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Lol yes I get that. But channeled extraterrestrials often talk about UFO visits. If the first one is true, that is extraterrestrials being channeled and talking about UFO's flying over earth, then thinking UFO's are flying around earth is not a big leap of faith

I think anyone that considers him or herself a reasonable and sensible person, really has no choice but to think extraterrestrials are all too real, if they just do a little research. The internet is just full of it. Personally I love channeled material, which is very often extraterrestrials. I even just started a practice to connect with one, so that one would be able to function as my guide. About half a year ago I asked for contact with an extraterrestrial, or something like that. I remember having 2 odd dreams that night but I woke up with the image and sound of a spaceship flying off, when I woke up the (rather loud) sound even lasted for a couple seconds. Who knows, maybe half of the people here had contact with them, but simply forgot about it. I heard in dreams a lot of extraterrestrials have contact with us, but then we forget about it

I've heard the good Bashar say that open contact (aliens visiting earth) will happen likely between 2025 and 2033 or 2040. So better already get yourself a nice 'welcome aliens' hat at a store or something

Maybe you just activated or awakened a part of yourself that was a little asleep previously, and this unlocked some energy within you. I can't imagine you won't settle down automatically, maybe at a slightly higher baseline? idk

I'm at figuring out what this life is all about for about 5/6 years fairly hardcore, and I still have no clue what's really going on As long as it lasts, what do you want to do with it?

By no means do I think this is what you should do, or what is best, but about the most sensible I can think of atm: 1) Don't look up (or down) to the people around you (at school, your parents, a guru, whoever), don't assume that they know what life is about, or how to make it work. Don't take their suggestions, life philosophies or advice to heart if it doesn't feel good to you. Do know that most people really, really have not figured life out. This is not something to be judgemental about against them, they don't know and it's easy to get sucked into our culture that is so steeped into confusion, that it doesn't know it is . If you want to know something, anything at all, you can. If you want to be more than what others seem to be, you can. You're not a weak or powerless person, but a spiritual being having a physical experience. 2) There is a being called Bashar, he always talks about following your highest excitement, without insisting on what the outcome should be. It will, so he always says, bring you exactly where you need to be, at the right time, the right place. It will align everything for you. I wouldn't make life too complicated, thinking you need to figure it all out. Don't get lost in fantasies about personal development, gaining knowledge, whatever. Just do what is attractive to you, that you love doing, that inspires or intrigues you. Maybe you at the moment just really want to read a certain book, okay to that. Maybe afterwards you feel like doing a practise, okay do that, then you feel like taking a rest, okay do that. See how life responds, and then maybe you'll start gaining trust in life, and life will become a living extasy, if you want it to. 3) actually if you would take one advice, take this one: read the books 'Conversations with God'. Read them until you breath them.

Actually I never understood why people say they can't do 3 hours. After a couple years of meditating on and off I thought I would try long determination sitting. I started with 1 hour, and thought that it wasn't as hard as I thought. Then did 1 h 30, then increased the length 15 minutes each session to 3 hours, and afterwards went further, up to 4 hours (just to try out). Okay 4 hours felt quite horrible, and really didn't want to do it again, but if you want you can just keep sitting right? Maybe people feel they can't do it, because when you set the alarm for 1 hour, your mind starts becoming busy with when the alarm will go off at the 40 minute mark. But if you set the clock for 2 hours, the first hour goes much faster then if you would have set the alarm for 1 hour. That is my experience anyway.

Good work! Could you tell us what you've got from doing the 3 hours for 21 days?:)

No, you need to do the multiplication first, so 5*2 = 10. 10 +5 = 15

Interesting report!:)

Didn't Jesus say "I'm the Truth, the Life and the Way"? I wouldn't assume he was just full of nonsense

I resonate with this. I've been having bad anxiety over the last years too, to the point of panic attacks. I woke up at some evenings and my mind starting to produce anxiety and such. Last year or so, whenever anxiety comes up, I sit with it, letting it wash over me and can feel things releasing while doing so. At some situations, I felt much more open than usual, although there can still be lots of anxiety (maybe it's new produced anxiety). Good to know that my method worked for you, then I'll keep it up:) Anxiety surely is a struggle if it's severe

lol

I've put my alarm:)

I haven't read much of this thread, but just wanted to share what I've read from some books, maybe it helps: The mind has no free will, but you do. and free will and predestination are actually the same thing.

