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This is the primary fantasy, where men seek sex objects and woman seek success objects. But in practice the secondary fantasy plays a huge role for attraction depending on where they are at in there development and becomes more important as men mature and reach higher levels of development. Secondary Fantasy: Shared values, interests, lifestyle choices, temperaments, plans and dreams for the future, and compatible needs around time spent together, money, and sex. Primary fantasy is essential just in the initial attraction phase, long term the secondary fantasy is more important.

Go to balance both the feminine and masculine in one person. Learn to switch between Agentic and Communal situationally.

Or send them a sweat message letting them go like a gentle man. Wish them the best on there journey.

Avoid criticizing people using derogatory language. I'm no saint myself, just keep it clean.

Nono! I was making a comparison between the different ideas people can like. I see the appeal of someone saving themselves, its a cute story. There are other appealing stories out there as well. Im also a romantic type and i have to admit that a lot of it is idealistic and not representative of the quality of relationships we actually want.

I see the cuteness to. I also like the idea of someone who worked on themselves for years before dating me.

That makes sense, we all experience this in some form at some point in our lives. I was the same way when I was younger, I was scared of touching my first gfs vagina because it felt tainted by some other guy who was here before me. Like i might catch a disease some how. lol after having sex I was insecure that I was not good in bed and that some other guy was better and jealous like crazy about any guy who was around her, I was highly attached and possessive but didnt show it, of course it would be desirable for my insecurities if she didnt have a sexual past. Does this sound appealing to you for a man to date? Because men who "want to date virgins" think this way. They haven't grown up yet. A man or woman's possessive jealousy will drive a relationships into the ground 100% of the time. This is not true love. Its possible your insecurities want a man to be possessive or else you feel he will abandon you. But this desire wont give you the result you want, he will abandon you or you will inevitably leave him, because hes simply immature. Good point, to add to that I think romanticizing moral virtue is a trap. Woman saving themselves are denying there biology and a victim of sexual suppression. So the solution is the do anal? Blue is very low level when it comes to sex and the selection process of men, men think non-virgins are unmarriable and judgement is inevitable. Non of this represents the mark of a loving man. Moral virtue is good only in movies, in practice its a tool for segregation. They think virginity is a sign of commitment, loyalty and moral virtue but its really a sign of suppression and fear. So surprisingly Leonardo's selection process is more developed, because hes at the least being honest to his sexual desires!

@Tyler Robinson when someone tells you they only prefer virgins you should run the other way. It represents pickiness, insecurity, disgust and judgement for women who are not virgins, discrimination and a closed mind. But because you are a virgin you think it’s appealing. A lot of men who only prefer virgins are incels. No one is rejecting virgins or shaming them here. The point of this discussion is directed only to men who want to date virgins and to show them the real world. saying you only wanna date virgins is like saying you only date women under the age of 25 Leonardo DiCaprio style.

+1 Good post, I prefer using the app “Habit Tracker” Also delete YouTube and TikTok and Reddit from your phone apps

I agree most people don’t learn anything they just repeat the same mistakes their entire life. it’s also very unlikely to be able to have a healthy relationship when you have no relationship experience. Healthy relationships require healthy sex, that intimacy is part of the learning experience.

It’s a common problem I think the recommendation was to focus on the softness of the sheets, muscle relaxing, Good sensations in the body, happy mindset of no worries or expectations to sleep and the comfyness of the mattress.

It’s not the number of partners she has, it’s her mindset, what engaging in sex means to her. The stereotype is that if they had a lot of partners sex doesn’t mean much to them it’s just a pleasure seeking activity and they don’t bond deeply. This isn’t the case it completely depends.

Consider that there is no need to agree or disagree. Agreeing and disagreeing is a game and a distraction from actually getting anywhere. True or False isnt happening anywhere. It’s just another perspective some guy is hallucinating.

Incorrect. Who told you this? Ye its incomplete, i was trying to make the point that functions like Te don't hold values. Values and functions are separate. Functions are tools that serve the persons values. This confusion is the root of all MBTI stereotyping.

You cant tell me this whole story isn't hilarious

i know and the best part is i just us Ni-Fi to figure out peoples types, no logic or thinking involved. Naaaa man got to reread what I wrote, It was a critique of the thread "A Summary of CSJoseph's "What is Extraverted Thinking". Then he said something about how CSJoseph's will debate anyone anywhere with just raw street knowledge and it felt like something you would do. lol So i linked you right under the quote.

LOL your going to love this, the book I just read mix's 9 models together (Primary Fantasy, lines of development, spiral dynamics, spiritual, sexual, and anima/animus development, states, personality types, and the perspectives of the four quadrants) into one identifier called The Kosmic Address! Ill create a post on this behemoth soon.

That's a reasonable take. To add to it, NoFap is recommended for people with various digestive issues, there was a thread a while ago that was pretty good on a guy who i think had a autoimmune issue and masturbation triggered it, he ended up curing the issue some how and he can finally start masturbating again (thank god) Personality if i masturbate I'm weaker at the gym, i need to eat something to replenish before going.

Its generally a sign of conservatism.

Didnt say he was a Te user check bellow. @thisintegrated Standard ENTP behavior, reminds me of someone. But ye im pretty sure hes ENTP just at blue/orange. LMAOOO is it really that bad? ? you might have an allergy to models, im sure you'll tell me why it cant be cured.

The most loving thing that you can do in this situation is to give love to yourself. Become addicted to growth, go to the gym, eat healthy, clean up, read books, watch self-help, progress in your job/career, socialize with healthy people, feel the joy of being alive, become in love with life. Everything that your looking for is down this path, everything that you want will come to you while you venture down this path.

This is Te embodied by orange. If we intersected the two models there is Te and how it looks from every spiral stage. Te at green no longer values credentials for example. A lot of this sounds like the stereotype for a ISTJ. The green+ INTJ couldn’t be less impressed my a PDH. He is conflating peoples values with functions creating stereotypes of each mbti type as part of his internal model. @thisintegrated Standard ENTP behavior, reminds me of someone.

Take 100% responsibility for your life. https://youtu.be/GfF7EpHXyDY

I think there’s too much risk involved with this specific experiment.

Got to be better at filtering men out based on there dating profile. If they are not at stage green don’t waste any time dating them. Look for the word spiritual but not religious in the profile and other indications of emotional intelligence that you can infer based on their hobbies and lifestyle. It’s very dangerous for you to date people below green on the dating app because they will very likely push for sex on the first date and you will cave in and not know how to say no to him. Resulting in sex with someone you don’t want to have sex with and trauma. in general you’re only compatible with people who have very high emotional intelligence and a willingness to understand mental health problems. Without that willingness it will only be fighting and arguing and them trying to change you through judgement. Please be very careful on first date in real life, be ready to punch someone in the face. It’s extremely common for a guy to aggressively make a move on these dating apps on first dates and most shy girls who can’t say no properly just go with it not expecting it to escalate.