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I think the women won't be punished because of the fairly naive situation. But yes this is a problem Gazans face and they are so scared to tell authentic feeling against hamas especially in public, but there are such voices in the last days starting to appear. @Lila9 From where are you? Happy 4th candle🕯

Oh I didn't realize its actually candies for terror attack celebrations! 🍡🍬🧨🚀🔥 What an immoral soldiers 😒😄 No this is so bad I must balanced it out with some good news....

@zazen You are creating toxic and dangerous symmetry betweem both sides which has nothing to do with the truth. I can admit many problems Israel has and need to take responisibility to, but I can't agree to participate in a symmetry game. A serious discussion cannot be done by a cherry picking stratrgy of extremist claims creating a fake map of symmetry between an uttely cruel side who honor death in its essense ("Shuhada"/"Shaid") and way of life and education, and a side who honor life. And if you think its a childish cliche, ask the Gazans activists who appeal to hamas and they will proudly say to you the exact same thing. This is real even if hard to believe.

@Raze Instead of cherry pick crazy extremists from the stands all the time like this thread is saturated with, try to just listen to the players themselves. Leaders and even more so citizens. This will help much more.

@How to be wise Those 18 years has been used to build a terror empire in gaza. That is their life meaning. This is much deeper than just things that Israel does or doesn't.

@kenway Just a stupid soldier. Don't have to pay attention to everyone.

I would never dare to demonize an entire society without even visiting there and hearing its people firsthand, not to cherry pick some Rabi or an extreme leftist. This is just a matrix of stories and images in the mind of the demonizer without knowing how far it is from reality.

@Merkabah Star hamas terrorists as a virus analogy is correct. Nobody said that word about palestinians. Don't gaslight please. Not gonna reduce myself to your message's level 🙂

@zazen Don't run from constructive critisism and return it back onto me even if it sounds a bit edgy to you, and rather confront the claims directly. The explanation about the virus vs bacteria sounds serious in your opinion? Insisting hamas are "people" and "not a virus" is a symptom to a bigger problem here. Thats because of the need one feels to deffend hamas terrorists even if done only through teminology this is very problematic. I am not saying you did that and maybe I had to respond directly to the one who did it and anyway there is nothing personal here. Camp david message is quite long I will answer to this. Netanyahu is also to blame in the fact he have let hamas get stronger as a purpose strategy to avoid negotiation with the palestinian authority.

People here cannot even agree when I call hamas a "virus". They insist they are people! Thats what important right now in their eyes. So you expect them to admit a truth in a five sentences length explanation? A waste of time.

Utterly naive black & white thinking. And twisted. Reality proved to be many times just the opposite.

Exactly. And they are complaining we want to put an end to hamas while sitting in their (yet) safe home at the foot of the mountain from which they just moralize and throw instructions to Israel and to the 20 yo half-kids who are risking their lives right now. How low of a behaviour and how low self awareness.

@kenway The answer won't matter to you and we both know that

Israel has responsibility to stop expanding the settlements, to declare on this officially from a position of strength after won the war in Gaza, and to initiate an agreement with the palestinians on an independent state for them surrounded by a security belt of 10-20 km depth with IDF forces in it, and see if they will want to negotiate or still be a serial peace refusal.

Won't stop the war because the virus must be eliminated if you want any hope and future for Gazans without a tyrranic brainwashing cult controlling them.

@zazen Please see 3 or 4 pages backwards I wrote what I think about that video.

Exactly.

@Merkabah Star Confront my claim to the point. No healing possible for them as long as hamas is in charge.

The most evil* thing to do. If you keep the virus active, those children will keep suffering and be misserable with no decent life or future, under hamas's cult with Jihad education and tyranni, exactly like they were suffer before this war if not worse.

@Danioover9000 If I judge on tonality the interviewer (podcast owner empanada) who was against Israel in this debate was very nervous and cutted Aziz all the fucking time in the middle of sentences, And at the end kicked him out the interview just because he doesn't like his claims. @Lila9 Thank you! 😊

@Danioover9000 Why "brainwashed"? Why not just convinced? Or thought for himself and made his own conclusions? If he is brainwashed, then everyone is.

Happy Hanukkah 🕎🥰 Today we light 2 candles (not include the one in the middle which is the "Shamash"). Every day we light one candle more than the day before, until the 8th day in which we light all the eight candles. Its not a coincidence this holiday celebrated during the darkest days of the year when the sun set is the earliest and its maximal altitude during the day is the lowest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah

Wow a great video! I listened to it ALL. And the most interesting thing is that the pro Israel side is a palestinian 😵 He was so reasonable in his claims. But the interviewer (the podcast owner) was impulsive, cutted him all the time in the middle and cutted him off the interview at the end and his claims were utterly childish, and if I remove his wrong terminology (genocide? 😂 ) his claims are rooted in 10-20% of truth because Israel has responsibility to not trigger their initial tendencies and to be more just in the settlements issue.

@danniel IDF may behave too loosely sometimes in this war especially when this is done from distance (with justifications or not I really don't know enough honestly I believe sometimes not), but contrary to that IDF also goes out of its way to help manage the things for palestinian civilians when get in direct contact with them in a way that honestly this is not common at all to see in other war zones in the world. War cannot be a clean thing, not when you have to heal the body from a virus taken over it all and made also palestinians lives very bad to begin with even before this war.

+1 🧡