VeganAwake

It's freedom from the conditioned beliefs that liberation has framework or a point. Freedom to sit around or involved action. How could there be anything out of flux with reality? Whatever is happening is reality which includes sitting around eating cookies or going out and helping society. ❤

Then that's what's being experienced as a test there. Those kinds of conditioned concepts and or qualities have nothing to do with the freedom I'm talking about. Liberation from concepts and beliefs! ❤

Yep, there's no getting outside of reality to point at it because it's everything including the experience of being separate from it, pointing it out and describing what it is. This is already non-dual prior to labeling or grasping it as such! ❤

Who or what believes it's important to contemplate? Is there a real ME actually contemplating? Can the contemplater be located?

Here it's not something that requires much thought. When someone needs something that I can provide within reason, it's just natural to help. Feels instinctual. I don't consider anything to be important because that insinuates there is a goal or purpose to existence. Meaning, purpose and value are just concepts within the dream story of "I". ❤

@Someone here ❤ Maybe take a little spiritual break and just let things unfold. The illusory seeker is relentless and can sometimes exhaust the body physically and mentally.

It's not inevitable.... it's already the case....it's already what's happening. That's the cosmic joke! It's so already in your face, that it seems hidden! ❤

It's the only show in town! ❤

Loved the simplicity of the story...

Can you imagine having to wash your laundry in a river and working all day just for one potato and some rice. Actually this sounds kind of relaxing.... ❤

Unconditional love is what's being longed for. It's what's left when the egos conditional concepts & expectations of love die. And simultaneously it's an understanding of The Human Condition...... we think we are vulnerable separate individuals who need to defend ourselves. And there is nothing right or wrong with experiencing separation & defending it..... it's just what's apparently happening!! ❤

Can't 'you' see it's the ego that's trying to awaken more. It's never satisfied because it's the very experience of separation or incompleteness. Awakening is the recognition that this desperate seeker called ME is an illusion. It's just boundless infinite energy experiencing a misunderstanding of separation or lack. "The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles ❤

Real & unreal Is & isn't This & that Things can seem to be completely real and simultaneously be recognized as completely unreal. The personalized story of ME seems totally important and convincingly real. Awakening is the realization that this separate ME character within the body desperately seeking a better experience in the future is fullness experiencing lack or completeness experiencing incompleteness. Infinite experiencing finite. Not an identification AS the infinite, it's a recognition that the infinite was all there ever was. There never was a finite individual in which even could become infinite. Freedom for no one! ❤

There's just whatever seems to be happening, that's easy enough right? It doesn't matter what it's called. It's THIS!! ❤

The so-called neo-advaita message isn't meant to be useful, it simply attempts to illuminate the futility or ridiculous idea of an illusory individual attempting to attain or become enlightened. An illusion never finds what it's looking for because IT'S the very dualism from which IT'S trying to escape. ❤

The bodies can talk to each other back and forth no problem. The illusion is the experience that there is a real YOU over there in that body and a real ME over here in this body.(Duality) The bodies are completely empty, there isn't a real living individual inside of them or anywhere for that matter. (Nonduality) ❤

I get what you're saying.....we're just not talking about the same thing. Enlightenment is the end of knowing because it's the end of that which believes it can know. When its clearly recognized the self is unreal, there's no one left to claim identification as this or that. No one left to get convinced that they are actually something else. Seeking & identification are both the game of self/ego. ❤

When suffering is really bad people hear what they want to hear; interpret how they want to interpret. So much possiblity for misunderstanding!

There isn't a real you that needs to contemplate anything. The relentless feeling that something needs to be found or attained stems from an illusory experience of separation.... When it's clearly recognized there isn't a you in the body...BAM Enlightenment, Freedom! It's so already that it seems hidden. ❤

Sounds like it's already been recognized there's nothing to find. The individual that attempts to find something particular within everything is an illusion. You are free because there already isn't a real seeker or anything to find. ❤

I'm just not sure how you define suffering. There can definitely still be inconveniences or apparent bad situations like your brother getting hit by a car or getting mugged. But yes like you said there is no longer anyone left to create a dramatic personalized story to dwell upon or resist. Yep, emotions and feelings still arise....it's not like an emotional detachment/denial or something like that. However the emotions do feel impersonal or completely raw and unfiltered. Guilt free. Nothing physically changes in the appearance of reality. But it's recognized nobody is experiencing it. Apparent existence becomes very dream-like or unimportant. The illusion of self doesn't create reality....it seems to distort it, which is why it's referred to as the Dream Story. ❤

Very well said... Yes it's just raw emotions or feeling. The illusion of self which attempts to push away so-called negative emotions for so-called positive one's is seen to be completely unreal. Internal conflict is over because there is no longer anyone left that prefers a certain emotion over another. There is no one left to say "yay I am enlightened and this is incredible". There does seem to be an incredible sense of freedom from the needy self which attempts to control its apparent reality. ❤

I get what you're saying. That's the radical thing about Awakening, it kind of throws out the baby with the bathwater. It's recognized there never was an unhappy or suffering individual in the first place.... it was an illusion or misunderstanding. ❤

Bodies can communicate but there isn't a user or doer inside of them. Similar to wolves howling or birds chirping. ❤