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Another good one 🤔

Most Israelis aren't really knowledged in the details of the situation in west bank and even Gaza (including me until this war). A new education for both sides about the opposite side is required.

Yes basically both sides are trapped in a catch 22 for decades when each side do things that fuel fear, hate and demonization in the other. A vicous loop.

@Raze I Don't know enough about this. But even if I knew, and even if I had a good explanation, this wouldn't help, because the west will always be the only bad guy at the end of the day 😉 Good night.

How do you see holistic vs systemic in your eyes with short examples?

@Lila9 The mystery part is interesting, like he has more capability to see connections that are beyond logical ones. About the meditation part see I feel this is a more specific way of thinking than what I have thought in the past when I saw it as the universal spiritual ultimate way. About the seperation between laboratory position and embodiment its interesting. I have heard it in the past but I am not sure yellow does not see himself as already involved too. I have hard time to connect to that. Yes he is MORE observer but this is only relative. Need to think about that more. By the way nice to see you!

Clarification: 1. Not the ultimate definition but just one facet of the stage. Again, my opinion. 2. To realize something on the back of previous thing is not the same as just to know a phenomena out of any context. I felt there was a different process here but it was inner so very hard to explain. 3. I Respect every view here and I think they are all also right. 4. This was so special so I keep with my opinion anyway.

You are good at being a friend.

Yes after I wrote the message I understood 😅 To like really think what he perhaps thinks inside. I'll watch.

Ok I will read about him in depth thanks

Sounds like they are saying: Turquoise is Yellow but plus a more collective thinking about the whole world, more co-operation, more right brain and place for emotions, and thats it basically. But this is so abstract and vague, and I am not a corporation manager and won't be, so I am looking for individual signs of the stage. This is something I though about in the past but yesterday it was much stronger but again this is my opinion and for sure one piece of the stage and far from being the whole picture (assuming my opinion is true).

@Raze Ok I read it. This is an extreme view and I won't be surprised if Smotrich or Ben Gvir are holding it. Of course not my view. But again, after 3000 terrorists will come to your village and your home you will not be in a position to think rationally. You will only be traumatized and generalizing. This is NATURAL. Especially only one month after the event. And then when you have an extreme government like we have now, some of that will glitch into actions in subtle ways. What again, isn't justified of course and this is a bad and wrong way.

Do you believe me I have listened and read tens of hours of SD in the last 5 years and still didn't understand what the hell is turquoise and in what it is really different from yellow? Listening to this section now.

@Raze The only thing I can think about is to maybe pressure hamas about the deal that was in November and that tried to do in January (the times of those articles) but even if this is the case, this is problematic so I have no interest to deffend it or to give a clear cut answer because I don't have. If this was very temporary when in the other side were the hostages on the stake the answer is complex. But there is an option this wasn't because of the hostages at all and our governemt just decided to do so out of the thin air. I don't know what is true.

@Leo Gura ok started to read about him. What in him you see as the smoking gun proof he is turquoise?

Good for her. Was heartwarming to see. Still slay it.

Yes, the government has been elected by roughly half of the population but even its center of gravity didn't want a war before oct7th.

You confuse the deep right wing with the moderate and security forces sector of society agenda that tend and proved to be very different. Do some research.

Again they attack the Galil too regulary for decades. They resist Israel. Simple.

Even the definition of Arab (as well as Jew to Israelis) will be seen differently to different groups so the "Arab" a Druze see is probably not the Arab an Israeli Arab who isn't Druze see.

And in the other hand Hezbollah kidnapped 3 Israeli soldiers in 2000 just after peace negotiations in Camp David. And what about when hamas started a terrible series of suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv just after Oslo Agreement and BECAUSE of it! To fail it.

I have to admit this a bit hurted. Nothing personal of course about @Bobby_2021 he seems to me as a good person, but the twisting of the fault always back to the attacked one is something which is rooted in a paradigm according to which the west is always the abuser and every action of the Arab world is a legitimate response. This highly problematic paradigm overlook the cruelty those Arab regimes and terror groups tend to act upon in the exact same way to their own people too on a daily basis.

@Bobby_2021 1. The Galil (hasnt occupid in any war) and the Golan are under attack from Hezbollah in the exact same way. 2. The kibbutzes near Gaza hasn't occupied. 3. Hezbollah is in Lebanon and the occupied area is from Syria. 4. Asad killed hunderd of thousands of his citizens so he has no problem to kill anyone who treaten him, similar to hamas who act cruely to his own people just as to Israelis. 5. Five Arab countries has attacked Israel in 1948 so, in their eyes, the existance of Israel is an occupation by itself.