VeganAwake

It sounded like God = Suffering and Misery for you. The attachment or belief that something needs to be a certain way is what can cause suffering. You are correct life doesn't care what you want... do you want to go with the current or against it. I assure you life doesn't care either way. What's really trippy is to recognize that even against the current, is still going with the current. You simply can't be outside of what's happening might as well accept it or not hehe...?

"A man without a beard and moustache is like a woman with a moustache and beard" - OSHO

The belief that there's an entity called God behind all of this...hmmm interesting ?

No need to identify with it... So there's a conditioned human body reacting to life... that's all that's going on... it's what's happening. See there isn't a YOU there, it just seems that way. Maintain as the witness like Eckhart Tolle talks about.... Home is when it's recognized nothing needs to happen Perfection is at hand❤

In the US military LOA stands for letter of appreciation. Maybe sit down and write a letter of all the things you appreciate in life. ?

Paradox is a hell of a drug ?

Agreed...

Haha I know what you mean after a certain point there's nothing left to talk about it's almost like we have to go unconscious and pretend like there's really something important to talk about ?

I know what you're saying... To me God is boundless Infinite Energy with no Rhyme or Reason no meaning or purpose whatsoever just pure free Boundless Energy form and formlessness everything and nothing real and unreal.

Wait is this shity come back day...jk

Well according to that theory the Materialist Paradigm would be God as well... so what is there to break out of? Hmmm ?

Yes you would feel the pain whether you believe you are God imagining it or an evolved great ape ancestor from The Big Bang.

Geez that was a shity come back... I was trying to get you to explain your void reality a little better ?

Would you be willing to stab yourself in the hand right now with a knife... I wonder if it would still seem like smoke and mirrors?

Yes absolutely you're onto something now... keep exploring this, maybe something will happen maybe not... either way you're always perfect whole and complete and that's always been the case ?

Well the 'I' is the illusion... And the 'I' that thinks it needs to get clear about what the 'I' is, is that same illusion. Recognize the 'I' is just a compilation of beliefs perceptions ideas thoughts and labels you have allowed yourself to believe since a young age. When this becomes recognized there can be an energetic shift and the 'I' can fall away and its energy seems to fall back into the infinite energy source.

Hehe that's so true...

There's still a human body here that can hear,speak,feel,taste etc... Nothing in that regard changes... The sensations are no longer owned by anyone(they never were, they just felt like they were)... they are just happening. Personalization is removed from the picture.

There is a conditioned human body that will turn its head if it's name is called or jump out of the way of a train to survive. It's basically running on conditioned autopilot. The 'I' illusion comes in after the fact and claims that it's doing it, and that its the human body itself. But it's not just the human body, it's the most important human body that ever existed. It's all about me me me I I I. And then of course this 'I' energy feels separate and lacking and goes on a quest to find completion of itself or Liberation from the constant feelings of lack. The problem is the separation never occurred and it's all just an Illusion of separation... so the 'I' energy is seeking something that it will never find because it was never separate to begin with. The Big Cosmic joke...(hey everyone let's go on an exciting never-ending quest to find something that was never missing yay) When Maya the illusion of self is completely seen through it's almost laughable and I've heard some people do laugh for quite a while. ?

@Barna I like it...thanks for sharing ?

Yes exactly you got it.... here's a quick video by one of my favorite plant-based doctors describing it. That's cool you're reading how not to die it's a great book... If you haven't already ...I also recommend "The healthiest diet on the planet" by Dr. John McDougall The China Study by Dr. T Colin Campbell The cheese Trap by Dr.Neal Bernard Also if you get a chance to check out the movie 'Food Choices' it used to be on Netflix but I believe they removed it. ? Take care my friend good stuff!

Yes I agree he is a great teacher and explains things very well. I used to believe it was important that I helped people wake up... like it was the destiny of the human race to all become awakened. I no longer hold these beliefs... if Awakening occurs it occurs if it doesn't it doesn't either way it does not matter whatsoever, there's no meaning purpose or value in it at all, but simultaneously if someone wants to help make the world a better place or help awaken people that's what is happening...why not. The neo-advaitist's as everyone else is calling them, are saying that you cannot awaken the separate individual because the separate individual is an illusion and any attempt to awaken it is futile and ridiculous. Awakening is the disidentification with the illusion. In my experience once I turned my seeking energy 180 degrees within I recognized the ME that I thought I was was the illusion itself. When this energy and illusion fell away, it was simultaneously recognized it never existed, the line dividing duality and non-duality, subject and object was completely recognized to have been simply an illusion all along. The oneness that's always been the case was clearly revealed. "The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles Have a good day my friend take care talk to you soon ?

Hehe...nice. In your opinion is it referring to staying in the present moment or does it mean this life is all there is, or both? And could I ask what led to that belief?