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Tel Aviv is exploding for the release of the hostages and against Netanyahu's policy.

Of course even if you follow your authentic feeling and sense of purpose, you have the responsibility to do it in the healthiest way possible, what I admit Jews not always did. But to just dismiss Jews's authentic compass to return to their land is not a honest approach. Nothing here says this is not Palestinians authentic true land too. Both are true, and this is why the two state solution (with enormous security precautions) is the right one. I can return back what you just say to you in the sense of the strong bias/negative automatic feeling about everything Israel does.

The problem is complex but one of its components is the lack of inner meaning and inner rewarding source. It is better not to impose how you see sprituality on him but rather to lead him to follow his own path according to his intuition. Working on finding his leading core values can be beneficial, together with encouraging him to confront his negative emotions directly in a constructive way and with a learning mindset. Will be a long process for sure.

I personally think that every stage has an agenda, just more elevated the more you rise. For example when I just learned about spiral dynamics I thought yellow is very unideologic and neutral. Nothing is further from the truth than this. Yellow is not any less ideological but his ideology is mainly the Health of the system, be it a society, a corporation, a relationship or your own mind of course, as well as other people's health of mind. This kind of ideology provides a much deeper form of justice than what green provides.

Aside to key people from Israeli society, I will start to add official (translated to english) twitts of top Israeli mainstream channels that get the highest rating above all with a big gap: Channel "Kan" 11 ,Channel 12 and Channel 13 . There is also channel 14 which is the rigid very ideology driven Right wing one but 1. Has far less rating and popularity, and 2. talkings from there are anyway overemphasized here so there is no point to add more of the same but rather to show the side which rarely seen in the foreign media but seen the most in our media and represents better how things are seen from the Israeli eyes.

The Palestinians have 50% of the responsibility they are seen as a constant threat and as an enemy in the eyes of many Israelis and Right wing governments.

West bank is originally a Jordanian land. *Israel's Right wing.

So too rape, torture, burning people alive and gas chambers are also due to injustice by this logic? Those are marketing strategy for stage Red's life meaning and imperialistic passion that just changes its form all the time, when the current excuse is Israel. Not injustice but stage Red sense of meaning in life. Good night. Must go to sleep.

I think any nation or individual have to follow their authentic feelings and intuition that give them true meaning. Jews in a land that would be chosen for them randomally in Europe would feel empty, unauthentic and unconnected and humilliated to a significant extent. Authentic actions have a significant importance to one's mental health be it a nation or an individual.

What do you exactly mean by that?

Yes this is my opinion but it represents an entire nation's authentic feelings, urges and identity that is not less legitimate than the Paleatinian's one. They are both legitimate.

Additionally, why that the muslim world will care so much about the Palestinians if they barely care about a slightly different muslim group than them as we can see in their non stop internal wars between soonis and shias for example? The answer is, this isn't because some oppression, it is only because ISRAEL does this oppression! The core reason is Israel. Not an oppression itself that happening. Their ego start to care only when Israel does it. What proves the real core reason is the conflicting worldview and not the existance of an oppression by itself. Because oppressions happens all over the middle east in endless and often far worse forms and terrorists are silence to that.

I am not saying it is the right or the only right one. I am just saying I think a nation who lived in a given area for a millenia in the past has the right to return to this area especially after the worst possible lesson they have learnt at the end of the era during which they have lived distributed abroad.

The fact that Israel existance (less the occupation of 1967 to my opinion) fuels the terror motivation does not mean Israel is doing something wrong or bad, but just that the Israeli worldview is conflicted with the muslim fundamentalists one. While it is true that Israel does wrong things for sure, but this isn't the real main source of the terror motivation.

@Leo Gura ISIS mass murdering in mosoul, ISIS desire to go back to the 7th century, their attacks on Europe, 11.9 attack, terrorism in Iraq, ISIS terrorism in Sinai, the arab spring in Egypt, Assad mass murdering in Syria, Iran regime ideology, Iran terrorism in Yemen are all in order to free the palestinian land? I dont understand this logic..

Yes of course. The whole barbarism, women rights violation, war between Shia and Soonis, are all because the Jews wanted the land they have a millenia-long history and connection to. You have no respect for people's connection to their home, even if it is not only theirs. You wouldn't agree other people to tell you where your home has to be.

If it was out of thin air I would agree. But this organization is responsible for the entire Israeli North disfunction for almost a year. Imagine the northest 15 states of the US unlivable for a year without any solution in sight.

Bouncing my message up because of the new page. Costed me efforts after all (:

To that level? Just because of a debatebly darkish attack some seniors decided on? What the society and people that been killed has to do with those decisions? (I am not saying you necessarily think that way but I emphasize this to show my point)

I can agree to some of that. I think the bippers and pagers attack can be fruitfull IF will be utilized now to critically damage Hezbollah capabilities in further attacks when they are in chaos. But just this attack by its own - not necessarily smart. There are claims say that Israel wanted to to this attack in another time (out of a more strategical thinking i assume) but been exposed so had to use it now. Anyway I have no big expectation from this mentally disabled government and maybe there are smarter ways to deal with Hezbollah. The west is indeed evil in many areas like part of western medicine and the attitude towards long term health and really many things. It is still mostly orange after all. I am not sure though the last attack is the best example for that because it has a role in a more complex context of survival concerns we might not know it fully. Days will reveal us the answers.

There is something to it. Right. In the other hand who can promise us a technological protection again mass invasion? If there is something oct7 taught us is that technology alone is unreliable. Hezbollah unlike Israeli seniors has no problem to kill thousands of innocent civilians in the other side intentionally for its own sake, unless it is significantly dettered and knows there are prices to its actions. Hezbollah forces are way more experienced, professional and numerous than hamas. All the technology in the world US can provide us might not be enough. You cannot take more chances after what happened.

The attitude of just let be like them and make them drag us to their own level is a stupid attitude. So this claims are pointless. We want to be way moral than them always.

Ok but any other tactic to chase Hezbollah would automatically be MUCH LESS surgical (you know, the classic way from the air etc) then isn't there something unjust to immediately blame Israel on the current one? And by the way the amount of explosive matter is pretty tiny and the proof is that most or a very big % of Hezbollah memeber the devices were in their hands were wounded and not killed. So the risk to the surroindings is the tiniest possible in relation to any other option. Anyway if we want objective comparison then lets see how much civilian casualities will be here.

How is it indiscriminate? Those explosions are all in the jeans pockets of Hezbollah members only.