VeganAwake

Nobody becomes enlightened. Enlightenment is the collapsing of the apparent separate individual thus making separation or duality an impossibility... as in it actually never happened. "The separation never occurred" -- A Course in Miracles

And believing it's something that needs to be killed perpetuates it's existence.. Simply recognize its unreality.

yes and some times shaking needs to occur or what appears as childlike behavior that hurts feelings. It reminds me of a story when papaji shook gangaji telling her to stop repeatedly. She instantly recognized it was her own mind causing the issues.

Every song is it and not it simultaneously = 0

There is no observer just observation. It's real and unreal... Real because it's what apparently happens.. Unreal because it's empty there's nothing behind it.. nothing manifesting

Yes it's not a one-size-fits-all type of deal. STOP seeking outside of yourself and turn Within. What is 'I'... Where is 'I' located in the body... What does 'I' consist of... ❤

Yes absolutely it doesn't matter at all.

Yes so true.. it is what it is ,what can be done, and who could do it. ?

@cnfvm ❤ you are graduated why are you here. Go live life ❤

There may be the experience there that there's someone here with wisdom.....DONT BELIEVE IT!!

In fact once I make sure my parents are being responsible by paying all my bills I'm off to puffy puff land... Puff where you at... here I come you crazy Dragon you

Yeah bro I'm dancing on a rainbow eating pink cotton candy can't wait to go ride my unicorn and then off to Puff the Magic Dragon Land... So much light

It's not a comparison or equation that can be figured out by the mind. when you die and become zero unconditional love is the consequence. Simultaneously it's recognized that zero was always the case.

@Gesundheit

Gotcha...yeah I know what your sayin.. Only when the separate knower fish dies, is it recognized it was never real. And then becomes the unknowable.

Me Leo and Mu attempting to describe that love is more than just a feeling.

Yes physical and psychological suffering. If you stub your toe on a rock, you feel physical pain and slowly as the pain decreases you typically would forget all about it. But now let's say you break your leg and can't work for 4 months... this starts turning into psychological suffering because you now become worried about being able to support the family, and how is this new limp in my right leg going to effect my life...etc. Your boss tells you that you're not working hard enough. You tell her okay I will try to work harder. You think about this all day and dwell on it at home and the next day and the next day( psychological suffering) Now this psychological suffering can lead to physical consequences such as accumulation of stress build-up or constant worry, weight gain/loss, gray/loss of hair, fatigue etc. So it's recognized that both physical and psychological pain can lead to prolonged suffering. But who is actually suffering where is that one. See if you can find him or her ❤

Plenty of good information here thought it was worth a share.

I assume what you're referring to is they seem to cause a physical emotion in the body... which is correct but the feeler of emotions is Maya illusion of the self. this is pointing to the realization that there was never a separate self inside any body ever.... making dualism an impossibility or a misunderstanding at best. ❤