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Well there is no reference of 5 times prayer in the Quran. Prayer is something universal you have it with Hindus you have it with Buddhists, Jesus Christ told the people to pray. Prayer is a means for people to devote and put their their lives to the higher power, to the absolute God, (if you dont think God exists at all, and that everything is a coincidence, I woner how you made 13.000 posts on this forum). Prayer is can also be a good mean to kill your ego and is certainly a good way to be grateful for what you have instead of wanting more and more like a greedy ungrateful person, of whom we have plenty on the planet. The Quran says there is no duty to follow the religion. So nobody has to become obsessive about anything. You can be a Sufi and use Islam as a mystical form of reaching higher states of Consciousness, which is what Sufis are regularly doing, they receive visions of the prophet and its followers, his daughter Fatima. I heard Sufi stories already its as real as you can imagine. And they do unimaginable stuff to their bodies, like pushing a sword into ones head who is in an out of body experience. The basis for their mystical Experiences is Islam, not a psychedelic drink or something, but chanting praise to Allah in a very repeated manner while they dance alongside that I went to a holy Islamic Shrine in Iran once, and felt a deep sense of peace when I was extremely anguished, where did that sense of peace come from? If you follow Islam, like a lunatic, obsessive person who only lives his life to read through that entire book, of course you become nuts and think even breathing will get you to hell, but use commong sense, be well grounded in Wisdom and be a person of reason as Surah 3:/ quoted above says and understand the context of its appearance and its necessary hell references that were needed to bring order into a barbaric population.

There is no stoning punishment in the Quran, that's from the Old Testament (Thora). Yes I agree with you about the cutting hands off of the thieves, but the following verse says not to do so, if they repent. I understand that more as a harsh threat to big time Thieves that steal with no remorse, like nowadays you see corrupt Politicians and Big Companies stealing money with no shame. As already said, it was a violent and corrupt and barbaric time of evil surrounding the present all the time with constant tribal wars and superstition, so its a totally different era than ours is now, you cannot compare the surrounding conditions with those of now. The Quran has countless references to Compassion and Forgiveness being way higher values than Anger and Confrontation. Sufi Scholars are also scholars and they have visions of the higher spheres and the angels and so son, like the Santo Daime people use Ayahuasca and have visions in a Christian Setting, Sufis have inner realizations and visions and Out of Body Experiences through the Islamic Lense. Here you have Surah 3:6: It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding. It clearly states that some verses are very precise and are the core of the book (The verses about Justice, Compassion, Love God as Oneness of all of Existence, Helping the Poor and the Orphans, and freeing the Slaves) While other verses are elusive and those that search for trouble and have deviant hearts (warmongering people, hateful people, those that abuse the name of God to reach their power or to use their own interpretation) will abuse those verses for their sick heart ambitions. And those are the Extremists you are talking about. It clearly says that noone knows its true interpretation other than God alone

I dont really know. I like the Sufi Path, the mystical path of Islam and not the obsessive take everything literal part of a 1400 year old book that was created in violent and barbaric times in order to bring justice and a revolution to that society. My favourite poet Sufi Poet are Hafiz and Rumi, there are Sufic Groups where you can participate and be initiated and they get into a trance like extasy state through dance and singing. In that state they manage to put swords through their head without anything happening to them, so there must be a truth to it. But reading Hafiz the great Iranian Poet, who was a Sufi himself, you will see that he didnt care at all about the literal take of the book, he was interested in the mystical sides of it, being a regular winedrinker and having spent a lot of his time in bars drinking alcohol

Marrying young girls was common all over the World not even in Arabia. It was common in Europe, in the Roman Empire, in India it was extremely common, even before the onset of puberty. It was common among humans as it was and is common among animals. We dont want it today because we have a different perspective on such things. But it was extremely common all over the world, dont take that as an argument. If one day everybody will be Vegetarian, it doesnt mean that todays meat eaters are criminal alltogether, I myself am a Vegetarian, but dont call my Meat eating friends criminals. You have meat eaters, that do absolutely amazing compassionate work on this planet, allthough they eat what had to be killed before. Nature created all animals in such way as when they reach sexual maturity they will have intercourse, is it okay for todays humans to do so? Of course not, But it is common all over the animal kingdom and it used to be common all over the planet Are all Animals pedophiles that need to be imprisoned? In the Bhagavad Ghita Ajurna (not Krishna) advocates for the Caste System, a system of degrading people and treating them as cockroaches, nonetheless many people including myself regrad it as holy and from the highter power that manifests the universe. I can look past that Caste System reference put it into the context of the peoples tradition and just focus on the message the book wants to give me And thats what you have to do with Islam, instead of putting yout attention on Mohammed, you should investigate the book in its historical context and reach a conclusion wheter it promotoes Compassion Love and Justice or not and it certainly does. I am talking about Islam being a revolution in barbaric and violent times. And if you carefully read the Verses having the context, the barbaric times in mind, the stoning, crucification burying newborn girls alive, tribal warfare, Idol Worshipping and Sacrificing Humans to the Idols , then you can realize that Islam was a revolution teaching the people about Compassion, helping the Poor, helping orphans, Donating Money instead of Accumulating Wealth, Freeing the Slaves. (I think you dont even read this part, because your hatred for Muslims is so deep, you want to see them all dead). If everybody adhered to these concepts then our World would be totally different today. And I am not emotional, its because of people like you, that those atrocities of the Genocide could have happened in the first place. You advocated the Genocide very clearly, its all written down here in the Forum.

