No need to engage with any turquoise person, nor to learn about turquoise strategies or spiritual slogans. It will only be a bypass and won't grow you nearly as effectively as the key tool above.

@BlueOak You don't believe you can be Turquoise in this life?

They themselves also use this word Zionism when they describe themselves in the videos you watch?

Ok fair I understand. In school, Zionism has been defined to us as the aspiration of the Jewish people to their own land, and thats it. Seems like the exact definition of this word is subjectively given depend on the piece of the cake (= reality) one wants to focus on. For example the center-left camp will define the exact same word by their own values of equality, acceptance etc. The problem is that subconsciously the word implies a generalized meaning what can be weaponized to unfair propaganda purposes by extreme leftists abroad for example. This is what a bit difficult here for me with this word I learned about from its more pure meaning and intention. Nevertheless, your definiton although different then mine, is fair in my opinion in the way it focuses on the problem itself and explains itself nuancly.

I think God wanted us to make effort to solve the math exercise for ourselves and not to just tell us the answer because then there might be no point to life. When someone chooses to rape, he clearly hasn't succeded to solve the problem and to understand who he is. It is not that god wanted that to happen or something but it is just unevitable that it will happen sometimes.

But he accepts everyone's path as equally valid and significant, this is only you who think that some person is in a better position than the other, but this is because we have assumption about what it means to live a good vs bad life. But who told you that to live in the netherlands with super comfortable conditions is necessarily good? Who told you that to live in India in worse conditions and physical challenges means a disadvantage?

How do you define the word "Zionism"? What is Zionism for you? If you can break it down.

The search for magic pills and shortcut solutions can be dangerous. You want it then great but start with something small.

@Lila9 Yes I agree with you. Orange many times thinks that only cold logic is the correct way, when he overlooks information found in the gut-subconscious brain axis and thinks that we decide only based on what we see clearly. Green like to put on himself a spiritual mask with all the lofty words and does spiritual bypasses usually.

When a moment in your far past jumps in your memory, your brain restores it fully and accurately with all of your senses and emotions you had back then (what is sometimes capable to do), and realize that this moment from the past was just as significant as the most significant moments you have in present times. The logical brain cannot do this because it will always filter it in a biased way like in the present moments you are always much better because you grew up so much, but the emotional-sensory (unbiased, accurate) memory from 16 years ago can surprisingly appear and shuffle all the cards, when makes you doubt the 'ever-progress' thinking/state of consciousness you were into until now. At this moment 16 years ago you were not any less "connected" and fulfilled than you are today. Life is hence waves! And not a progress trend. Probably this is not a total U turn but only partial, and the previous ideology didn't really fully collapse but it did to some degree. By the way I am not saying I am turquoise (because I am not at all) and actually not saying anything about me but only about this specific thought/insight I feel I have right now. Maybe I am just in a mild "high" and when I wake up in the morning I will regret this message, or maybe I won't? I will update you in 8 hours.

I have tried to act upon the principle that we feed our subconsious with our own ideas and therefore create it, and tried to change that. While there is a truth in that for sure, it helped only to some extent. You can try and get your own conclusions.

You are limited anyway. You can't choose, at least not directly, how to feel. You can't decide things freely and manipulate your subconscious how you want. Actually it is mainly the opposite. You have passions, fears, emotional challenges you didn't choose and have to go through them and develop according to their guidance. Anything else is a bypass.

@Davino No problem. When you have time it will be great. I think SD better be a self inspirational tool only to show horizon and hope for people this is its most profound value. I cannot pretend to know in what exact stages other people are and to how degree cause its too complex. The mind tends to want to put other people lower than us, but at least my experience tells me this is just too difficult to know what really happens inside people minds, unless you do a one on one conversations with them and even then, you can maybe have a clue only on their center of gravity but surely not beyond. Especially when stages aren't determined by content at all but by thinking structures that every one of those can be disguised to inifinte contents and issues.

Long term you will perhaps want a meditation exercise that will face you with contrudictions in your thinking, including about the mediation itself with unsolvable loops that will cause you a feeling of friction all the time. The "Do Nothing" meditation in Leo's video is a really good one.

@Lila9 I think I know better now. Yellow is navigating as gently as possible in the complexity with modesty and with the willing to adjust himself and update his steps all the time. Honestly I feel I have embodied a lot from this way of living in my healing-development journey. Turquoise though starts to rebel against this type of thinking (of course not abandon it but add a new layer) when he doesn't like the thinking of journey/progress but rather find the unlimited potential every single situation holds and add a new dimension of thinking in the vertical direction. Similar to the way green rebels against the orange rules and say that we are already succesful as long as we give love and acceptance to each other, no matter our social status or how 'successful' we are and in that way breaks free from the tunnels orange thinks through.

Sometimes yes, but sometimes its not fakery but their genuine behaviour they see as very authentic for them and necessary. Many times what we see as fakery in others and triggers us is actually sides we lack in ourselves and want subconsciously to integrate, even if in a very different or maybe a healthier way. So the answer is complex and depends.

Both camps has devolved in the last 10-15 years into less healthy versions of left and right among the edges.

Although not a book but Dr zwig instagram page which is Yellow and Turquoise.