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Orange use only researches and cold logical details to tell him what food is healthy ?‍♂️ Green knows that our intuition and senses are MUCH better indicators to know whats healthy because fruits and vegetables were adapted to us biologically during evolution of millions of years, and no scientist will EVER be smarter than this. Yellow will use both the wisdom of nature and science to know more accurately how to manage his nutrition cleverly to not have defficiencies. for example science shows us that iodine is diluted from the ground becuase of the excessive industrial use, and therefore its important to take this mineral from organic seaweed or to buy the food from natural and very specific farms.

@bejapuskas but if it wasn't useful then the model wasnt useful... but we know the model IS useful. Dont you want to know where are you in the map? And from this to know what your challenges are?

@Ferdi Le thats great. So you probably already have 10-20% Of yellow (?) How can we know how much (approximately) we have from a color we have just did the first steps in it? I feel very similar to what you said. Especially in veganism.

Red: I will eat YOU ?

@d0ornokey Yellow - vegan/vegetarian rate will be like green or above in my opinion. Turquoise - even higher rate.

@kieranperez hope it will be much easier after several days and I wish you to adapt rapidly ?

@ivory thanks ?

I have a conversation with friend and he says that the fact that "every stage add something new and iclude the good sides of the prior stages" - he thinks its otopic. Also he says "and what if the green stage is exaggarating and cancel stage blue too much? That it overlook (or throwing out) some things of the blue stage that are good things?" "The method is problematic because it shows only one way the world can progress" "Its unrealistic because in the real world it hard to seperate "good" and "bad" things" I tried to explain him its not mathematics and every person has some colors in different degrees... and that some person may learn a lesson from orange and after a month another lesson that he didnt learnd well" And after that he said " its sounds better but i still dont like the seperation to colors". I really dont know what he wants. Can you help how to explain it to him? Do you have some ideas?

@Shadowraix ?

@Shadowraix thank you ill tell him that . I didnt understand the last sentence "See the perspective so you can see the point before one looks down on it. " what did you mean?

@Truth Addict yes it seems he has biased opinion about that without really know it and its frastrating me a bit ? He has read my summary of the model until orange and didnt countinue to read during the last month. I told him the model is only simplification of reality. He like very much knowledge (and history and statistics about societies) so its so wierd the model doesnt appeal to him. The model can help him understand much better the reality. Thank you and i will tell him what you said

Wow i feel that two. In last 5 years i was in constant stress to be a good singer and make everyone notice me and see me. But lately i just switched this and the goal bacame much more clear to me - what makes me happy is not the recognition from other, but the SHARING of my abilities and also help other people to go up. I feel like i'm 'melting' myself into connection with others and all my anxiety disorder has reduced significantly. It is realy about changing the wiring of your attention in the situations and less change the situations itself. So you are not alone and i think the desire to create will come back to you, but in more soft and less neurotic way

It makes sense what you say and i'm partially agree. There is ~55% of the population in israel who are blue-orange (in average) and this is still much above the average of middle east (red-blue). But, there is also ~45% of israel citizens who are orange-green and we are NOT in the government since 2009. I think this half is progressing well and not really different from western europe. I believe this half is connected emotionally to the western world and hence will keep going up. About the other half..... this is chalenging and i agree with you. USA have special relationship with Israel. I strongly believe its not all interesting but also values based. Russia and Iran are co-operate in some degree but Iran regime is the no1 sponser of terrorism and it supported by 20-30% of Iran population. Most of Iran citizens are moderate and want to connect the western world but their regime is arresting them even for hearing pop music. Very dark regime they have. Its interesting what you said about trump ill think about what you said. Trump is indeed primitive and cold thinking but in the other hand he really simphatize israel and prefer israel in almost every topic. The former USA un embassador Nicki Heily is republican but i think she is relatively developed person (blue-orange-green) she fought against all the UN hypocrisity about israel (the only democracy in ocean of violent ideologies). She was a lighthouse of sanity in her work as an embassador in the un. Thank you ♥️ P.S The previous embassador (in obamas era i dont remeber her name) was leftist green but she have joined the un hyporisy and this is one of stage green fails in my opinion. I really dont think every green person will have to pass this naive sub-stage in order to become yellow. I think you can be realistic green and support justice and than in the future become yellow.