Man your sick behaviour and attitude towards the horrible Genocide of the Palestinians and your cheerful attitude to their slaughter two years into the genocide has already told me alot about you. Obviously you hate everything that has to do with Islam, even its people and you like to see them dead. So your opinion doesnt really matter, as you have the blood of 30.000 little Children on your hand, you disqualified in my opinion. And many of those things you stated there are not even true, but again just the fact of how supportive you were towards the death of 30.000 little Muslim Children in another conversation shows me your fucked up ignorance and I know inside of you you wish every muslim to be dead and I wish you dont comment anything I ever post ever. When you see me posting anything just refrain from commenting, as I will reveal your sick character towards innocent Children and innocent Civilians

Of course if you become obsessive about a holy scripture that was written 1400 years ago in a times of barbaric violence and constant tribal warfare and Idol Worship and you apply that scripture obsessively to a time of peace, Democracy and "apparent" human rights advocation (I say apparent, because those countries that promote human rights are those that commit the worst atrocities in other countries) you can become a monster and an Extremist. But you have that behaviour with every religion or ideology that could have been something positive. Take the Word of Jesus Christ who said Love your Neighbour and many other beautiful things, how could those word result into a superstitious, maniac Vatican Controlled Medieval Europe where they burn everybody who is against the Vatican alive at stake? Makes no sense but its like that. If you use any scripture that is very old and written in times of barbarity and become obsessive with it, without having reached inner enlightenment, you can become a fool and a monster. But in Islam you have very good people too, and I personally Love the Sufi direction that Islam took, which is the mystical Islam and brought forth people like Rumi and Hafez, just to name two. But nobody should have any obsession with anything outside of themselves.

As far as I know you are an Indian Nationalist what do you say about Hindusim and its caste system that even Ajurna in the Bhagavad Ghita wrote about how important it is to maintain the Caste System. Is the Baghavad Ghita now in favor of degrading certain human beings and making them untouchable. Id like to know your answer. It doesnt command the stoning of adulterous, thats the Old Testament, the Thora. But it certainly has violent parts, because those times were violent. If violence is part of the daily life, it will certainly enter into written scrptures. People used to bury their daughters alive in those times, Islam came and abolished this practice. Slaves had no way to become free, Islam came and said that freeing slaves will bring you to heaven. I dont agree with some parts of it for todays life of course not, but it was a Revolution and still has Concepts of Love and Compassion, Helping the Poor, Freeing the Slaves. Maybe some ignorant people have added textparts to it over the 1400 years. Nobody knows, what we know is that God is Real and God created various Cultural Traditions Like Islam, the Coming of Jesus Christ, Hinduism and Buddhism. If there are components of Compassion, Unity Love Helping the Poor and the Orphans, Fasting, and refraining from wordly materialism you can certainly be sure that there is a higher power behind it.

Well I am not a Muslim and never have been, I am Iranian and was brought up by very heavy Atheist parents and my entire family unfortunately. I came to Spiritually after two Ayahuasca Sessions and in those sessions I learnt about faith. Lately I have been watching alot of Near Death Experiences after having read the book of Dr Eben Alexander "Proof of Heaven" (he is a neurosurgeon by the way) He had a very deep journey into what happened for him in a state of Near Death and many others have talked about heaven in those experiences. So I stronlgy believe there is a heaven simply because People nowadays can die and be resurrected due to modern Medicine and they come and talk about it. Their stories are fascinating by the way. And as the more I read in the ISlamic Book the more I found about concepts like compassion and Love and that materialism has no value and that we should give money to the poor. But I am not religious I am more interested in Plant Spirits

How is crucifying rebellios slaves necessary at any point? How can a sane person think that that is somehow necessary? Islam brought exactly the freedom of slaves and forced the people so free their slaves so they have a ticket to heaven instead of maintaining slave traditions, if you read surah 90 or 92 or something like that, it commands the people to free their slaves, how is that the same as what the romans did? I know who you are, you are the one cheering for the palestinian genocide and you keep coming with your hatred of Muslims. And I dont even think that you read my Text at all, because I wrote about the freeing of the slaves and you just talk nonsense. I dont wish someone who cheers the death of little Children to comment this post.

