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In this thread you can get a sense of what the discussion in Israel looks like during the war. I will add posts representing a variety of views from across the political spectrum. You are welcome to ask any questions you may have. All posts are translated from Hebrew.

@Atb210201 I don't believe Oct7 was his plan but I do think his policy caused hamas to get stronger and the PLO to get weaker, affected also by far-right partners from the edges of his coalition that has blackmailed him constantly.

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@Atb210201 I won't be surprised if subconsciously there is truth to that. I think this is especially an illness of the far-right ideology.

@Raze Because the need to bring down Netanyahu is the most urgent thing right now and I also would be happy to get help from Bennett for that. Bennett is far better than Netanyahu in so many aspects even if we don't like part of his positions.

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@Raze A convicted criminal appointed by Netanyahu to preserve his coalition's survival.

@Atb210201 Hey hope you are doing well. How have you been? 🙏🏻

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@Raze The article you added shows that in August 2023 alone, 12,072 trucks of civilian supplies have entered Gaza. This implies the situation during the years before oct7. HRW claims to blockade with restrictions on movement and dependency on outside aid. Of course, this is a small state which is closed on all of its borders without access to the sea, but would you let hamas have such access?

@Raze Would you agree Israel will keep a security buffer zone inside Gaza strip? Which civillians items exactly did you mean? How would you balance civilian supplies with preventing hamas from rearming?

I don't understand what you would do.

@Raze How would you deal differently with kind of state ruled by terrorists? Not encompass it with strict borders? The Opposition supported the war until plus minus mid 2024 and then changed their minds gradually. You can check. Me too supported Israel's response to hamas at the beginning of the war.

@zazen I am also worried about nuclear Iran and think the airstrike attacks on the Iranian regime and nuclear facilities are justified.

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@Raze By the way he is a great journalist from the mainstream media here (Channel 12 News)

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It will be interesting to go through this 🤔 Thanks for sharing.

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I admit I do it too sometimes for example towards the Ultra Orthodox in my country, though in other times when I succeed better to separate, I try to remind myself that five years ago when I had a bad time, before I knew better how to help myself with my own ways, I went to CBT therapist who is Ultraorthodox that has a degree on Social Work and had much more open therapeutic view than the common protocols (like really he had regular approach but plus more things) and two years before that I heard about another one who do webiners on NLP with also kind of cutting edge Yellow thinking and writing here right now really helps me to hold the position that there are probably many Ultraorthodox in many spiral stages even if the majority are gravitate towards Blue but this is only in gross averages.

@zazen This is how collective stereotypes are formed. People see violent groups and extreme rhetoric and start generalizing outwards. Israelis sometimes do this towards Palestinians (as we see here in your videos), Europeans sometimes do this towards Israelis, and your message does this too. This is just human nature. And no, Youtube is not a reliable way to understand a country or society. For that you need much deeper exposure than videos and preference-driven algorithms.