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This thread's goal is to show the election campaign Israel has entered into this month. I am going to show the dynamics here in a new way, which is even more transparent and direct than before. The main emphasis here will be party leaders' daily declarations, the secondary emphasis will be key journalists and Knesset members. I don't want you to suffice with tweets I add here but also to enter the links I will add to every message, read further about the candidates's tweets, and follow twitter's suggestion for you on more politicians from the same political camp. The camps will be represented as evenly as possible and polls will be shown on a weekly basis. All tweets I will add here are originally in Hebrew and aimed to Israeli ears, therefore they reflect a purely internal discussion. I hope you will enjoy reading this thread and you can always ask whatever you want, even if it will be emotionally uncomfortable for me π
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You can Follow Gantz here: https://x.com/gantzbe
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@Husseinisdoingfine Look here: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-904480?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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Right-wing: Makor Rishon, Israel national news https://www.israelnationalnews.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Center: Ynet https://www.ynetnews.com/category/3083 Left-wing: Haaretz https://www.haaretz.com/
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@Heaven I get you. We can't control who wants to understand and who doesn't. We can just show things as they are as much as possible and let people think for themselves.
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Our body is intelligent, but the disorder is also a part of our body. On the coast close (about 15-minutes drive away...) to my apartment, groups of jellyfish tend to come to the beach around July, make swimming less comfortable and sometims painful. Maybe instead of trying to fix this situation, we make an efforts to swim carefully in the summer, but also do the less intuitive move of swimming during autumn and winter months. it will surely be less pleasant, but our body will gain new things and abilities from that. My thoughts that sometimes fall into the definition of "OCD" thoughts have pushed me to improve my self esteem and reach new ways of thinking I could not have reached without the 'condition'. I know that this structure won't disappear but I don't think anymore it should. So maybe we were accustomed or programmed to see all these things not as they really are.
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So basically they are coasting on dopamine fumes most of the time?
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Relative political positions as follows. Is this enough Right or enough Left? Judge yourself! Links are from the international Wikipedia. There will be some changes during the time, so see this as a starting point. Satellite tinier parties will be shown weekly on this thread too. Right-wing π°β²οΈ candidates Ben Gvir, Smotrich, Netanyahu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezalel_Smotrich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud - - - - - - Center-Right π€ candidates Avigdor Liberman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisrael_Beiteinu - - - - - - Center π candidates Gantz, Lapid (teamed up with Bennett who is more right-wing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesh_Atid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Gantz - - - - - - Center-Left π‘π² candidates Eisenkot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yashar_(political_party) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadi_Eisenkot - - - - - - Left-wing βοΈππ candidates Yair Golan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Democrats_(Israel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yair_Golan - - - - - - Arab population βͺοΈπ representatives Mansour Abbas, Ahmad Tibi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansour_Abbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta'al
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Yes, this is depressing Here is a good one on this topic
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@Majed But you describe an ideal version of this, which is very difficult to reach for the average person. The ability of a domain to mobilize people upward towards healthier and higher version of living life is the litmus test for its goodness. If only 5% of people in a given religion (be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity) can become really fulfilled then it isn't good enough.
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@zazen Yeah exactly (: Even sharper than I put it
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Hey (: How are you? I think the only chance something will change here is with the opposition parties. This will take time and won't be easy anyway. A lot of potential backlashes, a lot of fear of sharp statements after Oct7. Super-sensitive issue here. The differences between them and the coalition are real and significant, but I don't want to feel like trying to point this or that to people. This is anyway not helpful, and I feel I have squeezed this π I just can recommend to do a research about these opposition parties leaders, and ask whatever you want. Eisenkot Yair Lapid Yair Golan Bennett. He is anti two-states but part of the anti-netanyahu sector today leading the party "together" with Lapid who is in favor of this solution. Gantz Liberman Their parties are displayed in detail on "List of members of the twenty-fifth Knesset" on the English Wikipedia. I hope I haven't forgot someone.
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Netanyahu's government, his coalition's parties and plenty of their supporters indeed prefer hamas' rule in Gaza instead of the PLO.
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@Alexop So a Left coalition. You will be the responsible adult to restrain the wokies π
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@Alexop If you win as the biggest party, is there a chance the Greens and the Oranges will agree to make a coalition with you? Then you won't get too stuck (as if you were with the oranges alone) and also won't cause backlash from the conservative side.
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@Alexop What are the key differences between the woke V and the Green MP?
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@Alexop Oh Good luck Can you show a poll of the different parties and their relative power? π
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+1 β₯οΈ
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I think it can be a defense mechanism, but also can be a healthy development into Blue or Green in a form of "religous" lifestyle, but there are many other forms to do that transition like volunteer at a non-profit organization, start doing Yoga or Meditation, start Veganism etc
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No! They are all red Zi0nists ππΆ (;
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Maybe there is intelligence in the disorder too.
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@Raze In Iraq the ratio was also around couple of civilians for each combatant, similar to Gaza.
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@Raze So You just dismiss out of hand any analyst who shows what is inconvenient to you. As far as I understand, estimates range widely, and I've seen analyses placing the ratio around 3:1 to 4:1. This doesn't mean I support Bibi's government actions, but some minimal decency is needed.
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@Raze The data is highly divergent between articles and analysts. Its pretty clear the "genocide" trend isn't based on an honest comparison of Western countries conflicts against guerrilla organizations.