And there is an Instagram user which simulates a jewish girl called Eva during the WW2 who updates every hour how she and her family doing. And so far her last update was that she has taken by the nazis to the ghetto. In the morning she will send new updates from the ghetto. It seems so realistic. After watching it, i felt very proude that today we are strong. We have strong army and everyone know that the jews that were so unprotectable during the holocause, are now one of the strongest states in the world. We have smart airplanes and enourmesly smart missles and submarines. It makes me very proud and excited every year this day. Many people takes for granted their privillege to leave in the (relatively) free western world of today, that they can read the last paragraph and think its "primitive" to get excited from "strong state" or "army" and other patriotic words. Just to remind those people: the only reason you live in a free democracy is because the fact that USA is the police officer of the world, with the strongest army in the world. "Army" is not a bluish primitive word. Army can exist (and will exist) in every stage. Including green and yellow. It just be much more moral and ethic one. Army is the thing which keeps our high values alive. Army Is the physical armor shield of orange-green-yellow-above values. So its OK to be proud and have warm feeling from that. But its not that within Israel we are all ok. In 2-3 weeks from now we going to have the most currapt government ever was in israel with 4 or 5 ministers who charged with bribery and prime minister who also accused on something similar. And we are, the liberal ones, gonna have a lot of work to do if we want to save our country from drowning in the values of this blue-blue-orange toxic governmemt. The story of Eva (in english!) Here: https://instagram.com/eva.stories?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=cqvnloqufjpw

@Truth Addict when Israel will just reach tier 2, the rest of middle east will still be at tier 1.

@MLKFan Green people still use rational thinking they have learned from orange. Green doesnt cancel that but only add more styles of thinking. For example green scientists will be rational but also much more intuitive and creative. Orange thinks that intuition is like a religion and misleading thinking we should avoid. Orange uses rationality as an ideology and the 'only good way' to think. Green uses rationality only when he thinks its nessesary.

Meditation and enlightment are HUGH things. I am doing meditation for 2.5 years so far and it one of the most important things i have in life. and i know i have long way to go and I know that I am still very far from the level of enlightened people. But, we also have brain which is planned to survive. and this brain includes within all its experience from millions of years. And no matter how enlightened you will be - if you dont have connections and relationships with people, you will feel emotional pain, which its goal is to push you back to your tribe in order to not get eaten by a tiger... so even if people are surrounding you, but you are overthinking and you live too much in your head - your sub-consiouse brain will suspect you are alone, and it will turn itself into "alone" mode, and pour cortizol into your bloodstream. You can say "but meditation can change the brain". yes, but you cannot change the core-stracture of it - the essence of its stracture that is planned to keep you alive. In other words - you CAN be enlightened and you can also know that you are NOT your brain. true... but you still HAVE brain, and if it doesnt get its needs - it will hurt you. Excactly in the same way that you can be enlightened and still have strong abdominal pain. its not different. I started to realized lately that everytime i have strong interesting in something (even very positive issue) and im SO into that issue and it lasts several days (and i'm live in my head almost completely) - after few days i get much more anxious about topics that are completely different from the issue i was doing in that week. its just happeing because the reason above. the topic of the anxiety is just an excuse for the brain to show you that you are anxious. so it made me think that no matter how much insights i will have and how much meditation i'll practice - I allways have to feel connected to people in order to feel good.

@Shadowraix i agree with you that people cant solve ego-backlash. I meant that i think a significant part of the ego backlash is just the fact that the over-sinking in the topic itself (self growing, self actualization, theory, practice and etc.) Make you more isolated and make you feel different from other people and thats creates emotional difficulties. What i trying to say is that even tough those things are important, the balance between them and the other things in life is no-less important And than if you have balance - the ego backlashes you feel will be much easier and include only the core mechanism of the backlash (the mind's desire to maintain homeostasis) without the isolation effect. Iam not saying i am right and you are wrong. Maybe i need people much more than you. Maybe you see things i dont. I am not trying to convince and to compete anyone, but to add my point of view to the thing. Agree to disagree is also ok ?

Modiin, Israel ?? And half of the time in Tel Aviv ???

@Shadowraix you can change your brain a lot (and i can't underestimate the potential, because if i were i wouldnt watch leo's videos and write in the forum) but you cannot make a fish to be a bird. There is limit for how changable we can be. Fish will always need the water to breath and bird will always need the air. Write me this again next time you have strong ego-backlash and tell me you wouldn't able to avoid a good amount of it if you were more with people and less in your own routine which would created much more balance for your mental well being.

I can say that i'm alone but in the same time i am one with everything? Which means that the "alone" you mean is different in its meaning from the "alone" which i think of? Like we use the same word but not exactly the same meaning? Because it seems to me that it is impossible to be alone (in the original naive meaning of the word) without triggering the survival mechanisms of our brain. Maybe you right and we are all one thing and this is the reality (its becase every cause has infinite effects and every effect has infinite causes?) But the brain doesnt think like that. It may help you emotionally but from biologically point of view we cannot cheat our brain all the time. Sooner or later it will need physical and psychological interaction with other brains, in order to not send you painful signals (excactly like your stomach that would send you "starving" signals if you wouldnt eat for several hours and more). ? Thats what i think.

And thats the reason we are all one organism and there is no such a thing "connection" between people?

@Andreas why it proves? We have different genetics. Only identical twins i think have close to equal genetics.

@Andreas the question is how big is the genetic difference. I can give an example of me and my brother that we both obviously grew up in the same house and family (same psychology and same environment) and still we are significantly different people, and that is also because our genetics differences.

The environment and the way of living has an hugh inpact of which genes will play a significant role and which genes will be supressed and shutted off, so i think it must be both as serotoninluv says.