@VeganAwake Man, there seems to be quite some hypocrisy in this message, but it doesn't seem like you're very willing to acknowledge this. How about this: "Bud I'm honestly telling you, you have taken the I am God belief and stacked it on top of your egoic self agenda and have convinced yourself you are God." Bud I'm honestly telling you, I have taken the nothing matters belief and stacked it on top of my egoic self agenda and have convinced myself nothing matters. "I don't have any attachments so I don't know why you keep projecting that belief this direction..." I do have attachments so I don't want you to keep projecting that belief this direction... "You also avoid any tough questions on your direct God realization experience... " I avoid any tough questions on my nothing matters belief... "I don't need my experience validated over and over again to satisfy some kind of egoic specialness requirement..." I need my experience validated over and over again to satisfy some kind of egoic specialness requirement... "I love you but seriously holy smokes dude you're stubborn as hell..." I love you but seriously holy smokes dude I'm stubborn as hell... lol, retyping that last sentence gave me a good laugh. Man, we all have done this and are doing this still to varying degrees. I myself am often grateful for someone wracking me (sometimes only after the fact of course). I think you're doing quite amazing though. I often look back on things I've said and find it cringeworthy later or after years. I think you had an big and important insight into how meaning is a construction, which can then lead to swinging too much to the opposite direction, denying the other perspective. However balance would have it that over time also a more relative perspective gets reincluded. One would be conscious of and acknowledge each level or aspect imo for a good balance. A nice phrase from Bashar is 'life is not this or that, but this AND that'.

@LfcCharlie4 just in addition to something you discussed with others. To me it seems most people only base enlightenment on being awake through the crown chakra. Then @Leo Gura talks about awakening to Love lately too, okay, isn't that just also including the heart chakra? There are many chakras in the body, so one can become awake to many aspects. Perhaps with 5 meo you can only effectively open the crown, but maybe it's useless for opening the many other chakras, maybe this is the imbalance that people see in Leo.

lol Leo's comment made me laugh

I've been listening quite a bit to channeled information lately, and found 'The Wonders' now. They have a bunch of Youtube videos, but there is also this page with podcasts audio, which seems all free as far I can tell: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-wonders-hour/id163344078?mt=2 Seems to me quite an amazing resource For an introduction from the Wonders themselves, you can watch the first podcast ('The First Show') from 42:20 onwards

For me the 5 element practise was less effective than for bobby, but I still do it and I feel it's quite powerful too. These mantras are an easy way to pull nice energy into you. The idea is that you get initiated into this practise first, as I have, but some people do it without and still experience good stuff

@Nahm 20 years, ah okay I thought you just had done it some years. Thanks!

@Salvijus Thanks for that message, interesting. Maybe I'll stop with the psychedelics. @Matteo Nice share, thank you! :-) I want to share a couple of things, as I can relate quite a bit with your story. I have similar concerns and doubts as you with psychedelics, also have done RASA and have been struggling or doubting as to what path I should follow too. as for RASA I had maybe 2/3 'official' RASA sessions, and watched a bunch of recorded RASA sessions. Someone who gave RASA, and became my friend for a while, wanted to have a spontaneous video chat with me. He wanted to explain the stuff like 'there is no person, there is only this', etc. I already knew there was no person, but okay. At some point he said something like 'you already know there is no person? Oh that's like LOC 1000. You know what, close your eyes and let go of everything, stop the seeking', I gave it a go and tried releasing everything, I released something perhaps because I had a tear. Not a biggy. He said, 'yea you're probably 1000 now, let me check' he checked and said that I was at 1000. He send my picture to Ramaji or Ananda to have them double check and they also said I was at 1000. I didn't feel any different and doubted very much if he wasn't just trying to convince himself and me. Anyway, nothing changed in the meanwhile (that I feel I should attribute to RASA) lol. Not sure what to think of RASA, maybe there is something to it, but I think they might make it out to be more then it is. As to pshychedelics. I love Bashar and tried finding some videos of him where he talks about pshychedelics. I found some videos where he mentions something, but not in fullness. Could you share what you found of him talking about it? Also, did Sadhguru really say that he would have done it himself if he thought it was a viable path? I read a book on it which also talked about psychedelics a bit, read it here : I can relate to practices not seeming to do much, while psychedelics give palpable transformation. However, I've been doing Shambavi Mahamudra and a 5 element cleansing practiced based on mantras (https://learn.divinelineage.org/) now for like 4 months and I've noticed that I have been looking for perception shifts to tell if things are changing. However, if I focus on my subtle energy state, I do notice quite some difference. If I close my eyes the energystate I'm in is actually quite amazing. It seems that these practices work on a subtler level and you might not notice it that fast. It takes time for it to get going and then after a while you might notice that actually quite some change has seemed to be sneaking in. and in all I'm quite doubtful about the psychedelic path, maybe they (as you can read from the part of the book I shared with you above) will mess with your nervous system and you slowly become more insensitive to life. Also, since you seem to know about Bashar, based on your frustration I don't get the impression you've been following his 'method' of following your passion, or just doing what attracts you the most in every moment? Much love,

@Nahm just read just story and felt I got some value from it. Thank you for sharing. I'm wondering how long you meditated before the awakenings started, could you say?:)

@Carl-Richard Or phrased differently, will you ever stop putting your trust in that you can't trust yourself?