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@zazen Yeah exactly (: Even sharper than I put it

Hey (: How are you? I think the only chance something will change here is with the opposition parties. This will take time and won't be easy anyway. A lot of potential backlashes, a lot of fear of sharp statements after Oct7. Super-sensitive issue here. The differences between them and the coalition are real and significant, but I don't want to feel like trying to point this or that to people. This is anyway not helpful, and I feel I have squeezed this 🍋 I just can recommend to do a research about these opposition parties leaders, and ask whatever you want. Eisenkot Yair Lapid Yair Golan Bennett. He is anti two-states but part of the anti-netanyahu sector today leading the party "together" with Lapid who is in favor of this solution. Gantz Liberman Their parties are displayed in detail on "List of members of the twenty-fifth Knesset" on the English Wikipedia. I hope I haven't forgot someone.

Netanyahu's government, his coalition's parties and plenty of their supporters indeed prefer hamas' rule in Gaza instead of the PLO.

@Alexop So a Left coalition. You will be the responsible adult to restrain the wokies 😝

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@Alexop If you win as the biggest party, is there a chance the Greens and the Oranges will agree to make a coalition with you? Then you won't get too stuck (as if you were with the oranges alone) and also won't cause backlash from the conservative side.

@Alexop What are the key differences between the woke V and the Green MP?

@Alexop Oh Good luck Can you show a poll of the different parties and their relative power? 😔

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I think it can be a defense mechanism, but also can be a healthy development into Blue or Green in a form of "religous" lifestyle, but there are many other forms to do that transition like volunteer at a non-profit organization, start doing Yoga or Meditation, start Veganism etc

No! They are all red Zi0nists 😈🌶 (;

Maybe there is intelligence in the disorder too.

@Raze In Iraq the ratio was also around couple of civilians for each combatant, similar to Gaza.

@Raze So You just dismiss out of hand any analyst who shows what is inconvenient to you. As far as I understand, estimates range widely, and I've seen analyses placing the ratio around 3:1 to 4:1. This doesn't mean I support Bibi's government actions, but some minimal decency is needed.

@Raze The data is highly divergent between articles and analysts. Its pretty clear the "genocide" trend isn't based on an honest comparison of Western countries conflicts against guerrilla organizations.

I understand that's how you see it.

Keep going, you are only strengthening my point 🙂 You maybe haven't heard much about the wars against terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan, or about the civilian to terrorist casualty ratio in those wars. But what is more satisfying than jumping on the latest trend? The automatic anti Israeli bias some people have makes it impossible to reasonate with them.

@Lyubov Jews were persecuted for centuries until the situation reached a breaking point and had to come to an end. That process created new problems and injustices for the Palestinians and those also need to be resolved. Both sides deserve a solution that will bring justice to both.

Exactly my point.

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In this thread you can get a sense of what the discussion in Israel looks like during the war. I will add posts representing a variety of views from across the political spectrum. You are welcome to ask any questions you may have. All posts are translated from Hebrew.

The irony is that the same mindset many people accuse Israel of holding towards strangers is the one they themselves hold towards Israelis when they generalize like that. At the level of mindset and psychology they are operating from the same place.

During the last 6 years he became less rational over time and his actions became more driven by political survival because of his trial. That made him please every sector in his coalition to keep his government alive for as long as possible.

People tend to hold more negative than positive views about the stranger and unfamiliar. This is universal.

@Karmadhi Well ok you have a very idealized model of what a society should be. Maybe it says something about your values. I just think it is less realistic for Western societies these days. If you want to measure which society is more developed you have to put them under similar kind of threats. This is difficult to do. You also have to consider the proportions of people holding different views within each society, when some of the views you mentioned are more rare than the others.