What do you mean I didnt understand that exactly. Elon Musk is one of the greatest threats to humankind with his immense wealth and influence and his evil intentions and pure Racism, he literally grew up in Apartheid South Africa He is a born terrorist racist.

Disclaimer: I am not a Muslim nor a Christian, nor any Religion, I am Love incarnated People dont understand Islam nowadays because they take certains verses, that say for example kill the non-believers and say its evil. But back in Pre-Islamic Arabia Non-Believers were not Atheists but they were Idol Worshippers and the verses of killing them happened right in the middle of wars were the Muslims were attacked, persecuted and tortured by the Idol-Worshippers who feared their traditions and their financial interests (the traditional and profitable Sale of Idols in Mecca). If one carefully reads the surahs, one finds out in what barbaric times Muhammed lived, like Slavery being a common thing, sending feminine Slaves into prostitution and so on. So Islam was revealed to him in order to abolish these things like slavery (slowly) to abolish Idol-Worship or the Worship of Kings and Rulers like the Pharao, and especially the Pharaos are heavily criticized in Islam due to their arrogance in portraying themselves as God that have to be obeyed and worshipped. It teaches the human to fast (which was very hard in the dry and hot arabian desert) in order to gain spiritual insights and in order to understand what people without food have to go through. It taught the people not to accumulate wealth, as wealth has no value, but to donate it to the poor. It taught the people to do good deeds like helping orphans and the poor, freeing the slaves and so on. It was a time were God was a statue and that Statue could have been sold and given horrible sacrifices to and he established the Oneness of God in all of existence (not as hypocritical Christians think, that there is a muslim God and a Christian God). So the countless references of Hell are merely a way to frighten the Non-Believer (the Idol Worshippers) and to bring them to change their character and do good deeds with the fear of heel as a bad perspective for them. But if one reads the 99 Names of God in Islam, one will get seriously fascinated. I believe it was written by Angels because it always talks in the first Person Plural form "We" and it is said that it was revealed to Muhammed by Archangel Gabriel

Great. People dont understand Islam nowadays because they take certains verses, that say for example kill the non-believers and say its evil. But back in Pre-Islamic Arabia Non-Believers were not Atheists they were the Idol Worshippers and the verses of killing them happened right in the middle of wars were the Muslims were attacked, persecuted and tortured by the Idol-Worshippers who feared their traditions and their financial interests (the Sale of Idols in Mecca). If one carefully reads the surahs, one finds out in what barbaric times Muhammed lived, like Slavery being a common thing, sending feminine Slaves into prostitution and so on. So Islam was revealed to him in order to abolish slavery (slowly) to abolish Idol-Worship) or the Worship of Rulers like the Pharao of whom all of them are heavily criticized in Islam. It teaches the human to fast (which was very hard in the dry and hot arabian desert) in order to gain spiritual insights and in order to understand what people without food have to go through. It taught the people not to accumulate wealht, as wealth has no value, but to donate it to the poor. It taught the people to do good deed like helping orphans and the poor, freeing the slaves and so on. It was a time were God was a statue and that Statue could have been sold and given sacrifices to and he established the Oneness of God in all of existence (not as hypocritical Christians think, that there is a muslim God and a Christian God). So the countless references of Hell are merely a way to frighten the Non-Believer (the Idol Worshippers) and to bring them to change their character and do good deeds with the fear of heel as a bad perspective for them

October 7th was brutal and horrible yes, nothing compared to the Genocide of a small city with 100.000 Civilians buried and burnt alive though, but still a brutal attack. Nonetheless as brutal as October 7th was, it was completely predictable, the decade long killing and opressing of Palestinians on their own homeland and the arrogance that the entire Middle East should be Israels (watch the Interview between Mike Huckabee and Tucker Carlson), the Zionist Supremacy thinking and the treating of Palestinians as coackroaches and the killing of Tens of thousands of Palestinians before Oct 7th (somehow that is never mentioned as if the whole conflict started on Oct 7th) were all factors that eventually led to October 7th.

The Nazis killed at least 15 Million Russians in World War 2, a lot more than they killed Jews, but there is no historial responsibility for Russians as we see with Israel. Russia is big and powerful and is attacking mainland Europe, so of course Europeans are now scared as fuck, because the violence is getting onto their doorstep, the violence they themselves financed over decades with their shady gas and oil business. Why didnt Europeans make hardcore shady business deals with Russia, while Russia was bombing Syrian Civilians and Syrian Hospitals? You can deduce of it, that the Syrian Civil War wouldnt even have happened if Europeans hadnt funded the Russian War machine. Why did they only start to sanction Russia and stop the business when it came to Ucraine? Because they are scared as fuck, thats the issue, not some human rights shit, they pretend to care about. Europeans define human rights however it suits them.

Elon Musk is just a racist Nazi, probably he used AI to formulate a text that doesnt insult minorities and thats the result. Grok literally admired Adolf Hitler in its beginnings, and then he just said Oops sorry.