Nivsch

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  1. Yes, in my opinion, a Green world of compassion to all living creatures, veganism, equality with healthy sides of prior stages too is BETTER than an orange dominant world or blue world. Yes, we need also all prior stages (healthy sides) in our life and behaviour every day, and still society who hasn't reached green and yellow yet, is less good than society who reached it, because there is less flexibility in this kind of society, less awareness, more suffering and more mental health and physical health issues to people. But if you put every stage alone - so then - indeed no stage is better as itself. Because no stage can live alone. Every stage must have the support of the prior just like we cant have a building with only 4th floor (without 1-3). I want to use yellow strategy to meet every person in HIS stage, and in that way to make the society less polarized and this is alone will help people move up and open to new stages, I think. Netanyahu is thriving under polarization conditions and he tries to polarized us all the time with his de-legitimating the left campaign. So what i want is to use yellow strategy to de-polarized the society. But i cant do it alone! Thats why i want other political activists to understand that, and do it too
  2. Oh OK. I understand. Its weird because i feel like I am not different from them. I have the same liberal and equality values as them, I feel the same passion about those values like them, and I think that our values are MUCH better than those of anti-democratic and Orthodox people. But still i do attract enormously to Spiral dynamics and they don't (or much less than I). Thats why its seems weird to me. Maybe there is something i missing out here.
  3. If they are political activists (center-left wing sector) and they want to take right-wing voters and move them more towards the center (they DO want because they are busy all the time on trying to convince right-wing voters to vote differently - vote us) = to move up them a bit in the spiral. so here is a model to help you to that! Thats why they supposed to be interested in the model because it may help them convince right wing voters to vote our centered party. Why it doesn't make sense? If we make people move up a little bit in the spiral = they will be more moderate and centered people = we will have more votes.
  4. Do the "Do Nothing" method for 15-20 minutes every few hours. Also apply this method sometimes when you have an intrusive tought/feeling. Don't confuse 'Do nothing' as the regular meaning you know, with the 'Do nothing' in this video which is the true one. You have to exercise this method with a timer and only than you will be able to apply it in 'free space'. Always combine timer + 'free space' in doing this method. Applying only one of the above may not be effective enough (in my experience and opinion) because your brain can trick you in many ways and reduce the effectiveness when you do it only with timer or only when there is a tough thought. Everytime you feel your brain wants to think too strongly or has an urge to do something - hit the brakes! Wait, drink or eat something, take a deep breathe, and than continue to what you want to do - slowely This can shorten/soften significantly the ego backlash period. And also - be with family and friends a lot, especially during ego backlash times.
  5. In obamas era it wouldnt happen.
  6. But its not random because this model is about cultural values development and that is exactly what they want to do as a political activists - to make more people (from the right-wing) convinced in their values and vote for their (more liberal) party. In other words to move up stages.
  7. But what is the point if i'm not influencing them, even slightly?
  8. @Aakash @Shiva interesting. maybe they will be more open to the model during the time (especially if we loose the election ?)? thanks ?
  9. I'm not forcing them at all. I try to do it smoothly and friendly. I think its legitimate to want my country to progress a little faster (and not like a turtle).
  10. Really like your answer very cheering me up. The main thing brought me to actualized.org is my OCD and anxiety disorder i have, and i started with Leo's videos of meditation techniques and later to the more 'hard core' videos and also then - in order to make my mental health better (the main reason) and it really helps me. Obviousely also my political interest plays a role here. Maybe because of my mental issue and the way i went in with the meditations for 2.5 years (so far) - it made me a little more developed than most of the activists in my political Party? Note that the reason i want to teach them SD, is in order to give them the ability to make Israel society move up the spiral much more efficiently (because its possible only through yellow strategy because green strategy will only make the society polarized) and be more advanced country.
  11. Mezanti, its not true no matter how much times you repeat it. I live in a settlement which many career soldiers are living in especially Israeli military pilots. I know very well the culture of those people from when i was 4 year-old. They are sensitive people, they have high values of humannity and acceptance, and ethics. They are liberal people. Life values are above everything. Hamas (leaders of palestines in gaza) knows that, and just because of that, he fires from hospitals, from children gradens, from schools and in this way its impossible for Israel to not kill MISTAKENLY Innocent civilians from time to time. Hamas forces his civilians to stay close to him physically when fires to make israel not to attack them just because they KNOW Israel's "weakness" (morality). Hamas executes people who has suspected in co operating with israel, and than dragging his body on the road with a car! You cant even imagine how barbaric they are including to they own people. They have no limits at all.
  12. I cannot answer this because you only say "no no you are wrong". Ok.
  13. This is not true. The Palestines are suffering because of their leaders "Hamas" who takes all the money they get on daily basic from israel and waste it on terror weapons, terror summer camps of 5 year old Palestines children with weapons on their shoulders (videos are spreading all the time in the net), terror tunnels, missiles and etc. They could be "singapure" of the middle east if they wanted so. Israel acts only when provoked and missiles thretenes the life of israeli children. Hamas uses its citizens and even hospitals as human shields and hides missles in active hospitals! I respect the purpose of this forum so i dont want to start an argument about it but i had to answer that. We can keep talking in private if you want
  14. ?? Netanyahu i think is not a bad man inside of him but the survivle urge (trying not to go to jail) makes him regress back in his values and threaten the democracy regime. And even before this, from day one, he always splits the society and incites his voters against the other half.
  15. Hi shahar im also from israel nice to know you are here! Can you share what do you think we have to do to make Israel better?
  16. What do you mean Leo can you explain? There are indeed problems: 1. Our current prime minister Netanyahu is very similar to Trump. He is probably corrupt and endangers the mentality of his voters in a toxic de-humanization of the left. Just now he failed of establishing a government and we are in #2 election in just half a year! In 17.9 we have a second chance to defeat him. If he wins, he will be dangerous for the supreme court because he wants to escape the jail with all cost! Our democracy is thretened in a way it was never before. 2. 45% of israelis are well developed people (orange-green) and if we win - Israel will back to the right rout. 17.9.2019 is the 2nd election (the first was only 2.5 months ago).
  17. Maybe they think you showed stage turquoise differently to what they meant? Because of the spiritually context of it. And in previous stages the story is much more clear, and there is no problem because there is only one way to produce them.
  18. Maybe Youtube managers are at yellow and therefore opposed to turquoise values ?
  19. Can you explain why? It can be a very powerful tool to wake up people if i will be able to explain WHY their capitalist ideology is dangerous (and help them move to green). 2. When you will upload this topic (conscious politics) to youtube? I am very curious about this topic.
  20. @11modal11 how can vladimir putin be Coral?! he eliminates people who are opposed to him and supresses gay protests. putin is just BLUE for my opinion. Coral wouldnt do those unmoral and unconsiouse things.
  21. @Leo Gura it will be also about helping people (and my country) move up the spiral? ?
  22. Soften them more and more as long as you keep developing. If your mental issues aren't getting milder and softer during the months and years (long run) of self development - then you are not developing.