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"Israeli elite" is not one thing and there are many people there with many opposite opinions and personality types. they are just human beings... Netanyahu loves money, thats one of his weaknesses. Actually I dont like the current government. I wish the opposite party will win. We gonna have the #3 elections within a year(!) in March 2nd.

Its not about evillness at all. They dont want a foreign country in their area. It threaten their identity as they see it. Israel doesnt want any piece of land outside Israel. Even the right wingers dont want. and I am even not right winger. Get your face above your biased water too for one second.

So why does Iran hide its activities 60 meters under the ground? One of the facilities is under a mountainside.

@Annoynymous UN has RECOGNIZED and APPROVED Israel as a legitimate state. And only AFTER that, the arab coutries invaded Israel. But EVEN if it was illegal, do you really think you will bring ALL your army and risk your life because of law stuff? Only in the name of a logical law? its insane. ?

@Annoynymous you forgot to write that your neighbours countries usually dont decide all of them to kill you only 1 day after you have been established.

@Annoynymous If 5 countries encircled you and tried to kill you (1948, 1973) you also would develop a strong army and great detterence psychological power in order to survive. Be sure about that. Survival made Israel to develop a such strong and sophisticated army.

Because of their self biases as arabs who feel threatened by Israel the only and super tiny state in the hugh arab middle east. Today people in the arab region start to understand that Israel have not any intention to do any bad to them. Just wants to live in its tiny piece of land that we have an hystorical connection to and to be able to defend ourselves in order that events like the holocaust won't able to relapse.

Again - The thought that only a VISIBLE war makes this kind of elimiination legitimate is a mistake, becasue Iran does every day more steps into its goal to encircle Israel and spread across middle east, and this is itself is enough threathment that justifies preventive actions.

This self bias here is fully symetric. Don't say to me you are responding to me from a yellow perspective. I'll try to look at the picture also from US perspective, but you also have to think of Israel perspective if you want to be fair.

How? Its quite naive to think that Iran wants to diminish Israel only because there is still not a solution with the palestines (and I want that solution). It much deeper than this.

Nuclear weapon in the hands of RED regime who declares usually it wants to diminish Israel is too dangerous. Please remember that Israel is a small dot in the map compared to US and one missle with nuclear weapon might really destroy Israel. Take into account Israel's perspective too.

Do you recgonize this BLUE rigid assumption (disguised as spiritual content) you did right now?

The thought that only a VISIBLE war makes this kind of elimiination legitimate is a mistake, becasue Iran does every day more steps into its goal to encircle Israel and spread across middle east, and this is itself is enough treathment that justifies preventive actions. At least for Israel there is a big significance of this elimination. why? because Iran leaderships have declared very clearly it wants to destroy Israel. You can google about what middle east experts think about the hegemonic aspirations of Iran to spread across the middle east and encircle Israel, and this isn't because of love and desire to hug Israel. I understand what you say about look outside my perspective, ok, but try also to take my perspective into account.

Iranian regime wants to build a nuclear weapon and thats the reason for the sanctions. I think the regime has most of the responsibility to the economist state there, even without sanctions and We see it in Gaza too that the leaders there are in the same mentality as Iran leaders (they are iran's proxy) and they invest the money in themselves and not in the civiliams who live in poverty because of Hamas leadership.

I will answer this soon after i will go deeper into your message (need to read more than once) but in meantime look what I have answered above to SerpeaTetra.

Not the US doesnt make hugh mistakes. It does. but it is still not morally symetric. Iran leadership kills innocent civilian intentionally. USA at least try to kill only terrorists. Maybe doesnt try hard enough but it is still very different from Iran's motivations.

@28 cm unbuffed Just achieving things - for examples financial freedom - A. Doesnt necessarily makes you above orange and B. Doesn't prevent you from being above orange if you have not achived it yet. It is more about your thinking development and not about if you have done every stage "mission" (there is some overlap but not necessarily at all). Combining orange with money or yellow with non-neediness of other people is way to simplified. SD is a stractural model (and not content based). the content we see is second order and just a side effect, that sometimes matches more to the classical associations we have about those colors and sometimes not.

@Annoynymous and the fact Qasem Soleimani is responsible to thousands innocent people killed is not important? Killing Hitler was also against liberty and freedom?

@Leo Gura But Leo, don't you think it is too much 'masculine' kind of approach (and not balanced)? I reffer only to the last message you wrote. If spirituality means less safety and less stability, doesn't it contradict what we want to add to our life through it?

@Bridge to Infinity you shouldn't go deep in spirituality if you don't take in account maslows hierarchy of needs or Spiral dynamics. Healthy development is a balance between the warm individual colors with the cold collective colors. Spirituality is not a solo journey. Is spirituality doesn't make him to be "melted" into the flow with other people and rather makes him stuck only in his own head - then its not healthy. Even if you are god, you are still in a human being form, which in you are not alone and have other human beings with you to make connections with. This is a basic need we all have. His anxiety has to be treated with exposure to social meetings and with psychoteraphy.

Last month I heard couple of videos (of Leo and Aaron doughty) about how to be attractive. I found these videos very helpful and it feels to me very right. The most attractive state is to transmit others that you are already whole and complete all by yourself, and you don't need anyone (but you just want, that this is ok). But, my intuition tells me for a long time again and again, that this is not fully true. I feel that I really and clearly want, for example, romantic relationship. Also I feel, that living always alone, won't make me fullfiled. Which means - I need other people to some degree. So how it gets along with the "whole and complete" message, It feels to me there is a contradiction here. How can I transmit to other people this attractive state, if I don't believe that this is fundamentally true? There is some significant degree of truth in this attractive attitude, but its still limited and not completely true. I dont know about what one feels when he becomes super developed, but it is far enough and not relevant to the near (and medium range?) future.

So simple it easy to underestimate how infinitly intelligent this method is.

I understand what you say. makes sense. I feel that in my case the desire for relationships comes not from a stressed position but from higher source intuition, also when I am fully relaxed. Maybe for most people (at least for myself) to really reach this place one have to go through relationships, and the higher-self intuition wants me to take this road.

Maybe after some relationships it can be possible. not sure if self work alone is enough. I agree with you about the abundance. Seems like a developed person. Subscribed. thanks!

Very cool !!